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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 20 2013 07:41 GMT
#4421
Just read scum pm
Great play and deserves win
I'm not sure if town would have lynched scum without the sharrant yamato check.

Excellent thread awareness. And the section where koshi was riding out the fakeclaim was hillarious.
Kitamins big play was so damn close hahah. Big balls koshi.

Rayn for scum mvp though. Excellent abuse of an apaethetic town. Well done
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 07:42 GMT
#4422
On August 20 2013 15:30 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 15:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 14:49 Ace wrote:
On August 20 2013 14:46 Mocsta wrote:
On August 20 2013 14:43 Ace wrote:
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.

Agree.

Too focused on actions rather than motive. Ohh well u get that most games I suppose.


One of the days I came back to tread the thread and saw some morons saying I was being anti-town or something because I wouldn't respond to every little thing going on. Of course the thread was LITTERED with so much useless junk and "Player X's fantastic Town Read #4!" that shit didn't get done. I think its far more anti-town when people dont know how to shut the fuck up and keep posting Town reads every time they get a chance. So fucking dumb.

nah Ace I thought you were scum because you were so useless man.
Be less useless next time?


I was spending so much time reading and there was nothing worth talking about since yamato was going to be lynched. I screwed up and got myself modkilled before I got to make a real contribution.

And i got accused of "not posting anything when there was important things going on". I had no idea what to say, other than "lol?" ^_^
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 20 2013 07:42 GMT
#4423
Man what a bad game for me

Feels so good to be back, though!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 20 2013 07:44 GMT
#4424
And yeah I totally forgot to send in my night KP n2 in spite of the fact that I voted... and then I shot Dandel Ion n3...

...
...
...

Damn I'm bad. I hate playing as town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 07:44 GMT
#4425
The Koshi thing was hilarious. We were so angry at him with Acro. :D
He is the best conspiracy theorist ever. haha.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 20 2013 07:46 GMT
#4426
On August 20 2013 16:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The Koshi thing was hilarious. We were so angry at him with Acro. :D
He is the best conspiracy theorist ever. haha.

I remember reading that and being so tense---"Oh shit are they going to be able to keep him from fakeclaiming WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN AAAAAHH"
Defs a well-played game by all of the scum. Yamato's scumclaiming made me giggle.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 07:46 GMT
#4427
Risen, you were really good in proving your towniness imo. Had i been town i think we would have been really close to destroying the scum team from the beginning. You were really easy to talk to in PM's and while you think way differently than i do i think we would end up in good conclusions.

I don't think you played bad, you just needed some support you didn't have.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 20 2013 07:47 GMT
#4428
I tried getting rayn killed a lot this game. In PMs I kept assuring him I totally wasn't trying to get him killed, but I was :< (I'm pretty sure he saw through me easily)

I didn't even have a strong scum read on him, I just wanted him dead since he could at any time shut down the lord vote and KP. I fuckin hated the lord shit in this game, though. Holy shit limited PM game + overlord mechanic was frustrating.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 20 2013 07:48 GMT
#4429
And yeah through it all Rayn was such a cool bud in PMs. You have no idea how guilty I was feeling lobbying for your demise in PMs and shit... T_T
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 07:51 GMT
#4430
wow, i did think you were trying to keep me alive. :D
good guise! you fooled me at least. ^_^

Also, i did try to play 'til the very end.
0,1% chance of working but i had to try:
+ Show Spoiler +

"Okay, i have been thinking about this and either way, if you are mafia you will probably win. So here it is:

I am Aeron, a Town Jailkeeper. I can jail a person other than me each night. It will roleblock them and heal them up to 4 HP in case they take damage during that night (i asked and it does not work for the previous nights). N1 i jailed Xatalos, for me he was the towniest person out there at that time. N2 i jailed Sharrant. He claimed one shot cop, so i thought he had no more checks. On N3 i jailed Grackaroni because i think he is town and thought he was a person mafia would hit knowing that there is a possible protective role alive.

I voted Onegu because he somehow seemed to know there is a town roleblocker. I thought mafia roleblocked Sharrant aswell on N2 and Onegu fakeclaimed the roleblock to make me claim or/and to cast doubt in town (see the whole fucking discussion on the roleblocks D4).

I talked about this with other lords on D4 (when i voted for Onegu). Dandel called me stupid and said Onegu is town and he never explained that better. Grackaroni never answered me. Acrofales said i was probably right and voted Onegu with me. Then i went to bed.

