GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 141

On August 15 2013 00:20 strongandbig wrote:

rayn why did you say this. before it I see nothing in your filter about a read on vivax.

On August 14 2013 22:31 Koshi wrote:
Mocsta just won that micro mafia game as scum, you can judge his opponents yourself. He is not going to be catched as easily like jrkirby. But look at how he reacts when I say that jkirby his posting looks like scum.


Not fucking only does he says that jrkirby his posting is not scummy at all. He calls me scum (I was null before) for not seeing that kirby was obvious town.


BAM. Koshi or Risen. Because jrkirby was obv town guys!




Ok this last quote is nitpicking. But where does Mocsta get the fucking authority to shush Rayn???? Mocsta isn't even fucking a Lord himself. LIKE WTF? Also read how Mocsta discribes rayn in his list, can you be more wishy-washy?

On August 15 2013 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Then why was Sharrant not roleblocked?
Why would roleblocking Sharrant incriminate Acrofales? What makes you think mafia thought you/Clarity/both were more likely to be blue than Sharrant (in case he is town - he was really... i do not know what the English word is.. i felt like he was not telling everything he knew in thread)? After his one shot cop reveal he has continued to be like that. I would really like to hear who is he PMing with besides his house. And for what reasons.

Also Xata, what was the sudden change of mind in your read on Acro, and your bullshit attack on me?
Also what do you have to say about my case on Mocsta.

On August 15 2013 00:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos, i feel a bit offended for your response. I feel like i have done more scumhunting and tried to get shit done on D1 over any other person (barring iamp at the end of D1). On D2 as i have explained why i didn't do much, i didn't have to. yamato was gonna die. I have shared all my reads with Risen on N2 (and at that time i did not know Ace was gonna get modkilled) so they would have been in thread on D3 anyways (or i would have been dead, which proves i am town).

Can you expand on "not focusing on scumhunting"? Show me some examples.

Also you did not explain why you agree with your scumread Acro immediately on his case on me (which was btw bullshit).

On August 15 2013 00:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
Did somebody call for a dick measuring contest?

I think so.

On August 15 2013 00:50 Xatalos wrote:


It's weird that you're not participating for once

On August 15 2013 00:50 Dandel Ion wrote:

I already won mine.

On August 15 2013 00:49 Xatalos wrote:


iamperfection kept telling me that Acro was town (and with some good reasoning). When we started arguing, my read on Acro was closer to a nullread than a scumread. As we kept arguing, I started to think more and more that he might be town after all. His case on you awakened the lingering suspicion I had had on you for much longer, but never actually pushed. I'm not saying that you're likely scum. I'm just saying that you're not nearly as likely town as in NWM. Even iamperfection reduced his strong townread of you close to a nullread after D2.

"On D2 as i have explained why i didn't do much, i didn't have to."

That has to be the most scummy statement I've seen all game.............

You've done some scumhunting, but I doubt I'll have to show you why a disturbing amount of your filter is just utterly useless questioning and arguing.

On August 15 2013 00:52 Xatalos wrote:


s0Lstice might disagree

On August 14 2013 23:36 Xatalos wrote:


You're clearly not reading very closely. That was just my second post against Risen, with almost the same content as the first one. I had more after that, like his contradictory statements about his scumreads on me and DI (and also his push for Sharrant didn't feel right, nor his faulty logic with his original accusations and how he never followed up on them).

iamperfection initially got me suspicious of you. Here's a summary of his opinions (from the last will post):

"Vivax- so i reread what he posted after i told him i think he is scum. Fucker still has not had a single strong push the entire game. vivax should be leading the town or fighting me if im wrong about sompething he simply does not care what is going on and isnt trying to catch scum. He does this because he is scum"

Basically, lack of genuine effort, pushing, involvement... Not just lack of activity. Lynchworthy for sure.

After some PM'ing with Clarity I'm not as confident in Risen being scum anymore. He's generally crazy and it's hard to distinguish between crazy town and crazy scum. Maybe his faulty logic is explained by his general lack of logical thinking. For now it might be a better idea to lynch you, s0Lstice, snb or Mocsta (unless he keeps up his clear effort, which isn't very easy to do as scum).

On August 09 2013 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that Risen is quite likely town (unfortunately, one might also say).

Omfg Ace.. E
Well he was somewhat a suspect so.

Okay this Xatalos / Acrofales thing is really frustrating. Acrofales clearly does not know how i play if he is town and accusing me of what he is atm. I'll deal with that on D3 in case i am alive. I don't remember if i have played him in any game but in Red Teams Prize, but i'll tell him to look into my play in that game. If he doesn't see how dumb he is he is probably scum.

Xatalos just hops on his scumreads case on his townread. lol. And for what reasons, "rayn has been focusing on all the wrong things in this game". Like he knows what's right and what's wrong. How can he even say that. Seems really fucking fishy.

I do not understand why iamp is unwilling to comment on that shit. Other than that (based on my interactions with him on D1) he seems really town but this really bothers me.

Sharrant / Acro thing is fishy as you pointed out. SnB look a bit better as he actually read your post and actually understood what you were saying. Nothing definitive at least if Sharrant and/or Acro is in fact town.

johnnywup/Jrkirby(Mocsta) are still totally useless. The lynchbait thing Acro talked about me is bullshit as i pointed out. If Acro is mafia, it's really likely that johnnuwup is too. Like people are willing to kill jrkirby for being useless but not johnnywup. What's the difference between them? I do not see it.

Vivax should be pressured hard on D3. Again, the same thing that happened in D1 end. He made a couple of good posts but other than that he is useless. I'm planning on pressuring him hard from D3 start, now is time to start playing if he is town.

Mocsta claimed jailkeeper? lol? His meta defense on Sharrant is totally wrong. He says Sharrant is a lynchbait, that's not true. In LXI we caught 2 scum with Sharrant on N1 with our good play, Sharrant is not showing any of that play here. Maybe he is a JK/roleblocker who blocked Xatalos on N1. In Xata's defense the roleblock looks town on him. If Mocsta is roleblocker it means Xatalos is like likely town and just really stupid.

After doing some rethinking i think it´s likely that Oberyn is town. He had very good points in PM's on D1. I am not sure of Onegu yet, although he made sense at the end of D2.

Everyone else seems town to me atm. What are your thoughts?

Also, can i be the lord on D3? I really need to get into the PM land, i was really frustrated as i had no fucking idea what's going on and all the lords pretty much sat on their asses and didn't interact in thread at all. Are you okay with this?

On August 15 2013 00:55 Vivax wrote:


Effort, pushing, involvement. You mention things that aren't very empiric, so to say. You don't show if I'm pushing scum agenda, you don't quote particular posts, you say it's not activity, but you don't tell how you measure the three attributes you think make me scum when they are usually correlated to activity.

The case on me is bullshit, I'm town, and I have yet to see a case with a clear line of thought that doesn't use activity as argument. I invite you to make one based on the content of my posts, and I'll dunk it, and you afterwards if you fuck up.

I don't see what you mean with contradictory statements from Risen. You posted that he was wrong about you and Dandel, afterwards you posted this:



So I wonder now, why do you mention something that is supposed to make him scum when in the past it wasn't reason enough and you gave him a townread in spite of what you call a contradiction now.

On August 15 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

To your bolded statement. I did not offer my conclusions in thread. It's not that i do not have them (something Acro falsely used in his case aswell). There was no way noone else than yamato was gonna get lynched. Why should i tell everything i have figured out in thread? Everyone who knows how i play knowes i will PM my thoughts to Risen before the end of night, and in case i do die, Risen has to publish them. Otherwise he dies. Do you agree?