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On August 08 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.
I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town. How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town? I dont understand this Ryan.
Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to:
1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not.
2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere.
Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence.
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On August 08 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.
I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town. How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town? I dont understand this Ryan. Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to: 1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not. 2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere. Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence.
So you wanna discuss townreads because?
Also, let me deal with my townreads being called scum. They arent at the moment so I dont see why we need to waste our time.
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On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord.
I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol.
The exchange you are mentioning went:
SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing)
DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me)
DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda
SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that?
-THE END-
Can anybody see a read in that?
I don't.
Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case.
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tl;dr: koshi is lying about me lying gg scum
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On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case.
You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well.
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On August 08 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:25 iamperfection wrote:On August 08 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
so im confused where did he specifically lie? I did share my thought about S0lstice, the only difference with Chrom is that I backed S0lstice up and put suspicion back on DI which is what DI is not liking about me and why Chrom is town & Lord. Dandel seems to have made quite the spotlight on himself what do you think of that? I always answered his questions and made my thoughts clear.
also a lie ^
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On August 08 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case. You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well.
That one?
SexyDandel: koshi es scum
DirtyPeasant: do you actually think he's scum?
SexyDandel: dunno
-THE END-
Read is where exactly?
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On August 08 2013 23:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 08 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.
I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town. How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town? I dont understand this Ryan. Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to: 1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not. 2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere. Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence. So you wanna discuss townreads because? Also, let me deal with my townreads being called scum. They arent at the moment so I dont see why we need to waste our time.
I don´t think this is the right way to think about it. The game does not work in the way that i say "X is town" and when people ask me "why" i say "i don´t wanna discuss my townreads" and everyone should take me at face value.
But you are right, the discussion is going nowhere as we cleraly have different opinion here.
Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu?
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On August 08 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:25 iamperfection wrote:On August 08 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
so im confused where did he specifically lie? I did share my thought about S0lstice, the only difference with Chrom is that I backed S0lstice up and put suspicion back on DI which is what DI is not liking about me and why Chrom is town & Lord. Dandel seems to have made quite the spotlight on himself what do you think of that? Him putting the spotlight on himself is exactly what he did in NWM and he got himself almost lynched for it., only because his scumbuddies didn't buss him after all. This time he is trying to get me lynched instead of himself. But being in the spotlight seem to be a normal thing for DI so I don't think anything of that.
holy shit rarely have i seen something this wrong
the last time was when I read sol saying he was a better town player than me.
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On August 08 2013 23:41 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case. You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well. That one? SexyDandel: koshi es scum DirtyPeasant: do you actually think he's scum? SexyDandel: dunno -THE END- Read is where exactly?
note how he didn't actually ask for reasons (he never did), he just asked if i was serious.
town wants to know reasons, scum would only want to make use of the level of seriousness (which he tried to do in his quest for lordship that failed so throughly)
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Solstice and Chromatically, could you comment on this DI/Koshi thingy? Which side of this do yout interactions with them support? Or is it something else?
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DI w.e man, if you want to persue me you are going to lynch town. I might be wrong about some things but from the PMs you sent me I was never going to elect you Lord. Well, I am not going to ever elect you now obviously.
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On August 08 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:37 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 08 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:One thing that caught my eye was the Oats / yamato show. Oatsmaster, i think your argument about not revealing your house members is bad and i don´t see a reason for you to call yamato out on it. It can easily be explained why revealing your house members and talking about them is beneficial for town. I´ll use your house as an example; You say you have townreads on all the dudes in your house. You are not willing to reveal them. What gives? Do you expect us all to take that as face value? The game has been going on for another 24 hours, and the only way to justify your reads from N0 is to talk about the reasons behind them. You can´t just come in and say "my house is cool, all town", because it stinks. Maybe you are right, but you can´t convince us of you being right with that. A good way for 1 or more mafians to perfectly hide is JUST the behaviour you are showing us.
I dont understand this part. Im not trying to convince you that specific people are town. How can mafian's be found out if I claim the people in my house and the fact that I think they are all town? I dont understand this Ryan. Because we canthen talk about your interaction with them, which will lead to: 1) Other opinions of if you all are town or not. 2) If we come to conclusion you are most likely all town, we have by process of elimination eliminated 4 suspects -> much higher chance of scum being elsewhere. Now you saying "they´re all town" leads us nowhere. Not in finding mafia and not in proving anyone´s innocence. So you wanna discuss townreads because? Also, let me deal with my townreads being called scum. They arent at the moment so I dont see why we need to waste our time. I don´t think this is the right way to think about it. The game does not work in the way that i say "X is town" and when people ask me "why" i say "i don´t wanna discuss my townreads" and everyone should take me at face value. But you are right, the discussion is going nowhere as we cleraly have different opinion here. Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu?
Dude, you arent thinking the right way about it. Im saying that 3 our of our list in the game is town. Thats it. That shouldnt do anything to help you or hurt you from finding scum.
I think koshi and Johnnywup top candidates for reasons already expressed by both dandel and myself. Yeah Onegu really needs to explain that bit. First giving out info is bad, then townread.
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On August 08 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu?
I think your post on Onegu was a really weak way to enter the thread.
On August 08 2013 23:46 Koshi wrote:
DI w.e man, if you want to persue me you are going to lynch town. I might be wrong about some things but from the PMs you sent me I was never going to elect you Lord. Well, I am not going to ever elect you now obviously.
Don't post like this. It only gets you lynched. What were some things you were wrong about?
On August 08 2013 23:44 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case. You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well. That one? SexyDandel: koshi es scum DirtyPeasant: do you actually think he's scum? SexyDandel: dunno -THE END- Read is where exactly? note how he didn't actually ask for reasons (he never did), he just asked if i was serious. town wants to know reasons, scum would only want to make use of the level of seriousness (which he tried to do in his quest for lordship that failed so throughly)
You yourself said he asked why in a post earlier. Is this untrue?
What did sol lie about? Why did you think so strongly that he was scum?
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On August 08 2013 23:50 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:44 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:41 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case. You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well. That one? SexyDandel: koshi es scum DirtyPeasant: do you actually think he's scum? SexyDandel: dunno -THE END- Read is where exactly? note how he didn't actually ask for reasons (he never did), he just asked if i was serious. town wants to know reasons, scum would only want to make use of the level of seriousness (which he tried to do in his quest for lordship that failed so throughly) You yourself said he asked why in a post earlier. Is this untrue? What did sol lie about? Why did you think so strongly that he was scum?
wtf is it with you and sol
I'm tunneling koshi here.
I didn't "strongly" think sol was scum, I only phrased it as such to get reads on the other two. Well, actually just towards Chrom, @koshi i actually have said "retard or scum" which is something else entirely.
Again, why do you have such a boner for sol?
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On August 08 2013 23:50 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats who´s scum? What do you think about what i wrote on Onegu? I think your post on Onegu was a really weak way to enter the thread.
uh what was weak about it?
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yamato when you get a chance can you break down how your election went down I'm a little confused.
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