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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 28 2013 22:58 GMT
#901
On July 29 2013 07:55 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:51 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:48 exarezee wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?


I am putting myself in Tofu's shoes. What is he thinking to have voted me? His shift from being against my lynch to voting me was too sudden. It is scummy. He has been all about lynching you exarezee, then is now voting his scum's scum read. That doesn't strike you as odd play?


I'm still confused as to who is bussing who. Bussing = mafia throwing another mafia under the bus right? Who do you think is doing this.


What he meant imo is that FT thinks you and Paper are both scum, and that PS says that Tofu is supposed to ask himself if it makes sense for you to bus Paperscraps.
A good point imo.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 22:58 GMT
#902
JAT is probably town btw.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 22:59 GMT
#903
Can you guys just vote for Koshi please?
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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:59 GMT
#904
On July 29 2013 07:51 exarezee wrote:
@Papers

I think you should defend yourself at this point from hzflank's posts. You're going to get lynched if you don't defend yourself. Finding another suspect is useless at this point. If you know you're town, the best pro-town thing you could do right now is to save yourself.


He says my list is scummy. That is subjective. When I was catching up, I jotted down what I thought of people, nothing people wrote struck me as super scummy.

He calls my analysis of hzflank and you not both being scum, fluff. When it is a decent read. Again subjective.

Why should I have to go in depth and explain my town reads. We all know how easy it is to manipulate people's posts into whatever you want to believe. I don't like that style of play. I look for interactions between players, sudden changes in behavior, voting patterns.

Do I have to make a full blow case against some one and dissect every word they say and provide the greek meaning of each said word. No I don't. It doesn't make the person I FoS not scum, if I only provide a few lines as too why. At that point in time I wasn't even super sure on any of my reads. It was my initial read through. I didn't have to commit to anything. I never said any of my reads were very strong. Those were just my thoughts, so you guys could see where my head was at.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 23:01 GMT
#905
On July 29 2013 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is not dumb. He just isn't. I said that in I swear 2 and while i was mafia i was not lying.

Hmm you're right. Tbh I didn't really pay attention to him in I swear because of what I heard in the NWM postgame. His reads were good in I swear.

I could get behind this then, he really doesn't have an excuse in that case.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 23:01 GMT
#906
paper isn't scum, preferably lynch firmtofu if you have to pick into that venue.

If you are smart vote vivax, outta here for now
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 23:03 GMT
#907
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 23:04 GMT
#908
On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?


The only reason you would ever like a lynch for me as I stated before is that you think im a power role or im going to tunnel you endlessly so you are scared scum.

Not really helping your case, especially when I'm not even doing that.
I come in for the scraps
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 28 2013 23:05 GMT
#909
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


The tone was intentionally biased, the content was not. The thing is that when I first voted on you it was a gamble and I have no reason to care whether or not my initial vote was correct or not. Even I am not arrogant enough to expect to find scum at such an early point. The reasons why I think you are scum came later and that is why my case is completely focussed on your later posts.

You need to appreciate that in order for me or anyone else to think that my case is incorrect then we need to be able to see how your posts were more likely to come from town than from scum. You need to address the points mentioned in my case so that we can do this.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 23:05 GMT
#910
On July 29 2013 08:04 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?


The only reason you would ever like a lynch for me as I stated before is that you think im a power role or im going to tunnel you endlessly so you are scared scum.

Not really helping your case, especially when I'm not even doing that.

Nha, there is the reason that you are useless.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 23:06 GMT
#911
1 hour before deadline. It is Paper? Because I need sleep.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#912
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps
I had a good night of sleep.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:08 GMT
#913
On July 29 2013 07:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I agree that Tofu's switch was everything except good looking.
He doesn't seem to fight much for his own reads.

Can you tell me what you thought were those amazing reads from Oats that made you townread him in your list post?


The main thing I like about Oat's is his posts don't seem super thought out. This gives them a sense of truth and genuineness imo. He doesn't seem like he is trying to manipulate everything he talks about, but just gives us his outlook on the matter. I actually kind of dig his filler post's as well, they are light hearted and don't seemed forced. I would be hard pressed to see Oats flip scum and have been forcing all of these posts.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 23:10 GMT
#914
On July 29 2013 07:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

lol, you don't want your top scumread to contribute? wtf, maybe we should lynch Koshi.

To be more precise. You don't want your top scumread to contribute towards your other scumread.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Koshi

That's enough bullshit.

Paper has never been my scumread. Ohhh you are a funny one!

On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?

On July 29 2013 08:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps

Is that enough for everyone?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
July 28 2013 23:10 GMT
#915
Rayn, I went through your koshi stuff.

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should.


It really seems like something weird to say to your scumread when it offers you to defend itself against some points you just asked to be paid attention to.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 23:10 GMT
#916
On July 29 2013 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:05 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

lol, you don't want your top scumread to contribute? wtf, maybe we should lynch Koshi.

To be more precise. You don't want your top scumread to contribute towards your other scumread.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Koshi

That's enough bullshit.

Paper has never been my scumread. Ohhh you are a funny one!

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps

Is that enough for everyone?

BECAUSE I PREFER I LYNCH OVER ANYTHING ELSE. AND I DON'T THINK I AM GOD ALLMIGHTY WHO IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

Jeezus rayn. Your tunneling is insane.
I had a good night of sleep.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 23:11 GMT
#917
On July 29 2013 08:08 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:51 Vivax wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I agree that Tofu's switch was everything except good looking.
He doesn't seem to fight much for his own reads.

Can you tell me what you thought were those amazing reads from Oats that made you townread him in your list post?


The main thing I like about Oat's is his posts don't seem super thought out. This gives them a sense of truth and genuineness imo. He doesn't seem like he is trying to manipulate everything he talks about, but just gives us his outlook on the matter. I actually kind of dig his filler post's as well, they are light hearted and don't seemed forced. I would be hard pressed to see Oats flip scum and have been forcing all of these posts.


By posts do you mean 1 liners? It's not like he's massively analyzing anything. I don't think this is difficult to emulate as a scum. I think it's pretty role neutral his posting style.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 28 2013 23:12 GMT
#918
Koshi, why did you vote paper instead of JAT?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#919
On July 29 2013 08:12 hzflank wrote:
Koshi, why did you vote paper instead of JAT?

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I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#920
Because he is scum. duh.
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