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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait so you are saying that I unvoted because of what scum agenda? I dont see it anywhere. A simple scum reasoning could be because you thought that you had more chance to secure a lynch on JAT than on FT. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:08 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: No. You are still my other one. No one else seems to agree with me though. It makes me sad =( Malongo's activity has been really disappointing to me. I'm not sure why FirmTofu say that his activity has been good when in fact it has been shit. Stutters also came in, took a shot at me, and then peaced out without giving any real analysis. I'm not entirely sure if I can see any town motivation in that. I just think that these are two people to look out for and I would be up for lynching any of the four players (Oatsmaster, VayneAuthority, Malongo, Stutters) today. I'm still not sold on the FirmTofu argument (I'll have to read it again when I have more rum) and I'm really not sold on the Paperscraps or JAT argument. What part of Paper's play made him not scum? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:11 Koshi wrote: In one of my first games I didn't know what to do so I started out with making 2 cases, both cases were horrible because I was new to the game, and I received a decent amount of flak for it. But I continued playing trying to learn and post 1 liners to help town. I see the same in JAT currently. My fav lynch target can be found in the lists I make and will make. Okay, and that's cute and innocent and stuff but being wrong does not a scum make. Go scumhunt, find scum. Making a list of 5 people which includes 4 lurkers and the current thread sentiment target, and then taking back the suspicion on the current thread sentiment target, does not make for a useful list. Who do you currently want to lynch, and why? One name, couple of reasons. C'mon | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:14 hzflank wrote: A simple scum reasoning could be because you thought that you had more chance to secure a lynch on JAT than on FT. Are you serious? Who do you see wanting to lynch JAT? Vivax ONLY. FT more people dont view so well. Presuming im not horrible at playing scum, would scumoats do it? Fuck I wish marv was here to explain. | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
Well I truly believe that Paper's first few posts were him trying to just be sarcastic and funny. Everyone wants to see scum motivation in every single word someone posts, but I think we need to see Paper's joke votes as just that: joke votes. As someone who always tries to act myself, I can tell that Paper was just trying to have fun. So what has Paper done since then? He has given out a bunch of reads (albeit most of them were town) and he has been clear in what he wants (Vivax and JAT, perhaps Rayn or Malongo if their activity doesn't pick up) and he is asking questions and he doesn't look like he is hiding everything. Not very scummy, if you ask me. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Are you serious? Who do you see wanting to lynch JAT? Vivax ONLY. FT more people dont view so well. At the time that you posted it looked a lot easier to secure a lynch on JAT than FT. As well as Vivax, Clairty and I would not of voted FT but may have voted JAT. On July 28 2013 23:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Presuming im not horrible at playing scum, would scumoats do it? Fuck I wish marv was here to explain. It would not be the best scum play as you ideally would not want your target (JAT) to be lynched while eyes are also on a scum-buddy. It's not an impossible scum play though, just very difficult to pull off well (get a third party lynched). I'll concede on that last point as there would be no reason for scum to make such a big play on day 1. Still, why are you so sure that Paper is town? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:17 Clarity_nl wrote: Okay, and that's cute and innocent and stuff but being wrong does not a scum make. Go scumhunt, find scum. Making a list of 5 people which includes 4 lurkers and the current thread sentiment target, and then taking back the suspicion on the current thread sentiment target, does not make for a useful list. Who do you currently want to lynch, and why? One name, couple of reasons. C'mon My current lynchpool: raynpelikoneet Malongo VayneAuthority Stutters695 I have put ??? after these players but I can let them live another day: hzflank | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:33 Koshi wrote: My current lynchpool: raynpelikoneet Malongo VayneAuthority Stutters695 I have put ??? after these players but I can let them live another day: hzflank so lurker 1,2,3 and crazy. Nice list. | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:33 Koshi wrote: My current lynchpool: raynpelikoneet Malongo VayneAuthority Stutters695 I have put ??? after these players but I can let them live another day: hzflank Not good enough mate. Explain your reads. Now. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I dont know if hes scared scum or town though | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:29 hzflank wrote: At the time that you posted it looked a lot easier to secure a lynch on JAT than FT. As well as Vivax, Clairty and I would not of voted FT but may have voted JAT. It would not be the best scum play as you ideally would not want your target (JAT) to be lynched while eyes are also on a scum-buddy. It's not an impossible scum play though, just very difficult to pull off well (get a third party lynched). I'll concede on that last point as there would be no reason for scum to make such a big play on day 1. Still, why are you so sure that Paper is town? Because I just reread his filter, its townie through and through man. Hes trying his best and shit. It isnt the longest filter ever, read it again. