• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:52
CEST 15:52
KST 22:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview3[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !0Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion AI Question
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1787 users

Titanic Mini Mafia! - Page 45

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 255 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:39 GMT
#881
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:42 GMT
#882
@Koshi could you explain your case against JAT? Why are his 1st 2 posts bad?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:43 GMT
#883
Oh koshi is gone. didn't see that oh well. I don't even see the case aginst JAT reading through his filter. Can someone summarise the case against him? I tend to agree with almost all of JAT's posts.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:46 GMT
#884
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#885
@Paper

1 hour 13 minutes till deadline
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#886
Oh, rayn's posts have been good so far. He is clear, logical. He shouldn't be vigged.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:48 GMT
#887
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 22:48 GMT
#888
Like I said Rayn I don't get him. Based off of NWM he should be an obvious lynch but I heard his game before NWM was equally terrible (as town). Your case would be a lot more powerful on just about anyone other than him(maybe not Mal) but I don't think it's enough to lynch him over Paper.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 28 2013 22:50 GMT
#889
On July 29 2013 07:42 exarezee wrote:
@Koshi could you explain your case against JAT? Why are his 1st 2 posts bad?



On July 29 2013 05:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:32 Vivax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 29 2013 05:22 Koshi wrote:
Vivax
You don't think JAT is new to the game?


Is he?
Even if he was, it still wouldn't explain why he lists Oats as read he disagrees with but never attacks him.
If he's town and deliberately not openly talking about the players he finds suspicious, but lists them as not-town as means to attack somebody else, then he must be not just super newb, but super newb not wanting to play or solve the game.


Koshi, you included him in your list and then retreated from it, mind telling me what you initially found scummy about his first two posts, and what changed your opinion later?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 28 2013 04:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie?

Give me some time yo.

Well, my filter isn't exactly huge....

I would like to repeat my earlier request:
On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad?

Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...

Oh I missed that question earlier.

I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore.

I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases.

I am actually leaning town on you now.


Like I said before. He reminds me of myself when I didn't know how to start playing in a game. You read the tread but you got 0 clues what to do. The thing you do then is read what other people think and try to verify that, JAT read what hzflank said about paper and then tried to make a case around that.
The second post is him trying to find a townie. The problem I had with that post is that I didn't find FT his filter that town looking. But that was before I saw that JAT is probably new to the game opposed to being scum.

I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 28 2013 22:50 GMT
#890
On July 29 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?


On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper


With all due respect Rayn, I doubt that anyone has a solid town read on you at this point and therefore it is correct that Koshi should question this. Personally I did think that there was a fourth lynch candidate, which was Koshi.

On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".


Koshi's whole game seems to be that he thinks I am scum but he cannot figure out how to get me lynched. He might of just thought that there was no point in me discussing it today as I was not going to be lynched anyway. To be honest, that is what I thought.

My take on Koshi is simple at this point. The only useful thing he has done all game is attempt to push a scum read on me. As I have said, his whole game revolves around him thinking that I am scum. If he genuinely believes that I am scum up until now then I can believe that he might be town. Because Koshi has done nothing that did not involve me, I cannot find any other reasons as to why I believe he is scum.

Conclusion: If Koshi really thinks that I am scum then I do not have a scum read on Koshi.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#891
Also lol wtf, either that is the scumslip of the year or that made zero sense.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#892
Koshi is not dumb. He just isn't. I said that in I swear 2 and while i was mafia i was not lying.
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#893
@Papers

I think you should defend yourself at this point from hzflank's posts. You're going to get lynched if you don't defend yourself. Finding another suspect is useless at this point. If you know you're town, the best pro-town thing you could do right now is to save yourself.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#894
On July 29 2013 07:48 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?


I am putting myself in Tofu's shoes. What is he thinking to have voted me? His shift from being against my lynch to voting me was too sudden. It is scummy. He has been all about lynching you exarezee, then is now voting his scum's scum read. That doesn't strike you as odd play?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22310 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#895
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I agree that Tofu's switch was everything except good looking.
He doesn't seem to fight much for his own reads.

Can you tell me what you thought were those amazing reads from Oats that made you townread him in your list post?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:54 GMT
#896
I also don't like the fact that FT has disappeared when i unvoted him..
table for two on a tv tray
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 22:55 GMT
#897
On July 29 2013 07:51 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:48 exarezee wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?


