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Well if Oats is town...
This vote count was posted exactly 20 minutes before Malongo self-voted. With Oats as town you can see exactly why Malongo self-voted.
On July 31 2013 09:29 Aquanim wrote:
Current votecount:
Koshi (5)
Oatsmaster, Clarity_nl, raynpelikoneet, hzflank, exarezee
justanothertownie (3)
Malongo, VayneAuthority, FirmTofu
Malongo (1)
IMCaptainJackSparrow
FirmTofu (1)
Stutters695
exarezee (1)
Koshi
Not voting
justanothertownie
Tell me if I missed anyone. Deadlne is in !
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You think Malongo martyred to try and save Koshi?
It's not the worst thought.....
Ima do some reading, back later.
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Oats does not push crazy conspiracy theories (vayne being a cop instead of me), Koshi does.
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On August 05 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think Oats his play on its own makes him looks like scum to me.
Why? Totally bullshit clarity.
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On August 05 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats does not push crazy conspiracy theories (vayne being a cop instead of me), Koshi does.
If pushing crazy conspiracy theories made people scum I'd have hung you a long time ago rayn.
It also, obviously, was not that crazy.
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When you look at that above vote count, consider that I think that FT and Stutters are unlikely to both be scum.
They were both willing to lynch each other D2 and it seemed genuine to me.
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On August 05 2013 00:28 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think Oats his play on its own makes him looks like scum to me. Why? Totally bullshit clarity.
You have a way of entering and leaving the thread without affecting anything the town does.
I can easily explain hz's thoughts during the game, or rayn's, or even cora's. But you, I have no idea what you've been doing ever since n1. I'd have to look at your filter.
I think I recall you saying stutters is scum, but I can't recall a single thing you've said to support or push that idea.
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My point is oats I haven't seen you put any thought into this game at any point. You just kinda randomly enter the thread, ask questions about what's currently happening instead of finding out yourself, and then you leave with some random remark on a single post that has nothing to do with what people are currently talking about.
This is the only thing that you said about your scumread on me clarity.
So all my analysis explaining why JAT might be scum, Paper/FT is town, nightkills are weird as shit isnt thought?
Dude. Why are you calling me scum?
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On August 05 2013 00:29 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats does not push crazy conspiracy theories (vayne being a cop instead of me), Koshi does. If pushing crazy conspiracy theories made people scum I'd have hung you a long time ago rayn. It also, obviously, was not that crazy.
Apparently people (including mafia) think very differently than i do this game. Oats is a pretty straightforward player. He would, as mafia, see why i am not fakeclaiming a check on vayne.
Koshi does this and i can prove that. Also Koshi has quised himself as way more dumb this game than he actually is. That guy figured Chezinu´s cryptic posts in Sicilian as him claiming DT.
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Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.
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So, I thought about the Koshi/FT question.
I'm torn. They both look very scummy to me. What throws me off is that I don't think Stutters and FT are on the same scum team so it is not as easy as it could be after this flip. This would mean Koshi would be a better target because he is scum in almost every possible scenario.
Still I read Stutters and Tofus Filter again and while Stutters does not look bad in my opinion FTs filter almost screams scum. Just look at his contribution since his almost-lynch - doesn't look very townie, does it?
Then there is this:
On August 03 2013 08:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, this is where I stand.
If XRZ flips town:
I think it's probably JAT, Stutters, rayn/Clarity/Koshi.
rayn could be lying about the cop claim, but I'm deferring to hz's best judgement on this. I have to agree that no cop is pretty unlikely so until another claim comes up, rayn could still be town.
If XRZ flips scum:
I think it's probably CJS, JAT, Koshi, maybe Stutters.
When you look at his reads concerning a xrz town flip there is me (town - I know it is not obvious for you in this situation), Stutters (I'm not sure here) and especially this: rayn/clarity/Koshi.
It should DEFINITELY be Koshi and just Koshi. I don't know why he feels the need to add rayn and clarity here. Keep in mind this is his xrz town scenario. Total bullshit.
Since pre-flip stuff didn't work that well the last time I think I would slightly prefer a FT lynch. I would hate if we lost and he escaped the lynch 3 times while being scum.
But honestly I am still down for both a Koshi and a FT lynch.
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On August 05 2013 00:34 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 05 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think Oats his play on its own makes him looks like scum to me. Why? Totally bullshit clarity. I think I recall you saying stutters is scum, but I can't recall a single thing you've said to support or push that idea.
I didnt say anything about stutters being scum. So why is this a point against me?
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On August 05 2013 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:So, I thought about the Koshi/FT question. I'm torn. They both look very scummy to me. What throws me off is that I don't think Stutters and FT are on the same scum team so it is not as easy as it could be after this flip. This would mean Koshi would be a better target because he is scum in almost every possible scenario. Still I read Stutters and Tofus Filter again and while Stutters does not look bad in my opinion FTs filter almost screams scum. Just look at his contribution since his almost-lynch - doesn't look very townie, does it? Then there is this: Show nested quote +On August 03 2013 08:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, this is where I stand.
If XRZ flips town:
I think it's probably JAT, Stutters, rayn/Clarity/Koshi.
rayn could be lying about the cop claim, but I'm deferring to hz's best judgement on this. I have to agree that no cop is pretty unlikely so until another claim comes up, rayn could still be town.
If XRZ flips scum:
I think it's probably CJS, JAT, Koshi, maybe Stutters.
When you look at his reads concerning a xrz town flip there is me (town - I know it is not obvious for you in this situation), Stutters (I'm not sure here) and especially this: rayn/clarity/Koshi. It should DEFINITELY be Koshi and just Koshi. I don't know why he feels the need to add rayn and clarity here. Keep in mind this is his xrz town scenario. Total bullshit. Since pre-flip stuff didn't work that well the last time I think I would slightly prefer a FT lynch. I would hate if we lost and he escaped the lynch 3 times while being scum. But honestly I am still down for both a Koshi and a FT lynch.
I´m a bit puzzled over this post of yours because if FT and Stutters are both not scum, that means you kinda have to be scum?
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On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.
Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.
Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.
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On August 05 2013 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:34 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 05 2013 00:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 05 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think Oats his play on its own makes him looks like scum to me. Why? Totally bullshit clarity. I think I recall you saying stutters is scum, but I can't recall a single thing you've said to support or push that idea. I didnt say anything about stutters being scum. So why is this a point against me?
On August 02 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
guys, stutters is scum.
Sorry? Or are you going to explain how you were joking now?
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If Rayn is town then Koshi and JAT are scum, with the remaining scum being FT or Stutters.
Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different.
Doesn't matter though. I think that you are town based on what Rayne said, Based on Koshi being more scum, and also based on you not being attacked. If Koshi or JAT were town they should of hit you hard already on N3, but they did not.
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On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum. Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me. Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.
If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?
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On August 05 2013 00:39 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 05 2013 00:34 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 05 2013 00:28 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 05 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think Oats his play on its own makes him looks like scum to me. Why? Totally bullshit clarity. I think I recall you saying stutters is scum, but I can't recall a single thing you've said to support or push that idea. I didnt say anything about stutters being scum. So why is this a point against me? Sorry? Or are you going to explain how you were joking now?
i meant explanation. I never explained in detail why/how stutters is scum.
bad wording.
So now explain yourself clarity.
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On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum. Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me. Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.
I don´t have to point out anything Koshi has said because he is mafia and what he says has nothing to do with what i have to say about stutters.
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On August 05 2013 00:40 hzflank wrote:
Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different.#
Do you think my scumreads are right?
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