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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:42 GMT
#3981
On August 05 2013 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:
So, I thought about the Koshi/FT question.
I'm torn. They both look very scummy to me. What throws me off is that I don't think Stutters and FT are on the same scum team so it is not as easy as it could be after this flip. This would mean Koshi would be a better target because he is scum in almost every possible scenario.
Still I read Stutters and Tofus Filter again and while Stutters does not look bad in my opinion FTs filter almost screams scum. Just look at his contribution since his almost-lynch - doesn't look very townie, does it?
Then there is this:
On August 03 2013 08:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Alright, this is where I stand.

If XRZ flips town:
I think it's probably JAT, Stutters, rayn/Clarity/Koshi.
rayn could be lying about the cop claim, but I'm deferring to hz's best judgement on this. I have to agree that no cop is pretty unlikely so until another claim comes up, rayn could still be town.

If XRZ flips scum:
I think it's probably CJS, JAT, Koshi, maybe Stutters.

When you look at his reads concerning a xrz town flip there is me (town - I know it is not obvious for you in this situation), Stutters (I'm not sure here) and especially this: rayn/clarity/Koshi.
It should DEFINITELY be Koshi and just Koshi. I don't know why he feels the need to add rayn and clarity here. Keep in mind this is his xrz town scenario. Total bullshit.

Since pre-flip stuff didn't work that well the last time I think I would slightly prefer a FT lynch. I would hate if we lost and he escaped the lynch 3 times while being scum.

But honestly I am still down for both a Koshi and a FT lynch.

I´m a bit puzzled over this post of yours because if FT and Stutters are both not scum, that means you kinda have to be scum?

They shouldn't be scum together that's what I meant.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#3982
On August 05 2013 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On August 05 2013 00:40 hzflank wrote:
Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different.#

Do you think my scumreads are right?


Yep. You have probably nailed the entire scum team there. I think that there is a chance that you are wrong about one of them, but we can get to that later.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#3983
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 04 2013 15:45 GMT
#3984
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up.

AND YOU HAVENT.
Now either back it up or take it back.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 15:46 GMT
#3985
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 15:48 GMT
#3986
On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.


I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)

On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up.

AND YOU HAVENT.
Now either back it up or take it back.


I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.

Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#3987
On August 05 2013 00:40 hzflank wrote:
If Rayn is town then Koshi and JAT are scum, with the remaining scum being FT or Stutters.

Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different.

Doesn't matter though. I think that you are town based on what Rayne said, Based on Koshi being more scum, and also based on you not being attacked. If Koshi or JAT were town they should of hit you hard already on N3, but they did not.

Why does that mean I am scum? Maybe I just didn't want to make the same mistake of trying to name a whole scumteam again? Yes, oats being scum would be one possible solution for the current situation especially since scum obviously didn't take rayns claim seriously so oats is far from confirmed town but we should concentrate on one lynch target not three.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 15:49 GMT
#3988
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:53 GMT
#3989
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 15:53 GMT
#3990
On August 05 2013 00:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:40 hzflank wrote:
If Rayn is town then Koshi and JAT are scum, with the remaining scum being FT or Stutters.

Oats, dont take it personally but I agreed with Clarity's assessment of you. You have not seemed to really push your scum reads enough to make me confident that you are town. You also attacked townies for their voting without seeming to consider that majority lynch forces voting to be different.

Doesn't matter though. I think that you are town based on what Rayne said, Based on Koshi being more scum, and also based on you not being attacked. If Koshi or JAT were town they should of hit you hard already on N3, but they did not.

Why does that mean I am scum? Maybe I just didn't want to make the same mistake of trying to name a whole scumteam again? Yes, oats being scum would be one possible solution for the current situation especially since scum obviously didn't take rayns claim seriously so oats is far from confirmed town but we should concentrate on one lynch target not three.


If you are town then you must either think that Oats is scum or think that FT and Stutters are both scum. In addition to that you must think that Koshi is scum. This is because we have so many confirmed town.

The fact that you neither pushed Oats nor immediately preferred a Koshi lynch to an FT lynch makes me think that you are scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 15:55 GMT
#3991
Cora, do you think that Clarity, Rayn and myself are town? If so, there are only 4 possible people who can be scum (you think Oats is town), and those 4 include FT and Stutters. If FT and Stutters are not scum together then Koshi and JAT are scum.

I am totally down for a Koshi lynch. Anyone want to give me a good reason to not lynch Koshi?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
August 04 2013 15:56 GMT
#3992
Well, you are wrong and I'm ok with both koshi and FT because if it's between FT and Stutters then I am fairly certain it's FT who is scum.
Oats is the most likely last scum but why do I have to push that if we only lynch one person today? Fine if you want to lynch Koshi you have my vote and I recall saying he is scum in almost any possible scenario so don't twist my words please.
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 15:57 GMT
#3993
On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.

Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 15:58 GMT
#3994
On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.


I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up.

AND YOU HAVENT.
Now either back it up or take it back.


I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.

Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.

