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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 04:39 GMT
#461
@exar

Your need to defend/attack everything that is said about you is not helping. FMPOV I see a stubborn townie who thinks he found scum in the first day and doesn't want to look bad by backing down. Behind every post, even ones that aren't super-serious people can still have an agenda. Whether you believe it or not I don't really care. I have developed a decent read on you now and wish to move along to more important matters.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#462
On July 28 2013 13:39 Paperscraps wrote:
@exar

Your need to defend/attack everything that is said about you is not helping. FMPOV I see a stubborn townie who thinks he found scum in the first day and doesn't want to look bad by backing down. Behind every post, even ones that aren't super-serious people can still have an agenda. Whether you believe it or not I don't really care. I have developed a decent read on you now and wish to move along to more important matters.


Please tell me what you have done in the thread that merits me to move my vote off you. Since you have come back to the thread, you basically made one giant post where you had null or town reads on just about everyone.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 04:49 GMT
#463
@Paper

Let's break down your posts into 1A which ends in you unvoting and 1B which starts when you say you are going to work.

At the end of 1A, You state this. "TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all." Could you elaborate on this. Should we ignore your posts completely? Should we interpret them differently? Several people have interpreted your posts as being poor. Please address this.

VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 04:58 GMT
#464
Your endless tunneling is giving me doubts exar. At this point you are basically Nick Swardson.

I come in for the scraps
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 05:06 GMT
#465
I'm tunneling? What do I not see clearly?

Please point out flaws in my logical reasoning. Where do I make a bad logical mistake to imply I am not a townsperson trying to solve the case.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 05:09 GMT
#466
On July 28 2013 14:06 exarezee wrote:
I'm tunneling? What do I not see clearly?

Please point out flaws in my logical reasoning. Where do I make a bad logical mistake to imply I am not a townsperson trying to solve the case.


I'm not saying your case is bad or anything, but rather discussing the length as to which you keep drilling into it. There's quite a few other people in this game. Tunneling is an easy way to get by as scum without revealing too much about yourself. I do it all the time.
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 28 2013 05:18 GMT
#467
##unvote: justanothertownie
##vote FT
No gg, No skill.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 05:18 GMT
#468
On July 28 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:06 exarezee wrote:
I'm tunneling? What do I not see clearly?

Please point out flaws in my logical reasoning. Where do I make a bad logical mistake to imply I am not a townsperson trying to solve the case.


I'm not saying your case is bad or anything, but rather discussing the length as to which you keep drilling into it. There's quite a few other people in this game. Tunneling is an easy way to get by as scum without revealing too much about yourself. I do it all the time.


I think almost all of my posts today were responses to other people either asking me a question or me correcting wrong information said about me. I haven't been pushing my case much at all. I still don't see what I am tunneling. What blinders do I have on that is affecting my play?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 05:23 GMT
#469
On July 28 2013 14:18 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 28 2013 14:06 exarezee wrote:
I'm tunneling? What do I not see clearly?

Please point out flaws in my logical reasoning. Where do I make a bad logical mistake to imply I am not a townsperson trying to solve the case.


I'm not saying your case is bad or anything, but rather discussing the length as to which you keep drilling into it. There's quite a few other people in this game. Tunneling is an easy way to get by as scum without revealing too much about yourself. I do it all the time.


I think almost all of my posts today were responses to other people either asking me a question or me correcting wrong information said about me. I haven't been pushing my case much at all. I still don't see what I am tunneling. What blinders do I have on that is affecting my play?


Well if you are town and paper is also town you are setting yourself up for a failure of a game when you put all your eggs in one basket. Anyways there's no reason to continue this discussion.

Good vote btw Oats.
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 28 2013 05:28 GMT
#470
I know right Vayne ^^.

So FT.
On July 28 2013 04:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm null on JAT right now. He has me as a town read but a lot of his filter looks like he's trying to "fit in". Like he said himself, his filter isn't that big. I think if we get him to start positing more, it'll be easy to determine his alignment.

No, I would not lynch him today Oats. Not unless you make a good case against him.

He says that JAT having a town read on him is a town tell. What the fuck. Then he goes on and says the scummy part of his filter. Apparently they cancel each other out.
Also, he cares more about his appearance than lynching scum as can be seen by the fact that he asks me to make a case.
He would sheep me but only if the case is good. Not that JAT is scum. Totally wrong mindset here. Lynch him.
No gg, No skill.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 28 2013 05:29 GMT
#471
Sparrow pfff another smurf.
So far in the inactive players I see

5. raynpelikoneet
7. Malongo
9. Stutters695


In the hyper-activity side I see:

1. Oatsmaster
4. IMCaptainJackSparrow
10. hzflank
14. exarezee


Everyone else is meh-activity wise.

So far my best pick is
hzflank

I really didnt like this post from hzflank:

On July 27 2013 21:46 hzflank wrote:
Yes I would lynch a lurker today. However, I dislike beginning the day with the thought of lynching a lurker. I think the best thing on day 1 would be for at least 3 wagons to form before we even thinking about consolidating (or lynching a lurker). If enough cases are made then there is more chance that one of them is a case against scum and the scum team may react to that. It is hard to make a good case against a lurker, so I would prefer cases against active people to be discussed first.


