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Like Xatalos, i don't know how you can think that way.
If Mocsta has more than 3 HP lynching him is a must. I am pretty sure Acrofales is mafia, he will not shoot Mocsta. Mocsta will not shoot himself. That makes at most 3 KP on him. If you think i am mafia with him, then you must assume i do not shoot him, and Acro is town, that makes 3 KP at most at him. Are you sure of Grackaroni being town?
Worst case scenario is we lynch town, no mafia dies during the night and nobody can tell wtf happened.
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Would fit as Acro is probably scum too. That would explain the non-roleblock.
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On August 18 2013 00:13 Xatalos wrote:
This might have actually been the most pro-town action for him I guess? Saving us some KP and a lynch.
Whatever his alignment is this is ruining the game.
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On August 18 2013 00:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Man, aside from my mini blowup on rayn I was enjoying this game.
Like, I didn't even mind ace being a dumbass as much.
But this just sucked my spirits.
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On August 18 2013 00:20 s0Lstice wrote:Acro can you walk me through your thought process between these two posts? Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 14:45 Acrofales wrote:
Also, I think I'm wrong on Rayn. Mocsta was incriminating him in PM and telling me to push his lynch while calling SnB town.
This game is too easy. Scum surrender pl0x? Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 22:26 Acrofales wrote:On August 17 2013 21:48 Xatalos wrote:On August 17 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 17 2013 21:43 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 17 2013 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 17 2013 21:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
That last line is phrased poorly but you get the idea. No logical sense from rayn. No, read my posts again. You are totally wrong in what you are saying. Again, you called me a liar twice and now wrong. Yet again, no explanation where I was lying and what is wrong. Xata asked you: "if you think onegu is scum that must mean you think clarity is scum, is he?" You answered: "yes, he is" Problem is then you made up weird reasons Yes i thought you were scum at that time. Not for same reasons than Onegu. But the same "reasoning" applied to both Clarity and Onegu equally....... Jesus. This thread has gone to shit... and by the looks of it Rayn is the reason. Why are people even engaging him? He's scum.So is SnB, and so is Mocsta. Their coup failed, because they planned to kill Clarity, but failed: SnB didn't become lord, and town controls 3 votes. I don't give a shit in which order we kill them.
He can't because he is scum.
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Uhh.. Clarity: Johnnywup clearly did not put thought into that list as you yourself pointed out when he posted it. I asked then and i ask again, what is the point of making the list if you don't even do properly? How does that help town and why would you not do it properly?
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Also when Sharrant outed his check on Mocsta i immediately told Grackaroni to not vote for him but instead to talk to him figure out his scumbuddies. He said he was already doing that because he was not 100% sure Mocsta is scum. According to Grack Mocsta was:
1) Curious about Acrofales not questioning him in PM's but instead voting for him (lol, he fucking started posting babyseals, why would you assume someone even wants to talk to you when you do that?)
2) Avoiding his questions about Mocsta's stance on Grackaroni as he was scum for his interactions with kush and he had posted the opposite earlier.
Also immediately after Sharrant posted his check Mocsta PM'd me "Happy now?". How am i supposed to treat that other than a scumclaim?
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Yeah i get that Clarity. I just don't understand as he "clearly had put effort in keeping track of who is in which house" why had he not paid enough attention to know in which house Vivax/Gumshoe was, as it was pretty clear if he had actually paid attention.
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Not really. If he is mafia he might be afraid of him being called out if he mentions Vivax (when he has not been mentioned). If he was town and put effort into figuring out the houses he could place Vivax by process of elimination.
That's my point.
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omfg. Am i really this bad expressing myself or waht the fuck is going on here?
Amongst other reasons i think he is scum because he posted the list without acctually putting a single thought on it. Having the list in the first place as you said is an indication that he has been keeping track of in which house do people belong to. He contradicts this behavior by not actually keeping track of something he finds important (by missing Vivax/gumshoe). Posting or not posting the list has nothing to do with that as it was asked to do.
