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On July 28 2013 04:00 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:50 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 03:43 exarezee wrote:
Also, why is CJS not your top candidate anymore? He's on the same level as all my other reads that are relatively useless and post fluff. He has somewhat redeemed himself in my eyes with his conversation prodding you. I'm trying to lynch scum and you are the closest thing to scum for me right now. Have you read the thread thoroughly? CJS has had more than one good conversation and has been by far the most useful town player in this game. If CJS is scum then he deserves a medal for this day 1 play. Also, has this exchange with Exar made him look at all less scummy to you?
I wasn't even saying CJS is a scumread for me right now...
Nope, still scum on exarezee. His responses look like a feeble attempt to save face.
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On July 28 2013 03:52 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 03:50 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 03:43 exarezee wrote:
Also, why is CJS not your top candidate anymore? He's on the same level as all my other reads that are relatively useless and post fluff. He has somewhat redeemed himself in my eyes with his conversation prodding you. I'm trying to lynch scum and you are the closest thing to scum for me right now. Well, I've shown that three of your statements about me that are part of your case are completely wrong. 1. I did say something about koshi 2. I'm not trying to distance myself from you and throw soft accusations at you. 3. I had 3 people lean town on me when I made the post saying several people had town reads on me. You got anything else?
You picked and chose the point that you felt were easier to defend.
1. I was talking about why you hadn't pursued Koshi. If you are scum, it is useful to make note of. Koshi is a possible scumbuddy of yours.
2. You are just saying you aren't doing something that I say you're doing. There is no evidence to back up your defense. It's like I went, "You did this, this. and this." and you are like, "Nope. I didn't. Ha! Take that!".
3. This isn't even a significant part of my post. I also said "if I recall correctly", meaning I wasn't entirely sure.
Can you address the meat of my post instead of dodging everything?
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On July 28 2013 04:07 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:00 hzflank wrote:On July 28 2013 03:50 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 03:43 exarezee wrote:
Also, why is CJS not your top candidate anymore? He's on the same level as all my other reads that are relatively useless and post fluff. He has somewhat redeemed himself in my eyes with his conversation prodding you. I'm trying to lynch scum and you are the closest thing to scum for me right now. Have you read the thread thoroughly? CJS has had more than one good conversation and has been by far the most useful town player in this game. If CJS is scum then he deserves a medal for this day 1 play. Also, has this exchange with Exar made him look at all less scummy to you? I wasn't even saying CJS is a scumread for me right now... Nope, still scum on exarezee. His responses look like a feeble attempt to save face.
If you actually believe that and are a townsman, I feel sorry for you.
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I copied all your posts and addressed each of them. What am i picking and choosing?
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FT, thoughts on justanothertownie?
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Do you want me to copy and paste my big post for you to see again?
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On July 28 2013 04:14 exarezee wrote:
I copied all your posts and addressed each of them. What am i picking and choosing?
I'm going to copy and paste all the parts of my post that you chose not to address to make it abundantly clear for you that you did pick and choose what to answer.
Look at how he INSISTS that both are probably not scum. If he was town, he'd be pushing his scumreads like there's no tomorrow (See: Clarity). He wouldn't be trying to create an out for when Paperscraps or I flip town and he has nothing to fall back on.
Another post saying that he isn't even all that convinced that paperscraps is scum. If he's not sure if Paperscraps is scum, why is he voting him? For information? On Day 1? That's absurd.
This logic also is very scum-esque because of how it sets up scum in future days. Assuming Paperscraps and I are both town and Paperscraps is lynched, exarezee can quote this post and go, "Well, I said I was sure one of them was scum, I wasn't sure which one. FirmTofu must be scum guys."
Another post insuring himself against my town flip. He knows I will flip town, so he is planning ahead for when I flip by saying, "I'm sorry if I'm wrong".
That's only a sample. You've ignored more parts as well. You also didn't quote any evidence to support your defense. All of it is just, "I didn't do that!" and "Nope. You're wrong."
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On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie?
Give me some time yo.
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I this point I would like to continue on day 2 with the people actively posting in this thread. Only one guy looking bad over the entire line. But I don't think he is scum anymore.
Still around 30 hours left to see some posts from the inactives.
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I'm tired of you guys who don't read the thread spout out things about what I've said. You're the 4th person TOFU. 4th person to say inaccurate things about me. Read the damn thread and make correct statements about me to espouse your point of view. I'm sick and tired of having to correct these things. If you think I"m scum because "hey exarzee is scum because townspersons don't do this" that's fine. but I'm tired of defending myself from stupid bullshit. it's just a waste of my time.
