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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:39 GMT
#881
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:42 GMT
#882
@Koshi could you explain your case against JAT? Why are his 1st 2 posts bad?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:43 GMT
#883
Oh koshi is gone. didn't see that oh well. I don't even see the case aginst JAT reading through his filter. Can someone summarise the case against him? I tend to agree with almost all of JAT's posts.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:46 GMT
#884
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#885
@Paper

1 hour 13 minutes till deadline
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#886
Oh, rayn's posts have been good so far. He is clear, logical. He shouldn't be vigged.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:48 GMT
#887
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 22:48 GMT
#888
Like I said Rayn I don't get him. Based off of NWM he should be an obvious lynch but I heard his game before NWM was equally terrible (as town). Your case would be a lot more powerful on just about anyone other than him(maybe not Mal) but I don't think it's enough to lynch him over Paper.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 22:50 GMT
#889
On July 29 2013 07:42 exarezee wrote:
@Koshi could you explain your case against JAT? Why are his 1st 2 posts bad?



On July 29 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:32 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 29 2013 05:22 Koshi wrote:
Vivax
You don't think JAT is new to the game?


Is he?
Even if he was, it still wouldn't explain why he lists Oats as read he disagrees with but never attacks him.
If he's town and deliberately not openly talking about the players he finds suspicious, but lists them as not-town as means to attack somebody else, then he must be not just super newb, but super newb not wanting to play or solve the game.


Koshi, you included him in your list and then retreated from it, mind telling me what you initially found scummy about his first two posts, and what changed your opinion later?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie?

Give me some time yo.

Well, my filter isn't exactly huge....

I would like to repeat my earlier request:
On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad?

Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...

Oh I missed that question earlier.

I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore.

I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases.

I am actually leaning town on you now.


Like I said before. He reminds me of myself when I didn't know how to start playing in a game. You read the tread but you got 0 clues what to do. The thing you do then is read what other people think and try to verify that, JAT read what hzflank said about paper and then tried to make a case around that.
The second post is him trying to find a townie. The problem I had with that post is that I didn't find FT his filter that town looking. But that was before I saw that JAT is probably new to the game opposed to being scum.

I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 28 2013 22:50 GMT
#890
On July 29 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?


On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper


With all due respect Rayn, I doubt that anyone has a solid town read on you at this point and therefore it is correct that Koshi should question this. Personally I did think that there was a fourth lynch candidate, which was Koshi.

On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".


Koshi's whole game seems to be that he thinks I am scum but he cannot figure out how to get me lynched. He might of just thought that there was no point in me discussing it today as I was not going to be lynched anyway. To be honest, that is what I thought.

My take on Koshi is simple at this point. The only useful thing he has done all game is attempt to push a scum read on me. As I have said, his whole game revolves around him thinking that I am scum. If he genuinely believes that I am scum up until now then I can believe that he might be town. Because Koshi has done nothing that did not involve me, I cannot find any other reasons as to why I believe he is scum.

Conclusion: If Koshi really thinks that I am scum then I do not have a scum read on Koshi.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#891
Also lol wtf, either that is the scumslip of the year or that made zero sense.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#892
Koshi is not dumb. He just isn't. I said that in I swear 2 and while i was mafia i was not lying.
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#893
@Papers

I think you should defend yourself at this point from hzflank's posts. You're going to get lynched if you don't defend yourself. Finding another suspect is useless at this point. If you know you're town, the best pro-town thing you could do right now is to save yourself.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#894
On July 29 2013 07:48 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?


I am putting myself in Tofu's shoes. What is he thinking to have voted me? His shift from being against my lynch to voting me was too sudden. It is scummy. He has been all about lynching you exarezee, then is now voting his scum's scum read. That doesn't strike you as odd play?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22393 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#895
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I agree that Tofu's switch was everything except good looking.
He doesn't seem to fight much for his own reads.

Can you tell me what you thought were those amazing reads from Oats that made you townread him in your list post?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:54 GMT
#896
I also don't like the fact that FT has disappeared when i unvoted him..
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:55 GMT
#897
On July 29 2013 07:51 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:48 exarezee wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?


I am putting myself in Tofu's shoes. What is he thinking to have voted me? His shift from being against my lynch to voting me was too sudden. It is scummy. He has been all about lynching you exarezee, then is now voting his scum's scum read. That doesn't strike you as odd play?


I'm still confused as to who is bussing who. Bussing = mafia throwing another mafia under the bus right? Who do you think is doing this.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#898
On July 29 2013 07:50 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?


Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper


With all due respect Rayn, I doubt that anyone has a solid town read on you at this point and therefore it is correct that Koshi should question this. Personally I did think that there was a fourth lynch candidate, which was Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".


Koshi's whole game seems to be that he thinks I am scum but he cannot figure out how to get me lynched. He might of just thought that there was no point in me discussing it today as I was not going to be lynched anyway. To be honest, that is what I thought.

My take on Koshi is simple at this point. The only useful thing he has done all game is attempt to push a scum read on me. As I have said, his whole game revolves around him thinking that I am scum. If he genuinely believes that I am scum up until now then I can believe that he might be town. Because Koshi has done nothing that did not involve me, I cannot find any other reasons as to why I believe he is scum.

Conclusion: If Koshi really thinks that I am scum then I do not have a scum read on Koshi.

The parts you quoted from my post are meant to be together. That's a follow up. Of course Koshi is allowed to not have a town read on me, and even if he did he is allowed to disagree with me on lynch targets. But if he disagrees he is contradicting himself in what he says later on. Things like: "You can't get X lynched" and "Don't talk about them, there is no point". On top of that he has no intention to figure out what his scumread thinks about his another scumread.

That is enough. He is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#899
The fact that people are still discussing shit and not everyone is piled on paper yet actually makes me feel better about lynching him. Let's go guys
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#900
I'm back and just caught up. Now I'm frustrated because I already started a post calling Vivax out for lying about my stance on oats and I have to see he corrected himself (nice one). As this is the only real point Vivax makes in order to get people to vote me that is not stolen from oats case (which is terrible) there is nothing more to say for me besides it really looks like Vivax just absolutely doesn't want Paper to be lynched.
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