The think about starting the day lynching a lurker is to force the players to post and force the mafia to make mistakes. I rather start the day forcing lurkers to post than "looking for 2/3 wagons" earlier. Earlier wagons are more likely to be town (in my experience) and the lurker lynching stays aside. Trying to get early wagons is also a good way to close the fence early wich help the mafia more than the town.

His vote so far on Paperscraps is really weak and when I read his filter I found it really reactive (or defensive as he put it).

##Vote: hzflank

Id be happy to lynch CJS for no reason too ( I just hate attention-smurfs ).

Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 05:29 GMT
#472
@Vayne

I see that you want to stop discussions when you don't answer anything that I ask. Tunneling implies that I am so focused on something that I don't see the bigger picture. Please tell me the bigger picture that I'm missing. Don't give me some random saying like putting all your eggs in one basket. I know I'm town. It is certainly possible that paper is town. If papers is town, how am i setting myself up for a failure of a game?

Who do you think is a better scum candidate than papers atm?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 28 2013 05:32 GMT
#473
I'm going to call it a night. Will re-read in the morning.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 28 2013 05:35 GMT
#474
On July 28 2013 14:29 exarezee wrote:
@Vayne

I see that you want to stop discussions when you don't answer anything that I ask. Tunneling implies that I am so focused on something that I don't see the bigger picture. Please tell me the bigger picture that I'm missing. Don't give me some random saying like putting all your eggs in one basket. I know I'm town. It is certainly possible that paper is town. If papers is town, how am i setting myself up for a failure of a game?

Who do you think is a better scum candidate than papers atm?


sorry but you can't trick me into contradicting myself =) I have quite a few scum reads but it's not worth it to give them out on day 1.

There is no bigger picture. Just take what I said at face value and approach the game like paperscraps doesn't exist for a second.
I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 28 2013 05:36 GMT
#475
On July 28 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 14:29 exarezee wrote:
@Vayne

I see that you want to stop discussions when you don't answer anything that I ask. Tunneling implies that I am so focused on something that I don't see the bigger picture. Please tell me the bigger picture that I'm missing. Don't give me some random saying like putting all your eggs in one basket. I know I'm town. It is certainly possible that paper is town. If papers is town, how am i setting myself up for a failure of a game?

Who do you think is a better scum candidate than papers atm?


sorry but you can't trick me into contradicting myself =) I have quite a few scum reads but it's not worth it to give them out on day 1.

There is no bigger picture. Just take what I said at face value and approach the game like paperscraps doesn't exist for a second.

Vayne dont be a dick.
No gg, No skill.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
July 28 2013 05:51 GMT
#476
Votecount so far:

Paperscraps (2)
hzflank
exarezee

FirmTofu (1)
Oatsmaster

Clarity_nl (1)
VayneAuthority

Stutters695 (1)
Vivax

Oatsmaster (1)
Captain Jack

exarezee (1)
FirmTofu

hzflank (1)
Malongo

Not Voting
Clarity_nl, raynpelikoneet, Paperscraps, Stutters695, Koshi, justanothertownie

Tell me if I missed anyone. Deadline is in !
Remember that voting is mandatory.

FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 06:30 GMT
#477
Hey guys, I was busy with my other game, but I'm back now for a bit. I'll answer any questions if you have them. I've going to sleep soon though.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 06:33 GMT
#478
@Oatsmaster
I would like to hear your read on FT. I am bit cross at the moment. Tofu had no reason to defend me early on. If he were scum, what is the motivation behind doing this. He could actually town read me and scum read exar or being trying to look town by defending me. What are your thoughts?

@Malongo
Good to see you posting. I am curious, do you have any town reads so far?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 06:35 GMT
#479
On July 28 2013 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
I know right Vayne ^^.

So FT.
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 04:39 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm null on JAT right now. He has me as a town read but a lot of his filter looks like he's trying to "fit in". Like he said himself, his filter isn't that big. I think if we get him to start positing more, it'll be easy to determine his alignment.

No, I would not lynch him today Oats. Not unless you make a good case against him.

He says that JAT having a town read on him is a town tell. What the fuck. Then he goes on and says the scummy part of his filter. Apparently they cancel each other out.
Also, he cares more about his appearance than lynching scum as can be seen by the fact that he asks me to make a case.
He would sheep me but only if the case is good. Not that JAT is scum. Totally wrong mindset here. Lynch him.

No, I didn't say JAT having a town read on me is a town tell. That's simply untrue. I said he has me as a town read. Now, scum usually have some town as town reads. That is not meaningful in itself, however, when it's coupled with the fact that he has a lot of posts that indicate that his town read on me is somewhat justifiable from a town perspective. If you would like, I'll quote them for you.

I'm not going to sheep you if you make a good case. I'll consider voting him if you make a good case. There's a big difference there.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 28 2013 06:37 GMT
#480
Malongo is playing oddly different from his town games. Usually he lurks and is completely useless. I'm not sure what changed this time around.

Anyone have any questions for me to answer? I'm gonna try and dive some filters now.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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