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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 04 2013 16:00 GMT
#4001
On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:

I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.

Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.

I just said why your case is fucking awful.

And if Im not helping town with this, then what? What should we discuss oh esteemed Clarity_nl?
No gg, No skill.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 16:01 GMT
#4002
On August 05 2013 01:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.


I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)

On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up.

AND YOU HAVENT.
Now either back it up or take it back.


I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.

Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.

Why would they not hit you and vanilla!vayne instead?


Yep, true. Was hoping someone who I didn't consider confirmed town would answer honestly

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On August 05 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.

Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?


If you think he's scum you shouldn't try to convince him that he's scum.

One at a time buddy...trying to lynch the entire scum team at once didn't really work for us D3
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 16:01 GMT
#4003
Sorry Clarity i thought you were asking me that
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 16:02 GMT
#4004
On August 05 2013 01:01 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.


I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)

On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up.

AND YOU HAVENT.
Now either back it up or take it back.


I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.

Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.

Why would they not hit you and vanilla!vayne instead?


Yep, true. Was hoping someone who I didn't consider confirmed town would answer honestly

On August 05 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.

Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?


If you think he's scum you shouldn't try to convince him that he's scum.

One at a time buddy...trying to lynch the entire scum team at once didn't really work for us D3

Actually it did quite well, only reversed.

Tomorrow´s lynch should be no other than THE KOSHI!
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 16:03 GMT
#4005
Can everyone who is town stop justifying why we voted XRZ and leave it until post game.

Also, can we stop attacking people if we think that they are confirmed town.

Lets win this game, now.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 16:03 GMT
#4006
Also this is why you don´t do over phase change shenanigans unless you are going to hold on them under any circumstances. It fucks you over. :/
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IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 16:03 GMT
#4007
On August 05 2013 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:
No, it is just that I thought what hz said (the whole speculation stuff) made sense at that time and if xrz was town it would come to the current situation which didn't made much sense to me because I know I'm not scum and there are only a few other possibilities none of which I really thought are likely so I figured xrz might be scum. It was bad reasoning but it was my reasoning.


So instead of thinking about your town read on XRZ for the first 2 days, you decided to 180 your read just off of what hz said?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#4008
Literally the first half of D3 was persecuting XRZ with bad logic and the second half was "1/2/3/4 are scum, we're voting them next"

Worst. Lynch. Ever.
Ok that's the end of me talking about the XRZ lynch.
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 04 2013 16:05 GMT
#4009
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#4010
On August 05 2013 01:03 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:
No, it is just that I thought what hz said (the whole speculation stuff) made sense at that time and if xrz was town it would come to the current situation which didn't made much sense to me because I know I'm not scum and there are only a few other possibilities none of which I really thought are likely so I figured xrz might be scum. It was bad reasoning but it was my reasoning.


So instead of thinking about your town read on XRZ for the first 2 days, you decided to 180 your read just off of what hz said?

Yes. I should add that it wasn't a very strong town read but in essence this is correct.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#4011
On August 05 2013 01:04 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Literally the first half of D3 was persecuting XRZ with bad logic and the second half was "1/2/3/4 are scum, we're voting them next"

Worst. Lynch. Ever.
Ok that's the end of me talking about the XRZ lynch.

Actually we got quite a lot out of it.
- FirmTofu´s post regarding who is scum with/without XRZ was really horrible. There was zero logic in it.
- Koshi´s been bad and scummy throughout the game and i tried to lynch him on D1 and D2 (that´s also a reason i didn´t think Malongo was mafia). I don´t even bother to recheck the quotes/posts because everyone knows that´s a fact.
- JAT makes no sense with his logic right now. He says he does not think Stutters/FT are both scum but everyone else are town but Koshi. That kinda makes himself scum no?
- Stutters is still meh.. On the other hand he looks good for pushing same targets i have (mainly FT & Koshi eariler, D3 is irrelevant now), but then him sayin he voted for XRZ because of "pre-flip associations" is bullshit. The case was not a pre-flip association, definitely not. Other things on D3 were, but the case was not. Either way he didn´t even understand the case (so his vote makes no sense), or he is mafia who is now trying to justify his vote.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#4012
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 16:12 GMT
#4013
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#4014
On August 05 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:04 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Literally the first half of D3 was persecuting XRZ with bad logic and the second half was "1/2/3/4 are scum, we're voting them next"

Worst. Lynch. Ever.
Ok that's the end of me talking about the XRZ lynch.

Actually we got quite a lot out of it.
- FirmTofu´s post regarding who is scum with/without XRZ was really horrible. There was zero logic in it.
- Koshi´s been bad and scummy throughout the game and i tried to lynch him on D1 and D2 (that´s also a reason i didn´t think Malongo was mafia). I don´t even bother to recheck the quotes/posts because everyone knows that´s a fact.
- JAT makes no sense with his logic right now. He says he does not think Stutters/FT are both scum but everyone else are town but Koshi. That kinda makes himself scum no?
- Stutters is still meh.. On the other hand he looks good for pushing same targets i have (mainly FT & Koshi eariler, D3 is irrelevant now), but then him sayin he voted for XRZ because of "pre-flip associations" is bullshit. The case was not a pre-flip association, definitely not. Other things on D3 were, but the case was not. Either way he didn´t even understand the case (so his vote makes no sense), or he is mafia who is now trying to justify his vote.

Please at least read what I'm saying. It is probably Koshi + FT/Stutters + oats right now.
But we can only lynch one of them.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#4015
lol, i don´t know what to make out of that comment..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#4016
JAT do you think mafia has a godfather?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 16:14 GMT
#4017
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.


lol.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
August 04 2013 16:15 GMT
#4018
On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this

Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#4019
On August 05 2013 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this

Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.


Pretty sure the consensus was to lynch Koshi.
Are you shaking in your little scum booties?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#4020
On August 05 2013 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 01:12 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 01:05 Stutters695 wrote:
Trying to catch up on breaks at work since the thread popped a little. Oats is town because he doesn't give a shit. It's simple.

If he is scum he doesn't need to give a shit because town is heading towards a lose.

Did you really just say this

Yes, I did. If you lynch me we lose. At the moment to me it looks like everyone is dead certain I'm scum.


Then why do you think it should be Stutter's job to convince us otherwise? That's your job. You have time as no one is currently advocating your day 4 lynch.
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