On August 09 2013 22:58 iamperfection wrote: why are you busy vivax?
I just came to my hometown in Austria from Rome (2 days ago) after some gipsies stole my wallet in the metro the day of departure, now I had to replace all the cards I had in it, driver licence mainly. My passport runs out the 19th of August and I need to renew it, I also need to deliver some shit for a transfer to uni here, I'm seeing all my old friends again and one of them has birthday today.Tomorrow and the day after we'll probably go camping if the weather allows it.
On August 09 2013 22:58 iamperfection wrote: why are you busy vivax?
I just came to my hometown in Austria from Rome (2 days ago) after some gipsies stole my wallet in the metro the day of departure, now I had to replace all the cards I had in it, driver licence mainly. My passport runs out the 19th of August and I need to renew it, I also need to deliver some shit for a transfer to uni here, I'm seeing all my old friends again and one of them has birthday today.Tomorrow and the day after we'll probably go camping if the weather allows it.
On August 09 2013 22:30 Acrofales wrote: Additionally, I am concerned about Vivax and Yamato's lack of presence in this hallway. These are reknowned knights from whom I had high expectations and their absense is troubling. Yamato has been around, but got into that useless fight with Oats. While that seemed uncharacteristic for a pretender, his subsequent disappearance has me doubting that assessment. Vivax has not contributed much at all. Of these two, I'd prefer to see Vivax on the chopping block.
Are you scum Acro? How did yamato contribute more than me in any way? He only got into a shit fight with Oats and disappeared.
Question for you: Can you tell me about a single read/suspect from yamato you know about?
What on earth about "but he looks scummier than me" is supposed to convince me that you are a loyalist?
I discussed my initial problems with you in an earlier speech. Look it up if you like. Your response was neither here nor there. That's where we are right now. Show loyalty to the realm and I will reconsider.
Jokes aside, gut says town, but forgetting about the people you wanna lynch didn't impress me.
Reminds me of johhnywup. His answers to my enquiry seemed okayish (except that I didn't see his "sort-of" reads he talked about, but when the pressure was off he made a nice summary list of houses and fucked off without scumhunting. I'd put him on the hitlist for now.
On August 09 2013 23:29 Vivax wrote: Jokes aside, gut says town, but forgetting about the people you wanna lynch didn't impress me.
Reminds me of johhnywup. His answers to my enquiry seemed okayish (except that I didn't see his "sort-of" reads he talked about, but when the pressure was off he made a nice summary list of houses and fucked off without scumhunting. I'd put him on the hitlist for now.
On August 09 2013 23:23 Xatalos wrote: Just a notice that I'll be relying on my phone (and its battery) for about 2 days so my activity will drop a bit during this time.
s0Lstice, would you act like you did during N0 again in retrospect? Who do you think should be Lord at N1 in your House?
If there is one takeaway from my explanation that you should be getting, it's that I think I'm in the right here. Yes, I would do the same thing again despite this retarded flack I'm getting.
Wait and see who I vote N1. This information will be made known to you later. For now, know that I have a pretty good idea of who I'm voting.
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote: @ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.
Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.
Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.
On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote: Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.
I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.
koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.
1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.
Here is my first real scumread.
This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative.
Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion.
I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two.
I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them.
What's the difference between a lurker/inactive and Oats at this point?
Do you want to lynch Oats cause he's a lurker? What do you think of his exchange with yammo?
I want to lynch Oats because he is clearly not playing like he should/can play. I don't understand why he is considered town in this game while he is at best a lurker. Yamato was right, Oats was wrong. Yamato had to endure Oats his terrible questions just like me. But Yamato is fitting the same profile as Oats at this point, however, people think Oats is town and Yamato is scum. Why is that? They interacted with each other in the first 6 hours of this game and then disappeared.
But I don't want to live in the past alone. I want to add that in my eyes s0lstice is town and I do not see a reason why he is scum except for not picking DI. The only small thing that is strange is that he ran so convincingly for Lord and is now being pretty afk. DI seems to be town as well. I was not aware of his town meta and I thought that DI trolling meant DI=scum. Him wanting to be Lord to kill Kush = Trolling.
I don't have scumreads yet on any of the big posters in this game and killing of people that don't participate in the game is probably a good idea. Clarity is a bit on my radar but that is based on associations and being a vassal of iamp but that's it.
