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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Look I am out of this thread. Looks like we will lynch paper. I will add my vote if it is needed. I will check back 1 hour from now. Maybe you guys are right. I don't believe it. But meh. Also, Vivax and VA are nowhere to be seen in the heat of battle. I noted that down as well! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo. When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him". This makes no sense from town PoV. scum. On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote: Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though. He does not want to see what hz (his top scumread) has to say about Malongo (his other scumread). If he thinks hz and Malongo are scum he should be interested what hz thinks about Malongo based on the quote above. Instead he is only talking about Paperscraps. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
No his point is that pressure on lurkers is important and hz made it so it didn't happen, which is bullshit. Just because hz put no pressure on lurkers doesnt mean he created an atmosphere in which it wasnt possible. Why the fuck are you and Malongo suddenly jerking off in the corner. FUCKING CONSOLIDATE | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi: First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo. When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him". This makes no sense from town PoV. scum. He does not want to see what hz (his top scumread) has to say about Malongo (his other scumread). If he thinks hz and Malongo are scum he should be interested what hz thinks about Malongo based on the quote above. Instead he is only talking about Paperscraps. Lots of leaps in here. He's asking why WE (you and me, the two active people who replied to the case in thread) ignored malongo. Then hz asks if he should respond to the case NOW and he says no. You're just misreading stuff I think, or I'm misunderstanding your case | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:08 Malongo wrote: A) When you said the guy was not answering you directly. hint: he did Those are not answers. The first is him saying that he did not read the thread properly, which is absolutely useless to everyone involved. On July 28 2013 18:25 Paperscraps wrote: Maybe I am missing something, but reading through Oats' filter he doesn't push on you. He doesn't even directly call you scum. I am not sure what you are looking for here. I believe what he has said about you so far is decent. I really don't see how it contradicts my read. Stepping on toes = abrasive. Is your gripe with him calling you defensive? On July 28 2013 18:29 Paperscraps wrote: Oh well I misread that. Shouldn't be posting this late at night, haha. I disagree with Oats on that point. The second is him refusing to answer my questions which again is useless. On July 28 2013 18:31 Paperscraps wrote: I don't really plan on answering it either. I shouldn't have to go through another person's whole filter and outline what I think are good reads or insight. You can choose to agree or disagree. That is all that really matters. Do you expect me to think that Paper is town after that? If I thought that Paper was town after that then you should be worried. On July 29 2013 07:08 Malongo wrote: B) When you said *how pleople find Paper townie posting. hint: null =/= townie You said yourself that most people see Paper as null towards Townie. I think that most people should of seen paper as scummy. How exactly does that make me scum? We can have the lurker discussion later in depth. If you want I am happy to go into my mafia game theory with you, but now is not the time. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:15 Clarity_nl wrote: Lots of leaps in here. He's asking why WE (you and me, the two active people who replied to the case in thread) ignored malongo. Then hz asks if he should respond to the case NOW and he says no. You're just misreading stuff I think, or I'm misunderstanding your case hz answers Koshi's post where he talks about Malongo and does not address Malongo at all. If you were Koshi would it be fishy to you (as hz is your top scumread)? I would sure as hell know what he thinks about Malongo, but he doesn't. | ||
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Vivax
21972 Posts
I'm more sure of JAT being scum than PS, and that makes me pretty doubtful. | ||
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:13 Clarity_nl wrote: No his point is that pressure on lurkers is important and hz made it so it didn't happen, which is bullshit. Just because hz put no pressure on lurkers doesnt mean he created an atmosphere in which it wasnt possible. Why the fuck are you and Malongo suddenly jerking off in the corner. FUCKING CONSOLIDATE I am pointing out directly at the post where hz didnt want to pressure lurkers early because *it was best for the town to consolidate 2/3 wagons early* wich never happened because there was only one wagon on Paper. If he wanted more wagons then why did hz kept focusing on convincing everyone that Paper is mafia. Clarity you are actively ignoring that he lied. | ||
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Vivax
21972 Posts
This is a bit from PS which I find pretty townie. HZ actually used this as point AGAINST him, which was one of the points I found myself disagreeing with. The change of mind shit after rereading is something rather townie imho. Hey, do you still think exarezee is a good lynch for today? I am leaning town on him right now. If anything I think there are better lynches, such as Vivax or JAT. Also I think my initial read on hzflank was hasty, after re reading his filter I find him being a possible lynch choice as well. | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:23 Malongo wrote: I am pointing out directly at the post where hz didnt want to pressure lurkers early because *it was best for the town to consolidate 2/3 wagons early* wich never happened because there was only one wagon on Paper. If he wanted more wagons then why did hz kept focusing on convincing everyone that Paper is mafia. Clarity you are actively ignoring that he lied. I'm pretty sure 2 votes on papers isn't close to a wagon | ||
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Vivax
21972 Posts
You start to look scummy to me because you are killing town atmosphere and keeping tunneling me with that joke of a case. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Like everyone I may be naturally prone to tunneling which is why I actively try to avoid it. If you read my filter then you really should see this. You seem to think I am scum because I lied but I do not think that I lied at all. | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 28 2013 18:31 Paperscraps wrote: I don't really plan on answering it either. I shouldn't have to go through another person's whole filter and outline what I think are good reads or insight. You can choose to agree or disagree. That is all that really matters. I'm sorry, but I just can't let this papers post slide. Useless or scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:20 Vivax wrote: Rayn, what do you make of PS pushing JAT. I'm more sure of JAT being scum than PS, and that makes me pretty doubtful. I am not so sure about that any more tbh. I don't like the fact that either one of them has not been here for a very long time. On Paper i really didn't like his proposition to vig me or Stutters. I have clearly been unable to post and that is not alignment indicative. Stutters has good posts imo. If he thinks one of us is mafia, then vote for us instead of someone else. I think at that time his vote on JAT was just a "throwaway vote". The only thing that's fishy overall is that people are willing to discuss Paper but not JAT. What do you think about Koshi and his latest contributions? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:24 Vivax wrote: Jesus fuck why can't we lynch JAT. This is a bit from PS which I find pretty townie. HZ actually used this as point AGAINST him, which was one of the points I found myself disagreeing with. The change of mind shit after rereading is something rather townie imho. Is my reasoning for using this against him bad? Read this post for some recent reasoning. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=40#786 To be specific, when reads change the important thing is for other people to be able to understand why a read changes from a town perspective. Can you see the reason why Paper's read changed? | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
I'm having a hard time believing that more people don't find paper's posts atrocious. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
We really need JAT and Paper to start posting. | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 29 2013 07:34 hzflank wrote: I do not want to take all the attention away from JAT because he does look like scum and I am aware than I am defending him by proxy. The problem that I have is that I don't know for sure which of you are town, so if I just easily change my vote to JAT then I may just be easily letting scum control my vote. We really need JAT and Paper to start posting. JAT went to a concert and might not be back. No idea on papers. | ||
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