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Also, Koshi what are you doing? I see no good reason for you making that list. Get stuck in properly and stop sitting on a fence. | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:37 hzflank wrote: Actually I changed my mind, I am hereby begging a Vig to just shoot JAT right now because I am pissed off that he is going to be afk until the deadline and that I have found myself in a position where I feel I need to defend him even though every post he has made has been scummy. Someone just shoot him now please :/ I'll shoot him! Darn, wet powder. Find someone who has a working gun, and give him some rum! | ||
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 28 2013 15:48 FirmTofu wrote: exarezee is a great lynch for today and I don't think we'll get a better one. Even if you aren't convinced by my case, you can always read his responses and see if they look town to you. If I thought his responses were adequate, I would have backed off immediately. The problem is that his defense is pretty meager. First of all, he didn't answer half of my case. He picked and chose the points he felt he could defend strongly. Secondly, almost his entire defensive is in a dismissive tone where he just goes to each point and says, "That isn't true because I'm town." If he was town he'd be addressing my points directly. Also, I find it odd that he isn't voting me after I posted such a lengthy case against him. Remember, he found me scummy before the case, so why doesn't he find me more scummy after it? After all, from his point of view, I'm tunneling a townie. If I were town in his position, I think I would fight back with accusations, not just defensive posts. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I can't explain him not giving a read with reasons as town, but I can't explain it if he's scum either. Doesn't make sense as either alignment = scum. On July 28 2013 23:35 VayneAuthority wrote: Don't you feel he's scared that im vig or something and will shoot him oats? He doesnt actually give a good reason for lynching me. Haha. I dont know if hes scared scum or town though What's this random mention of vigi? If you were vigi (which is town only) why would you shoot someone trying to lynch you, or why would the person trying to lynch you be afraid of that. I'm confused. | ||
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justanothertownie
16325 Posts
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exarezee
United States423 Posts
On July 28 2013 15:37 FirmTofu wrote: Malongo is playing oddly different from his town games. Usually he lurks and is completely useless. I'm not sure what changed this time around. Anyone have any questions for me to answer? I'm gonna try and dive some filters now. Malongo is still lurking and pretty much useless. On July 28 2013 15:48 FirmTofu wrote: exarezee is a great lynch for today and I don't think we'll get a better one. Even if you aren't convinced by my case, you can always read his responses and see if they look town to you. If I thought his responses were adequate, I would have backed off immediately. The problem is that his defense is pretty meager. First of all, he didn't answer half of my case. He picked and chose the points he felt he could defend strongly. Secondly, almost his entire defensive is in a dismissive tone where he just goes to each point and says, "That isn't true because I'm town." If he was town he'd be addressing my points directly. Also, I find it odd that he isn't voting me after I posted such a lengthy case against him. Remember, he found me scummy before the case, so why doesn't he find me more scummy after it? After all, from his point of view, I'm tunneling a townie. If I were town in his position, I think I would fight back with accusations, not just defensive posts. I have answered all your questions. Even though paper thinks I shouldn't answer all your questions. I have to vote you because you vote me? What kind of logic is that? I think your role is associated with paper's role and vice versa which is why I don't mind you as a wagon. It's just absolutely ludicrous that you think I should find you scummy for voting me. I just woke up. Will re-read and see if I think anybody is better than paper/tofu to wagon right now. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 28 2013 23:44 justanothertownie wrote: I will not be afk till the deadline if you want something from me just say it... I'll be here for over an hour till I leave. Nobody forces you to defend me if you think I am scummy. In fact you shouldn't. But if you do not defend yourself and I push my read then I am defending you by proxy. If I do not push my read then I am just playing badly. It's a lose/lose situation for me. It's not your fault ofcourse as I do not expect people to give up RL for this game. I just should of been more careful before I put myself in this situation. | ||
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Bahamas303 Posts
Why are you still on this silly idea that having two wagons is a good idea? It is not. It allows scum to control the lynch by swinging their votes on one person or the other. Here's some advice for you: find your biggest scumread, and vote for them. Savvy? | ||
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