Sharrant posted zero but is active in PMs? Anyone who's in pm contact with him, please post a read immediately and everything he's done so far that's worth of notice. Sharrant is usually a very active and talkative player and if he didn't contribute anything meaningful yet he should be killed.
On August 10 2013 00:25 Vivax wrote: Sharrant posted zero but is active in PMs? Anyone who's in pm contact with him, please post a read immediately and everything he's done so far that's worth of notice. Sharrant is usually a very active and talkative player and if he didn't contribute anything meaningful yet he should be killed.
from what i understand he was active with acro but has dropped off recently
Here's what I told Lord Martell in my most recent raven:
At Highgarden, I received two ravens from Ser Sharrant, but he seemed responsive and they had interesting content. He seemed to be participating in the game, thinking about things and even trying to uncover other kinsmen's loyalties. He was also exchanging missives with another vassal, Ser Wup, as well.
Since moving to King's Landing I have sent him a number of ravens urging him to participate in the public debate, as well as asking for his opinion regarding my vote and what to do with the House's powers. Initially he replied. That was when we were talking about the magic that we control. Since then, he has been silent. Ser Wup has also not heard from him since the start of the day. I fear his keep may have been overrun by Greyjoy longships, or perhaps he has joined the pretenders himself.
The most interesting thing he sent to me was a brief message stating he had conclusive evidence that kushm4sta is a loyalist. However, he never sent the evidence.
On August 10 2013 00:44 Acrofales wrote: Here's what I told Lord Martell in my most recent raven:
At Highgarden, I received two ravens from Ser Sharrant, but he seemed responsive and they had interesting content. He seemed to be participating in the game, thinking about things and even trying to uncover other kinsmen's loyalties. He was also exchanging missives with another vassal, Ser Wup, as well.
Since moving to King's Landing I have sent him a number of ravens urging him to participate in the public debate, as well as asking for his opinion regarding my vote and what to do with the House's powers. Initially he replied. That was when we were talking about the magic that we control. Since then, he has been silent. Ser Wup has also not heard from him since the start of the day. I fear his keep may have been overrun by Greyjoy longships, or perhaps he has joined the pretenders himself.
The most interesting thing he sent to me was a brief message stating he had conclusive evidence that kushm4sta is a loyalist. However, he never sent the evidence.
did he give indication at anytime a reason for not posting in the thread?
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote: @ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.
Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.
Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.
On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote: Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.
I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.
koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.
1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.
Here is my first real scumread.
This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative.
Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion.
I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two.
I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them.
What's the difference between a lurker/inactive and Oats at this point?
Do you want to lynch Oats cause he's a lurker? What do you think of his exchange with yammo?
I want to lynch Oats because he is clearly not playing like he should/can play. I don't understand why he is considered town in this game while he is at best a lurker. Yamato was right, Oats was wrong. Yamato had to endure Oats his terrible questions just like me. But Yamato is fitting the same profile as Oats at this point, however, people think Oats is town and Yamato is scum. Why is that? They interacted with each other in the first 6 hours of this game and then disappeared.
But I don't want to live in the past alone. I want to add that in my eyes s0lstice is town and I do not see a reason why he is scum except for not picking DI. The only small thing that is strange is that he ran so convincingly for Lord and is now being pretty afk. DI seems to be town as well. I was not aware of his town meta and I thought that DI trolling meant DI=scum. Him wanting to be Lord to kill Kush = Trolling.
I don't have scumreads yet on any of the big posters in this game and killing of people that don't participate in the game is probably a good idea. Clarity is a bit on my radar but that is based on associations and being a vassal of iamp but that's it.
I have no idea what the bolded means.
im pretty sure he is making an association because you agreed with some of things i said. He is bad and needs to explain why he would be suspicious of either me or you at this point.
On August 10 2013 00:44 Acrofales wrote: Here's what I told Lord Martell in my most recent raven:
At Highgarden, I received two ravens from Ser Sharrant, but he seemed responsive and they had interesting content. He seemed to be participating in the game, thinking about things and even trying to uncover other kinsmen's loyalties. He was also exchanging missives with another vassal, Ser Wup, as well.
Since moving to King's Landing I have sent him a number of ravens urging him to participate in the public debate, as well as asking for his opinion regarding my vote and what to do with the House's powers. Initially he replied. That was when we were talking about the magic that we control. Since then, he has been silent. Ser Wup has also not heard from him since the start of the day. I fear his keep may have been overrun by Greyjoy longships, or perhaps he has joined the pretenders himself.