After that you said him missing Vivax/gumshoe makes him more likely to be town, i disagree and showed you what could the scum motivation mean. Him missing them in itself is not alignment indicative, but when you add that with the fact jwup has been keeping track of this important thing and then not actually doing so it is scummy.
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Because people seem to pay zero attention to why people post what they do rather than what they do post which i think is not the right way to play mafia.
For example Onegu's last post. Hell half of the points don't even say why Grackaroni is scum. What's the point of the post?
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Clarity i do not get your argument.
You are saying johnnywup put effort in the game by keeping notes on who is in what house. That is certainly not true as i have pointed out. Why is this so hard for you?
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Risen has very good points. I just went over Sharrant's posts and they are pretty much full of nothing besides his checks and a couple of town reads. He hasn't really contributed to anything besides that.
If there is s house who has a HP-check left, use it to confirm DI's please.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Sharrant
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On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch?
Clarity, why was Mocsta a likely frame target? And what do you think of Sharrant saying the opposite when he was questioned about why he did check Mocsta?
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On August 19 2013 03:25 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Clarity, why was Mocsta a likely frame target? And what do you think of Sharrant saying the opposite when he was questioned about why he did check Mocsta? I don't recall him explaining his reasoning for why he checked mocsta, but I bet it's about the same as the reasons I call mocsta a likely frame target. Fuck you.
Sharrant said on D3 end his scumreads were Koshi and SnB. Now if Sharrant is town and scum have a framer why the fuck would they frame Mocsta over Koshi/SnB?
You are not even reading the posts you are arguing about and somehow you get to say "fuck you" to me. Now again, why do you think Mocsta was the most likely frame target?
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On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5.
Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that?
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On August 19 2013 03:32 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Clarity, why was Mocsta a likely frame target? And what do you think of Sharrant saying the opposite when he was questioned about why he did check Mocsta? I don't recall him explaining his reasoning for why he checked mocsta, but I bet it's about the same as the reasons I call mocsta a likely frame target. Clarity, why was Mocsta a likely frame target? Fuck you. Sharrant said on D3 end his scumreads were Koshi and SnB. Now if Sharrant is town and scum have a framer why the fuck would they frame Mocsta over Koshi/SnB? You are not even reading the posts you are arguing about and somehow you get to say "fuck you" to me. Now again, why do you think Mocsta was the most likely frame target? Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 02:47 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 02:43 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 02:38 Koshi wrote:
Risen
So the best lynch for today would be Xatalos? Fuck no. Best lynch today is Sharrant. Are you kidding me? Things that still hold true in spite of my massive wrongness 1) Cop-claim asks for advice from unknown on who to check. 2) Cop-claim gets red check on scummy target who the thread is already leaning towards lynching. 3) Cop-claim lives to d4. 4) COP-CLAIM WHO CLAIMED ONE SHOT COP GETS RED CHECK ON NOW CONFIRMED GREEN TARGET. IS THIS FOR REAL. So we have a cop not playing like a cop should followed by a lie in his claim followed by a red check on a green target when there's no way someone frames mocsta and IT IS DAY 4 WITH A MEDIC DEAD AND A SCUM TEAM NOT KILLING HIM. How is this just occuring to me rofl. So bad. But sometimes right. That should be my motto. I don't disagree with this in itself.... but this means that either sharrant has taken damage from scum or a scum ability, or DI is lying about his hp check. Both of which seem unlikely. More unlikely than a framer framing mocsta, a replacement who seems townie despite the person he replaced looking scummy/null.
I don't think you are right here Clarity. If Sharrant is cop scum knows that. If they have a framer they assign their frame based on who the cop is most likely going to check. Which i would think based on Sharrant's posts was Koshi/SnB.
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On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win....
So who exactly is setting this up? I didn't see Clarity in your reads list as mafia. As far as i know he is willing to lynch you. Can you explain your thought process of what's going on here and and who is setting up what?
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