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Looking at malongo's filter now.
In his 1st post he says he's happy to vote captain jack because he's an attention smurf and for no other reason. Easy out for scum. Looks good for captain jack. Also in his 1st post, he votes for hzflank. The reason he is voting hzflank is because hzflank has a poor case on papers. Since we know that malongo knows papers is town, this is not a forced post. He doesn't have to make it up and can just dissect hzflank's argumen because he knows hzflank is wrong. Hzflank looks very good in this exchance.
On July 28 2013 16:09 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2013 15:33 Paperscraps wrote: @Oatsmaster I would like to hear your read on FT. I am bit cross at the moment. Tofu had no reason to defend me early on. If he were scum, what is the motivation behind doing this. He could actually town read me and scum read exar or being trying to look town by defending me. What are your thoughts?
@Malongo Good to see you posting. I am curious, do you have any town reads so far? I think most of the hyperactive players are more likely to be all town (see last post). From those the only guy that looked sort of fluffy was hzflank, though I didnt like the no lurker lynch idea from exarezee.
Again, he throws random suscpicion on hzflank.
On July 28 2013 16:38 Malongo wrote: Meh I still think hzflank is better lynch but I want to test how this turns out when I wake up. Night.
##Unvote ##Vote FirmTofu.
This post lessens the chance of FT being scum. FT lynch was definitely possible. Ok. he ends up moving to hzflank who had no chance of being lynched. I guess FT being scum is back to original status. Not indicative of hzflank role by voting him.
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I actually really thought that Malongo was town. Had me fooled... He so convincingly said that it was impossible that there was a red check, I still can't believe it. I do not know how you guys see through that shit.
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On August 02 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote: your last second claim was really bad but it worked out in the end somehow. Thought you were scum trying to secure the mislynch. If you are going to claim a red check you need to do it with a lot more authority than what you did. Almost screwed up my read
i've already explained why i waited. I thought for sure malongo was going to be voted off. I didn't WANT to claim. I HAD TO.
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No it still isn´t. Yes it has to do with meta, but it´s not an association case between you & Oats.
Your play drastically changed from "trying to figure things out" -> "not trying to figure things out". I dunno why that is so hard to understand.
lol Cora. I also said Malongo was scum when people were willing to vote for XRZ over him. What´s your point? I know you made a case on him, that does not make you town.
Fair enough, you think i am scum. I don´t give a shit tbh, because i am going to die at last on N3. Because i am going to lynch mafia!Oatsmaster on D3.
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I don't think anyone did. I just think his meta combined with his martyr made people go "well fuck this guy, he better be scum" No one should have that bad of a town meta, though
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On August 02 2013 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it still isn´t. Yes it has to do with meta, but it´s not an association case between you & Oats.
Your play drastically changed from "trying to figure things out" -> "not trying to figure things out". I dunno why that is so hard to understand.
lol Cora. I also said Malongo was scum when people were willing to vote for XRZ over him. What´s your point? I know you made a case on him, that does not make you town.
Fair enough, you think i am scum. I don´t give a shit tbh, because i am going to die at last on N3. Because i am going to lynch mafia!Oatsmaster on D3. I thought I was going to be lynched tomorrow?
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On August 02 2013 02:42 Clarity_nl wrote:I don't think anyone did. I just think his meta combined with his martyr made people go "well fuck this guy, he better be scum" No one should have that bad of a town meta, though
wasn't just that tbh. look through his filter. his dumb list posts and following thread sentiment...that made me want to fake check him. The martyring was the last straw.
Anyways I agree with most of your assessments XRZ except the captain jack thing. I think that makes captain jack look bad.
One of oats or captain jack is scum for sure, maybe both but i doubt it
trying to figure out which one
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On August 02 2013 02:45 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it still isn´t. Yes it has to do with meta, but it´s not an association case between you & Oats.