The most interesting thing he sent to me was a brief message stating he had conclusive evidence that kushm4sta is a loyalist. However, he never sent the evidence.
did he give indication at anytime a reason for not posting in the thread?
No, nor would I have accepted that as anything but a flimsy excuse. Given the prolonged time without receiving a raven, I believe he may have been forced to flee his keep without ravens or any other method of getting in touch with any of us.
Other lordlings are of higher concern to me, but I understand that those of you who have not been in touch with him at all have your concerns about my kinsman's behaviour.
In PMs, iamp has been trying to convince me that Sharrant should be the Lord kp target tonight. It is my opinion that a player with zero posts should be handled by the hosts, whether it be replacement or modkill. I do not believe shooting in the dark is the best choice of kp. If you have decided that shooting randomly is the best use of kp, then you shouldn't have a kp.
iamp is arguing that Sharrant is scummy for choosing not to post in the thread. In my experience, I've never a scum player willingly not post in the thread for an entire cycle because they think they can get away with it. Scum or town, there is always an excuse, whether it be personal issues or not caring about the game.
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote: @ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.
Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.
Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.
On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote: Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.
I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.
koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.
Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.
1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.
Here is my first real scumread.
This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative.
Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion.
I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two.
I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them.
What's the difference between a lurker/inactive and Oats at this point?
Do you want to lynch Oats cause he's a lurker? What do you think of his exchange with yammo?
I want to lynch Oats because he is clearly not playing like he should/can play. I don't understand why he is considered town in this game while he is at best a lurker. Yamato was right, Oats was wrong. Yamato had to endure Oats his terrible questions just like me. But Yamato is fitting the same profile as Oats at this point, however, people think Oats is town and Yamato is scum. Why is that? They interacted with each other in the first 6 hours of this game and then disappeared.
But I don't want to live in the past alone. I want to add that in my eyes s0lstice is town and I do not see a reason why he is scum except for not picking DI. The only small thing that is strange is that he ran so convincingly for Lord and is now being pretty afk. DI seems to be town as well. I was not aware of his town meta and I thought that DI trolling meant DI=scum. Him wanting to be Lord to kill Kush = Trolling.
I don't have scumreads yet on any of the big posters in this game and killing of people that don't participate in the game is probably a good idea. Clarity is a bit on my radar but that is based on associations and being a vassal of iamp but that's it.
I have no idea what the bolded means.
I just reread your page 4 and I was wrong. I thought that you were mimicking iamp a bit but doesn't seem like it anymore. Also I just felt like you were defending Oats without reason but it seems that everybody thinks Oats is town. iamp/s0l/you spring to mind.
I was briefly around yesterday, so I concentrated on PMs with Acro while I was reading the thread. I have not PM'ed anyone in quite some time as I have not been around. I should be here on and off up until the deadline.
There's been some talk of killing Kush. Kush and I have talked very little, but his attitude struck me as matching his town meta to a T. Obviously I can't quote the pm, but he openly admitted to being completely clueless about how teh game is operating/what had happened within our house during n0, while still having a big attitude about it.
I'm conflicted on this, because on one hand in smurf I could easily tell he was town, and pretty much everyone else could. But on the other hand he still got mislynched at LyLo and did not contribue meaningfully to the game.
I don't want him alive at LyLo again, but he is very likely town. I've been playing with Kush since my first game on TL, and I think I've gotten him right about 80% of the time. That said, I understand and even sympathize with wanting to kill him at this point. But I personally can't do so because I am relatively sure he's town, and town is town regardless of whether they're playing poorly or not. The only thing giving me any doubt is this: Does anyone know if Kush uses the term 'fag' or 'fags' at all?
I'm not confident enough to name anyone as scum until I've read the thread a few more times. Most of the big incidents in the thread are cookie cutter from other games I've played. Rayne twisting words around was exactly what he did to me until we both figured each other out as town in the last game we played. Oatsmaster and Yamato's fight earlier was also cookie cutter from the last game I was in with them, however a few things stuck out to me as different about both of them in this case. I will be starting to read through their exchange again. Does anyone else have specific things they think I should read or that they want opinions on?
Hey guys On phone today so I'll be less active in pms than I was for the past several days.
I want my house to pm me though and explain who they want me to vote for and why.
Currently I'm not liking clarity as a lynch target anymore. I also don't want to lynch oatsmaster. It looks like the sol case is winding down a bit but I will retread those parts before the lynch.
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