Titanic Mini Mafia! - Page 20

On July 27 2013 19:34 Clarity_nl wrote:


FirmTofu would like us all to actually discuss the game, instead of all this fluff that's going on, like everyone talking about the lurker lynch policy!
Granted, this post might have been in context with Koshi's 1,2,3 posts, but that was Koshi trying to prove a point.

Firmtofu before this point however, did not discuss anything other than lurker lynch policy:

On July 27 2013 19:34 Clarity_nl wrote:


"I am voting for you, and I will keep my vote on you until you do X!"

This is not a vote to kill scum, this is a vote to have a vote on someone, and he backs off the moment his demands are met.



Not only does he back off the moment he's able to, he's also wishy-washy about the case itself.

On July 27 2013 19:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
But the most troubling things I found were his last two posts:



Notice how he explains that he's having a hard time reading CJS because of his roleplay, and Paperscraps would be a good lynch too because he's hard to read. That's all well and good, pressure them to be more easier to read, but the mindset is revealed in the part I bolded.
He first claims that if he had to lynch someone it would be CJS or Paper because they're currently hard to read, but now he's suddenly saying he's suspicious that they're scum? why?

Then he throws a random unsolicited townread into his post, because scum love giving townreads.

On July 27 2013 19:34 Clarity_nl wrote:


This post is the epitome of useless. Instead of focusing on the information we do have, Firm decides to point out that there's no point in scumhunting because for all we know all the people who haven't posted are scum.

FirmTofu is pretty likely scum and our best lynch right now.

On July 28 2013 01:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Oats is really doing his best in this regard...

On July 28 2013 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:

Sigh. Because you try to make it look like you are really contributing and scumhunting while you just repeat the same things all over again without bringing any good points.
Let's just assume i was not in the game - who would you want to lynch?

To finish, I liked the way that a lot of votes were thrown around early and I see benefit in continuing to do this, as it will provide extra information in the future. Since I think that Paperscraps is the scummiest player so far:

On July 28 2013 02:01 hzflank wrote:


Too obvious. If scum wanted a messy thread then they would give town reasons to make it messy but they would not do it themselves. Also, Oats' recent posts have made it much easier to get reads on him than his early posts did.

On July 28 2013 02:07 Clarity_nl wrote:


I've made this mistake before in a game where I called someone town because he, for like 72 hours, with one scum left in the game, would not stop talking about setup speculation. I thought he couldnt possibly be this obvious so this is just a dumb townie. Turns out he was the last scum.

Am I saying oats is scum? Not really.... but he did make the last 2-3 pages a complete clusterfuck which is anti town behavior and if he continues we should lynch or vigi that shit.
Oats, you can ask questions and push stuff without making everything around you a slog to read through.

On July 28 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
His whole filter is generally him trying not to step on anyones toes.

On July 28 2013 02:12 FirmTofu wrote:
As much as I dislike Clarity for misrepresenting my words, I am guilty of his behavior as town in past games. I am leaning town on Clarity right now for this reason.

I find it odd that hzflank soft-defended me by talking a lot about how Clarity included a quote from hzflank on his case against me. It feels like hzflank is trying to distance himself from the lynch if I were to get voted, thus firmly establishing himself as an opposing force who wanted to save the townie. The only way I see this happening is if hzflank knows I am town and is acting on that knowledge to make himself look more townie.

Who knows I am town? Scum.

On July 28 2013 02:12 hzflank wrote:


While you may have some points regarding my first post, the above comment is absolute rubbish. Not only have I been happy to step on toes but I have been very obvious about it.

Also, when you say my whole filter, did you miss the parts where I question people in an attempt to move things along?

On July 27 2013 22:02 exarezee wrote:


Ok, this post is really bothering me now. Wants to get down to business...but also is bogging the game down with the lurker discussion. Like really pushing the discussion from the get-go.

On July 27 2013 22:25 exarezee wrote:
I think paperscraps and firmtofu are a good 1,2 wagon combo for day 1.

I don't think both are scum, but I think its a high chance one of the two are. Really strange initial votes on me by both of them. I don't understand why I had to be voted because I didn't provide a reason for a tone read I made. Paperscrap's vote is even more bewildering because he states he was "joking in all his posts." So, if they were townies making these votes I would have to assume they are trying to see if anybody jumps on my bandwagon and gain some information from it....but then they really quickly unvote. Just really strange town play IMO. Really can't see this being done as a scum/scum combo. It draws a little too much attention. Again, could be town/town, but I think its really likely a scum/town combo here.

On July 28 2013 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

wanna quote some post where you step on some dudes toes?

On July 27 2013 23:24 hzflank wrote:


But which of them do you think is most likely scum?

If I were scum I would love to see a town post that he would like the vote to be between a specific two people. So to me either your post was more useful to scum than to town, or you are scum. I am leaning towards the former, so please answer the question.

On July 28 2013 00:18 hzflank wrote:


How does multiple people suspecting someone make that person town?

On July 28 2013 00:32 hzflank wrote:


No one asked for a list. A name and a reason would be good enough.

On July 28 2013 01:16 hzflank wrote:


I do not agree with this at all. Playing around is not an alignment tell. It is just as easy to make jokes or think things are jokes as either alignment. It might be a personality tell, but that is all.

On July 28 2013 02:28 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm going to consolidate and post a case on exarezee. There is a wealth of scummy shit that he's been doing.

On July 27 2013 23:53 exarezee wrote:


You're exactly right. Scum would ideally want two town wagons Day 1. That's why we wagon paper and tofu......you really think they are town/town with their interactions with me day 1?

On July 28 2013 02:30 FirmTofu wrote:

WTF? Bolded and big'd obvious scumslip. How did no one catch this?

On July 28 2013 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
So anyway about Vayne, he is playing this game totally different from his sole scumgame on site, serious play there, got into a egobitch fight with marv and yeah. None of that here. At all. Meta says he aint scum.

Of course, he might just be really good and faking the bullshit but I dont see why he needs to draw attention to himself when he can play perfectly competent town when he rolls scum.