Why would they not hit you and vanilla!vayne instead?
table for two on a tv tray
IMCaptainJackSparrow
Profile Joined July 2013
Bahamas303 Posts
August 04 2013 15:58 GMT
#3995
On August 05 2013 00:55 hzflank wrote:
Cora, do you think that Clarity, Rayn and myself are town? If so, there are only 4 possible people who can be scum (you think Oats is town), and those 4 include FT and Stutters. If FT and Stutters are not scum together then Koshi and JAT are scum.

I am totally down for a Koshi lynch. Anyone want to give me a good reason to not lynch Koshi?

I just stated my "scumteam"...

Koshi/JAT/Stutters/Malongo
"You will remember this day as the day that you ALMOST caught Captain Jack Sparrow."
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 04 2013 15:59 GMT
#3996
I am going to post this again, sorry if you do not like it.

Malongo might of self-voted in an attempt to just save himself, but he was not even under the most pressure at the time. He only had one vote on himself. Why did he self vote?

Look at this:

On July 31 2013 09:29 Aquanim wrote:
Current votecount:

Koshi (5)
Oatsmaster, Clarity_nl, raynpelikoneet, hzflank, exarezee

justanothertownie (3)
Malongo, VayneAuthority, FirmTofu

Malongo (1)
IMCaptainJackSparrow

FirmTofu (1)
Stutters695

exarezee (1)
Koshi

Not voting
justanothertownie

Tell me if I missed anyone. Deadlne is in !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 04 2013 15:59 GMT
#3997
On August 05 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.

Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?

Corazon, i do not think the XRZ lynch was bad. At least every townie is on the same page now and i really thought he was mafia.

I agree with your reads, all of them.
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 04 2013 16:00 GMT
#3998
On August 05 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 00:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

I don´t think that´s the case here. Mafia thought vayne + XRZ are cops. You being a doc fit´s nowhere in there as hzflank is vet. I don´t think scum would assume 4 power roles, unlkess you actually area doc in which case mafia having a GF + roleblocker is not 100% out of the question.


I meant that I'm a doc instead of vayne being a cop. So like, they expected me to protect you so they roleblock xrz and kill vayne (since hz is vet)

On August 05 2013 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oats, I have explained myself. You're the one that hasn't, all game.
I didn't even call you scum, I said based on your posts alone I would think you were scum, but there are other factors.
hz puts it nicely.

Are you saying you've pushed your reads and influenced town positively? Like, if we lynch two scum and can't find the third I'm looking your way. Although I'll probably be dead by then.

One random thought btw, to no one specific. Is it possible scum didn't kill rayn cause they think I'm doc?

Clarity, you cant say shit like 'oats look scum off his posts' without backing it up.

AND YOU HAVENT.
Now either back it up or take it back.


I have. If you refuse to read that's fine.
Do you think I'm town? You should.
Am I pushing for your lynch? I'm not.

Are you helping town by pushing this? You're not.

Why would they not hit you and vanilla!vayne instead?


Yep, true. Was hoping someone who I didn't consider confirmed town would answer honestly

On August 05 2013 00:57 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
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On August 05 2013 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:49 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:41 hzflank wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:39 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:
On August 05 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Stutters entrance in thread N3 screams scum.

Just like XRZ was scum and Malongo was 100% town. Right. I love how you point out only Stutters' entrance as being scummy when Koshi's entrance was way scummier and he only returned when there were 3 votes on him. That sounds like a defensive scum play to me.

Oats is town. The fact that he's not caring about anything is pretty consistent with his town meta. Don't get even farther off track with a possible Oats scum because it isn't possible.


If Oats is town then there are only 4 possible scum left. Do you see FT and Stutters both likely as being scum together?

I think it's very unlikely that FT and Stutters are on the same scumteam.

If I had to make a scumteam lineup, and I really hate to do this because it is stupid, I would put it at:

JAT/Stutters/Koshi/Malongo

There are way too many players that have played very similarly. It's the reason that we are facing MYLO (I think, I know we have one lynch left). These 4 players have all lurked at times, have not contributed to the scumhunt in a decent manner, and have generally been really useless for the entire game. Sure, their filters are long (most likely longer than mine), but they refuse to partake in discussion (especially over the last 2 days) and they refuse to weigh the circumstances of their vote. They just sheeped onto XRZ and allowed a townie to be lynched without giving it a second thought. Imagine if 2-3 players had been reading the thread and made an accurate decision instead of just going "It looks like XRZ is scum herp derp" and just agreeing with the same crappy heuristics that Rayn and company threw out.

Out of all of these players, I truly think Koshi is the scummiest and the most likely to flip scum should he be lynched. That's why I want to vote for him D4.

This just isn't true concerning me. If you read my filter you wouldn't say this.

Dude, your vote is even worse than Koshi's. In 5 posts, you go from "XRZ is town to me" to "XRZ is scum". The 5 posts inbetween were set-up speculation and using the same heuristics as everyone else who voted for XRZ. You even said that the thought process being used was ridiculous, yet you voted for XRC...scum trying to blend in?


If you think he's scum you shouldn't try to convince him that he's scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
justanothertownie
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No, it is just that I thought what hz said (the whole speculation stuff) made sense at that time and if xrz was town it would come to the current situation which didn't made much sense to me because I know I'm not scum and there are only a few other possibilities none of which I really thought are likely so I figured xrz might be scum. It was bad reasoning but it was my reasoning.
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