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On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:Give me some time yo.
Well, my filter isn't exactly huge....
I would like to repeat my earlier request:
On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad?
Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...
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Oh, sorry didn't read your last post... still want to hear your reasoning - why did you change your mind?
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@Tofu
Look at how he INSISTS that both are probably not scum. If he was town, he'd be pushing his scumreads like there's no tomorrow (See: Clarity). He wouldn't be trying to create an out for when Paperscraps or I flip town and he has nothing to fall back on.
I don't think two scum can make the play that you and paper made day 1. It's an assumption. I don't insist on this. I just think it's pretty unlikely you are both scum. I've pushed my scumread on paperscraps. Why do I need to fall back on anything? Should we lynch you tomorrow if you lynch me and I turn town? This is a partial information game, we're never going to be always right.
Another post saying that he isn't even all that convinced that paperscraps is scum. If he's not sure if Paperscraps is scum, why is he voting him? For information? On Day 1? That's absurd. This logic also is very scum-esque because of how it sets up scum in future days. Assuming Paperscraps and I are both town and Paperscraps is lynched, exarezee can quote this post and go, "Well, I said I was sure one of them was scum, I wasn't sure which one. FirmTofu must be scum guys."
I THINK YOU OR PAPERSCRAPS IS A SCUM. This is why I am voting paperscraps. This is why I would like you to be the other wagon. What logic is scumesque? We have to assume you and paper are both town and I am scum for this to be scummy. This information is not readily available I'm afraid. So I don't see where my faulty logic is.
Another post insuring himself against my town flip. He knows I will flip town, so he is planning ahead for when I flip by saying, "I'm sorry if I'm wrong".
What the hell is this shit? I'm not trying to insure myself of anything. again, this logic is based on knowing I am scum and you are both towns. Then what you say has merit.
Look at my case and pretend that I am a townsperson. Is my logic wrong somewhere or incoherent?
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Tofu's whole case against me is basically: well if exarzee is scum, this is a great way to get 2 villagers on a bandwagon. And he's leaving himself outs in case one of them turns town, he can get the other one lynched. Yea, this is not a bad theory, in fact perfectly logical. BUT you can't use this to support that I'm scum. That is completely circular logic.
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I'm null on JAT right now. He has me as a town read but a lot of his filter looks like he's trying to "fit in". Like he said himself, his filter isn't that big. I think if we get him to start positing more, it'll be easy to determine his alignment.
No, I would not lynch him today Oats. Not unless you make a good case against him.
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I'm going to switch over to my other game for a bit. I'll pop in from time to time to catch up on the thread though.
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On July 28 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 04:19 FirmTofu wrote:On July 28 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT, thoughts on justanothertownie? Give me some time yo. Well, my filter isn't exactly huge.... I would like to repeat my earlier request: Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Would you mind explaining why i am on your lynch list koshi? Why do you think my posts are so bad? Please explain yourself. You just stated I am scummy and provided absolutely no reasoning for that to be the case. Other than that you aren't scumhunting at all...
Oh I missed that question earlier.
I was wrong about you. I don't think you are scummy anymore.
I thought you were scummy because of your first 2 posts. But now it seems more like you didn't had a good feel into this game yet and tried your luck with making 2 cases.
I am actually leaning town on you now.
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On July 28 2013 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
So anyway about Vayne, he is playing this game totally different from his sole scumgame on site, serious play there, got into a egobitch fight with marv and yeah. None of that here. At all. Meta says he aint scum.
Of course, he might just be really good and faking the bullshit but I dont see why he needs to draw attention to himself when he can play perfectly competent town when he rolls scum.
Actually that is wrong I have another scum game.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67925
I am BlindAlbino and post nothing but bullshit the entire game!
Meta broken. Ka-CHOw
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Yeah I'm just going to ignore everything VA says for the rest of the game. Sounds good?
@FirmTofu: Why in the bloody hell are you calling my play useless? You're the one who made 6-7 posts at the beginning of the game and then said "peace out". You are in no position to say I've been useless, because I haven't.
Oatsmaster, please stop posting one-liners and unhelpful things, it's continuing to look very scummy. Perhaps you should interact with other townies and their cases instead of asking everyone to comment on your case like some dog begging for its' next meal.
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Sorry this start date was really bad for me. I'll be here in full tomorrow. It's a friend's birthday and my day off so I can't even play at work 
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