I am putting myself in Tofu's shoes. What is he thinking to have voted me? His shift from being against my lynch to voting me was too sudden. It is scummy. He has been all about lynching you exarezee, then is now voting his scum's scum read. That doesn't strike you as odd play?


I'm still confused as to who is bussing who. Bussing = mafia throwing another mafia under the bus right? Who do you think is doing this.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#898
On July 29 2013 07:50 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone other than Clarity commenting my case on Koshi?


Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First he says "who are you to decide who do we lynch. -> Implies there are other lynch candidates than FT/JAT/Paper


With all due respect Rayn, I doubt that anyone has a solid town read on you at this point and therefore it is correct that Koshi should question this. Personally I did think that there was a fourth lynch candidate, which was Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then he questions hz, his scumread about Malongo, or rather asks why are we ignoring Malongo.
When hz answers him about Malongo, he says "no you should not talk about him".


Koshi's whole game seems to be that he thinks I am scum but he cannot figure out how to get me lynched. He might of just thought that there was no point in me discussing it today as I was not going to be lynched anyway. To be honest, that is what I thought.

My take on Koshi is simple at this point. The only useful thing he has done all game is attempt to push a scum read on me. As I have said, his whole game revolves around him thinking that I am scum. If he genuinely believes that I am scum up until now then I can believe that he might be town. Because Koshi has done nothing that did not involve me, I cannot find any other reasons as to why I believe he is scum.

Conclusion: If Koshi really thinks that I am scum then I do not have a scum read on Koshi.

The parts you quoted from my post are meant to be together. That's a follow up. Of course Koshi is allowed to not have a town read on me, and even if he did he is allowed to disagree with me on lynch targets. But if he disagrees he is contradicting himself in what he says later on. Things like: "You can't get X lynched" and "Don't talk about them, there is no point". On top of that he has no intention to figure out what his scumread thinks about his another scumread.

That is enough. He is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#899
The fact that people are still discussing shit and not everyone is piled on paper yet actually makes me feel better about lynching him. Let's go guys
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
July 28 2013 22:57 GMT
#900
I'm back and just caught up. Now I'm frustrated because I already started a post calling Vivax out for lying about my stance on oats and I have to see he corrected himself (nice one). As this is the only real point Vivax makes in order to get people to vote me that is not stolen from oats case (which is terrible) there is nothing more to say for me besides it really looks like Vivax just absolutely doesn't want Paper to be lynched.
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 255 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #247
Liquipedia
OSC
11:00
Mid Season Playoffs
WardiTV646
Liquipedia
GSL
09:30
2026 Season 1: Ro8 Group B
ByuN vs herOLIVE!
Ryung 1087
IntoTheiNu 423
CranKy Ducklings SOOP97
Rex44
GSL EN (SOOP)0
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 1087
Hui .363
Rex 44
herO (SOOP) 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54476
firebathero 6923
Calm 6448
Sea 2451
Bisu 1691
EffOrt 916
Hyuk 623
Horang2 619
ggaemo 419
Light 385
[ Show more ]
Stork 366
Snow 302
BeSt 273
Zeus 265
Rush 251
actioN 244
Killer 213
Hyun 160
Soulkey 152
Hm[arnc] 144
Soma 125
hero 122
Mind 114
Backho 80
Pusan 78
Mong 63
Sea.KH 57
ToSsGirL 54
Aegong 46
soO 38
sSak 31
PianO 27
Shinee 23
Terrorterran 21
sorry 21
JulyZerg 19
Shine 16
Rock 16
Bale 16
Sacsri 13
GoRush 12
scan(afreeca) 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
IntoTheRainbow 10
Icarus 8
Movie 7
Dota 2
Gorgc3728
qojqva1097
XBOCT541
monkeys_forever170
420jenkins126
BananaSlamJamma91
League of Legends
Reynor77
Counter-Strike
byalli490
allub294
markeloff227
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 59
Other Games
singsing1826
hiko1683
B2W.Neo958
Lowko333
Mew2King101
ArmadaUGS90
Liquid`RaSZi79
Livibee32
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 7
• iHatsuTV 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1912
• TFBlade1402
Other Games
• WagamamaTV258
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 9m
Escore
20h 9m
The PondCast
20h 9m
WardiTV Invitational
21h 9m
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
Big Brain Bouts
1d 2h
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
OSC
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
1d 21h
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
BSL
3 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Leta
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
OSC
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.