On July 28 2013 01:30 Koshi wrote: It's also easy to change styles, I think VA is smart enough to not go "shitposting = I am town", "contentposting = I am scum".
I really don't think you can call VA any sort of smart after his last few posts...
Yeah I'm just going to ignore everything VA says for the rest of the game. Sounds good?
@FirmTofu: Why in the bloody hell are you calling my play useless? You're the one who made 6-7 posts at the beginning of the game and then said "peace out". You are in no position to say I've been useless, because I haven't.
Oatsmaster, please stop posting one-liners and unhelpful things, it's continuing to look very scummy. Perhaps you should interact with other townies and their cases instead of asking everyone to comment on your case like some dog begging for its' next meal.
On July 28 2013 05:55 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Yeah I'm just going to ignore everything VA says for the rest of the game. Sounds good?
@FirmTofu: Why in the bloody hell are you calling my play useless? You're the one who made 6-7 posts at the beginning of the game and then said "peace out". You are in no position to say I've been useless, because I haven't.
Oatsmaster, please stop posting one-liners and unhelpful things, it's continuing to look very scummy. Perhaps you should interact with other townies and their cases instead of asking everyone to comment on your case like some dog begging for its' next meal.
Also while I'm free for like ten minutes, this is a bad post.
Vayne can be hard to read but actually take the time to siphon through the terrible parts and he actually makes some good points usually. Haven't read him yet so I can't comment but if he isn't providing those good nuggets look into lynching him. Ignoring him is the dumbest and probably most anti-town thing you could do regarding him.
Overall this whole post does nothing towards reaching our win con. Noting this for later.
Also while I'm free for like ten minutes, this is a bad post.
Overall this whole post does nothing towards reaching our win con. Noting this for later.
Paper, I would have to disagree with a few of yer reads, and they are as follows:
Yer read on Oatsmaster is completely off. He has only made one read and his posting has been absolutely terrible. What in the world do you see in his filter that gives you the impression that his reads and posts are good?
Secondly, yer read on VayneAuthority is also absolute rubbish. You think his posts have been good? They've been absolute shit. His first post after your list was the only half-decent post VayneAuthority has given so far. That was a very generous town read on VayneAuthority.
On July 28 2013 15:37 FirmTofu wrote: Malongo is playing oddly different from his town games. Usually he lurks and is completely useless. I'm not sure what changed this time around.
Anyone have any questions for me to answer? I'm gonna try and dive some filters now.
*Raises hand* I have a question for ye. Why in the bloody hell did you say that Malongo is being any sort of useful? He's made 3 posts, and the last one was voting for someone based off of one sentence in his post. Is that really being useful? Try again, laddie.
Also, since Oatsmaster is probably not going to walk the plank today:
##unvote: Oatsmaster I'm still not giving him my rum, though.
VayneAuthority now has shown us that he does understand how to make intelligent, and he still refuses to give out scumreads and be helpful in any way. Something looks really suspicious to me, and I do not like it. Why in the world would any town player want to not give out their scum reads? He's starting to sound more like a slimy git scumbag to me.
I don't understand why Justanothertownie is still on the chopping block. It seems like Oats "crusade of justice" has spread to a few other players. Does anyone care to explain to me why Paperscraps and Justanothertownie are getting votes? They will get rum. Lots of rum.
On July 28 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote: So CJS, is vayne your only scumread?
No. You are still my other one. No one else seems to agree with me though. It makes me sad =(
Malongo's activity has been really disappointing to me. I'm not sure why FirmTofu say that his activity has been good when in fact it has been shit.
Stutters also came in, took a shot at me, and then peaced out without giving any real analysis. I'm not entirely sure if I can see any town motivation in that.
I just think that these are two people to look out for and I would be up for lynching any of the four players (Oatsmaster, VayneAuthority, Malongo, Stutters) today. I'm still not sold on the FirmTofu argument (I'll have to read it again when I have more rum) and I'm really not sold on the Paperscraps or JAT argument.
On July 28 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote: So CJS, is vayne your only scumread?
No. You are still my other one. No one else seems to agree with me though. It makes me sad =(
Malongo's activity has been really disappointing to me. I'm not sure why FirmTofu say that his activity has been good when in fact it has been shit.
Stutters also came in, took a shot at me, and then peaced out without giving any real analysis. I'm not entirely sure if I can see any town motivation in that.
I just think that these are two people to look out for and I would be up for lynching any of the four players (Oatsmaster, VayneAuthority, Malongo, Stutters) today. I'm still not sold on the FirmTofu argument (I'll have to read it again when I have more rum) and I'm really not sold on the Paperscraps or JAT argument.
What part of Paper's play made him not scum?