The game is lost anyways if you are scum, so:
- I have no idea who is mafia. Probably Acrofales (at least if i die tonight), johnnywup, and one of Chromatically/Dandel. Maybe even Sharrant.
- Who should i shoot? Is Acrofales okay?
- I am gonna vote for myself as a lord. I hope you vote for me too. If i die you are the lord and you can lynch Acrofales (as apparently the game is not over yet, and he is confirmed mafia then).
- If you are mafia you won't vote for me anyways so it's whatever."

lol.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 07:53 GMT
#4431
LoL yeah. I just couldnt believe he had my name and wouldnt tell thread or other Lords. If I would have been in a better position I would have claimed JK. Oberyn would never be loyal to me. :p
I had a good night of sleep.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 07:54 GMT
#4432
funny enough that caused me to suspect Risen. He posted he had a case on Rayne in the thread and dropped it out of no where. Then at night I PM'd him to make Rayne lord and he was like no he will stay Lord. I was like o.0?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 07:56 GMT
#4433
Ace what made you suspect me?
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 20 2013 08:04 GMT
#4434
Ahhhhh.... Damn you Koshi This is the second time already that I had a strong townread on you and I was so wrong. I give up, I'll just auto-push you from now on :D

Basically the reasoning was that you were 1) crusading that there was a "mole" in House Lannister (as scum you would know that to be false and you felt very convinced 2) antagonizing me and iamperfection in the thread (in NWM you just pretty much tried to buddy with me and other obvious townies) 3) overall very involved in the discussion whenever around. But of course it was all wrong... Sigh. From now on I won't trust myself regarding Koshi anymore. Well played though.

Chromatically also did an excellent job in PMs with iamperfection and s0Lstice. I went to such trouble to avoid leaks and Chrom knew the most important stuff already..... Rayn and Acro also had a really good (soft?) double bus. I didn't even imagine they could be scum together until the last moments. Vivax and Yamato didn't really do much and gave up extremely easily. Like... Why not even try for a moment? Why instantly suicide? I'd even say that's playing against your win condition BUT there's also the fact that tactically suiciding will cut any possible connections from that point on, so I can accept it as a safe play (if it wasn't just laziness).

I only ever shared information with townies in PMs, so the leaking wasn't my fault really... But yeah. Chrom intercepted well, same with Acro. And Lord KP was used purely to kill townies (I'm majorly to blame for that as well - I pushed that lurkers should be killed above all else, while undermining the importance of shooting scum).

Going to read ObsQT and scumQt next!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 08:06 GMT
#4435
You brought up the PM fiasco which at first made me think you were town because I did mess up. But you kept talking about it and being worried I wasn't PMing you. I dont think anyone should really care that someone isn't PMing them unless it's a clear issue of them hiding info. Besides most people know I rarely PM people in these kinds of games since Townies do dumb things like hide info that needs to be public and trust each other too much in PM land.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 20 2013 08:08 GMT
#4436
On August 20 2013 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Risen, you were really good in proving your towniness imo. Had i been town i think we would have been really close to destroying the scum team from the beginning. You were really easy to talk to in PM's and while you think way differently than i do i think we would end up in good conclusions.

I don't think you played bad, you just needed some support you didn't have.


I disagree heavily. I was slightly leaning town, but Risen was so hard to PM with.... No logic, stupid theories, starting to say I'm 100% scum for nonexistent reasons... Afterwards just silence. Okay, in hindsight, he really did have a townie mindset, just otherwise so horrible to communicate with that it was hard to say for sure.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 08:14:09
August 20 2013 08:13 GMT
#4437
Scum won the game with the frame on Mocsta. People openly doubted that Sharrant was actually cop in the thread after Mocsta got himself modkilled. That's just too damn good for scum.

Hapa was right when he said town had no leaders. After lamp and Kita died, town went down the drain in effective activity.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 20 2013 08:15 GMT
#4438
Also my thoughts about our team:

yamato and vivax: I think you guys should play more carelessly. To me it felt like you were avoiding posting because of fear of getting caught (although you were busy). You both are good players as town but your scumplay is easily detectable because it's so different from your town play. Just post stuff and keep your opinions. Both of you could have easily escaped the lynch (in yamato's case the check) purely by posting more.

Chromatically: You were really good in gathering information and proving your towniness early on. Like, awesome! You have well thought out posts and apparenty you did awesome in PM-land. At some point i felt like your activity dropped significantly. If you can keep that up you're going to do even better. Good job!

Koshi: Fantasticly disruptive dude! ^^ You had some clear shiny posts (for example the gumshoe thing). That's how you get out of bad situations. I think you were a bit unsure of yourself at some points of the game, but you see; Just go ahead and post, make a conspiracy theory and stick with it like you did and see, people think you are town. You did handle situations well when you actually started handling them. You need a bit more confidence in yourself but all in all you are a good disruptive scumplayer!

Acrofales: A guy that i work with very well as mafia. We have a different kind of playstyle and i loved playing scum with him. He was the analytical part (besides Chrom) in our team and handled that part very well. The only thing that i did not like was the buss on me. That could have ended up pretty badly (as we could not "work together" after that). I think you should have dropped it after our "misuderstanding" on D2 as it was clearly a stupid rant. You are also really good in proving your towniness as mafia. A good addition to a scumteam where i am, different "qualities" and easy to work with.

If yamato & vivax were just more active i think we had insanely good team that was a pleasure to work with. Very transparent team with people with different abilities to screw with town. Thank you guys!
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 08:15 GMT
#4439
Btw we didnt think scum would claim JK we thought they would counter claim medic saying I was the person who RB.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 08:17 GMT
#4440
dont fake claim in the future please
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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