Your play drastically changed from "trying to figure things out" -> "not trying to figure things out". I dunno why that is so hard to understand.
lol Cora. I also said Malongo was scum when people were willing to vote for XRZ over him. What´s your point? I know you made a case on him, that does not make you town.
Fair enough, you think i am scum. I don´t give a shit tbh, because i am going to die at last on N3. Because i am going to lynch mafia!Oatsmaster on D3. I thought I was going to be lynched tomorrow? Nah, Oats goes first. I´m far more convinced that he´s mafia than that you are.
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I flipped a coin, it's oats. Then I looked at the coin, it was heads.
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On August 02 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote: your last second claim was really bad but it worked out in the end somehow. Thought you were scum trying to secure the mislynch. If you are going to claim a red check you need to do it with a lot more authority than what you did. Almost screwed up my read i've already explained why i waited. I thought for sure malongo was going to be voted off. I didn't WANT to claim. I HAD TO.
But if you look at the situation from other people's perspective you should realize why other people did not immediately believe you. Heck, I still do not full believe you now, but it is not worth going into until after the night kill.
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On August 02 2013 03:02 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:On August 02 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote: your last second claim was really bad but it worked out in the end somehow. Thought you were scum trying to secure the mislynch. If you are going to claim a red check you need to do it with a lot more authority than what you did. Almost screwed up my read i've already explained why i waited. I thought for sure malongo was going to be voted off. I didn't WANT to claim. I HAD TO. But if you look at the situation from other people's perspective you should realize why other people did not immediately believe you. Heck, I still do not full believe you now, but it is not worth going into until after the night kill.
Nope. You weren't going to get a FirmTofu lynch without me. I had already stated I was not moving off Malongo. I could have just disappeared from the thread.
Let's pretend FirmTofu was going to be lynched without my help. The only reason I would fakeclaim on Malongo would be to save FirmTofu. Why would I do this if tofu were town? I'd just let him get lynched. Why would I do this if Tofu were scum? We would both get lynched. 1-2 trade in town's favor.
Not to mention if I were scum and malongo is town, malongo looks so bad and is going to be questioned every single day unless his posting level went up by over 9000. Why trade myself for malongo lol. It's not like he was going to help you guys win the game.
I see no reason to suspect why my claim was fake. And the fact that you are saying people should is absolutely strange.
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Oats why did you answer this:
On August 02 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats, be honest with me here. Did you or did you not understand my case on Ace in NWM N1? Could you answer it please?
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Forgot to mention. It would have also been a very likely mislynch yesterday.
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sorry again meant NO LYNCH
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XRZ his day 2 posting was very strange. I even called him out on the fact he hadn't a case on Malongo. The red check made his posting make sense. XRZ is like almost certain town, unless the entire thing was staged...
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Can someone who has a town read on FT explain to me why he is town? Other than "towwnslip dude".
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On August 02 2013 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can someone who has a town read on FT explain to me why he is town? Other than "towwnslip dude". To me he looks town because he looks at everybody and challenges everybody. He attacked XRZ, HZ, Clarity, Vivax. Discusses JAT, Malongo and you.
He makes a solid case on XRZ which is an unknown player and sticks to it for a long time.
Read page 2 and 3 in his filter. It's all there.
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On August 02 2013 03:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can someone who has a town read on FT explain to me why he is town? Other than "towwnslip dude". To me he looks town because he looks at everybody and challenges everybody. He attacked XRZ, HZ, Clarity, Vivax. Discusses JAT, Malongo and you. He makes a solid case on XRZ which is an unknown player and sticks to it for a long time. Read page 2 and 3 in his filter. It's all there. I don´t really know if attacking everybody is a town tell. It´s easy to promote a chaotic atmosphere by attacikng everybody. It´s also easy to look town early on in the game by that way, because you look like you are gaining information.
I don´t think his case on XRZ was solid at all, as somebody else (Vivax if i remember correctly) pointed out too. Actually FT called XRZ out for same stuff he did himself a couple of posts later. If it did make XRZ scum why does he do that too?
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