Well I truly believe that Paper's first few posts were him trying to just be sarcastic and funny. Everyone wants to see scum motivation in every single word someone posts, but I think we need to see Paper's joke votes as just that: joke votes. As someone who always tries to act myself, I can tell that Paper was just trying to have fun. So what has Paper done since then? He has given out a bunch of reads (albeit most of them were town) and he has been clear in what he wants (Vivax and JAT, perhaps Rayn or Malongo if their activity doesn't pick up) and he is asking questions and he doesn't look like he is hiding everything. Not very scummy, if you ask me.
do you have any scumreads at all? Other then saying that JAtownie "looks bad" I don't really see it. And even this accusation of him looking bad is after Oats posted a giant case on him....
On July 28 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote: Let's talk people that look bad atm. justanothertownie
Horrible first post. Horrible second post. 3 4 5 6 7 8
You only give your reasons for suspecting him of being scum after you have a townread on him.
On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote: FT, thoughts on justanothertownie?
Give me some time yo.
Well, my filter isn't exactly huge....
I would like to repeat my earlier request:
On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote: Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad?
Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...
Oh I missed that question earlier.
I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore.
I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases.
I am actually leaning town on you now.
Other than this, you've posted your "willing to lynch" lists but they have basically been JAtownie and a bunch of lurkers/non-posters.... and vayne who is trolling.
Who do you currently want to lynch?
In one of my first games I didn't know what to do so I started out with making 2 cases, both cases were horrible because I was new to the game, and I received a decent amount of flak for it. But I continued playing trying to learn and post 1 liners to help town. I see the same in JAT currently.
My fav lynch target can be found in the lists I make and will make.
Okay, and that's cute and innocent and stuff but being wrong does not a scum make. Go scumhunt, find scum. Making a list of 5 people which includes 4 lurkers and the current thread sentiment target, and then taking back the suspicion on the current thread sentiment target, does not make for a useful list.
Who do you currently want to lynch, and why? One name, couple of reasons. C'mon
My current lynchpool: raynpelikoneet Malongo VayneAuthority Stutters695
I have put ??? after these players but I can let them live another day: hzflank
On July 28 2013 23:37 hzflank wrote: Actually I changed my mind, I am hereby begging a Vig to just shoot JAT right now because I am pissed off that he is going to be afk until the deadline and that I have found myself in a position where I feel I need to defend him even though every post he has made has been scummy. Someone just shoot him now please :/
I'll shoot him!
Darn, wet powder. Find someone who has a working gun, and give him some rum!
Why are you still on this silly idea that having two wagons is a good idea? It is not. It allows scum to control the lynch by swinging their votes on one person or the other.
Here's some advice for you: find your biggest scumread, and vote for them. Savvy?
On July 28 2013 23:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: @exarezee
Why are you still on this silly idea that having two wagons is a good idea? It is not. It allows scum to control the lynch by swinging their votes on one person or the other.
Here's some advice for you: find your biggest scumread, and vote for them. Savvy?
Because I KNOW I'm town. How does this allow the scum to control the lynch? Why is my idea silly? Don't give a blanket statement that "it allows the scum to blah blah." So, if I said paper is scummy, and tofu is scummy, then it's ok? Ideally we want a consensus on votes. Ideally we would like votes spread around 2 people ONLY. We would have way more information than say there were 1 votes on everybody and 2 votes on another that got that person lynched.
Because you are trying to pidgeon-hole town into doing what you want. That's not very townie to do, is it? Not everyone is going to agree with BOTH of your lynch candidates. You need to pick one and let the rest of town either agree with you or bring up another wagon. It will happen naturally.
"If you try to chase two rabbits, you will lose them both" -Native American Proverb
On July 28 2013 23:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: @exarezee
Why are you still on this silly idea that having two wagons is a good idea? It is not. It allows scum to control the lynch by swinging their votes on one person or the other.
Here's some advice for you: find your biggest scumread, and vote for them. Savvy?
Because I KNOW I'm town. How does this allow the scum to control the lynch? Why is my idea silly? Don't give a blanket statement that "it allows the scum to blah blah." So, if I said paper is scummy, and tofu is scummy, then it's ok? Ideally we want a consensus on votes. Ideally we would like votes spread around 2 people ONLY. We would have way more information than say there were 1 votes on everybody and 2 votes on another that got that person lynched.
Because you are trying to pidgeon-hole town into doing what you want. That's not very townie to do, is it? Not everyone is going to agree with BOTH of your lynch candidates. You need to pick one and let the rest of town either agree with you or bring up another wagon. It will happen naturally.
"If you try to chase two rabbits, you will lose them both" -Native American Proverb
Why would I NOT pidgeon-hole this town into doing what I want. I'm 100% confident that I'm town unless I have completely misread my PM. I have no side agendas. I don't know for a certainty whether any of you have side agendas. This so stupid. LIke I can prove this mathematically for you if you like.
You are trying to convince us to kill either FirmTofu or Paperscraps. How are you not trying to pidgeon-hole us? Please tell me how mathematically, we can lynch both of them today. I'd love to see it.