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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 01 2013 18:41 GMT
#3001
On August 02 2013 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 03:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 02 2013 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can someone who has a town read on FT explain to me why he is town? Other than "towwnslip dude".

To me he looks town because he looks at everybody and challenges everybody.
He attacked XRZ, HZ, Clarity, Vivax. Discusses JAT, Malongo and you.

He makes a solid case on XRZ which is an unknown player and sticks to it for a long time.

Read page 2 and 3 in his filter. It's all there.

I don´t really know if attacking everybody is a town tell. It´s easy to promote a chaotic atmosphere by attacikng everybody. It´s also easy to look town early on in the game by that way, because you look like you are gaining information.

I don´t think his case on XRZ was solid at all, as somebody else (Vivax if i remember correctly) pointed out too. Actually FT called XRZ out for same stuff he did himself a couple of posts later. If it did make XRZ scum why does he do that too?

Good question why he would do that as well as scum...
But I don't trust any of my reads here. I will live a couple more days, unless I get lynched lol, and then I will hopefully have a better look.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 01 2013 18:45 GMT
#3002
Because scum are more inconsistent, they make mistakes. If you are town and think something is scummy you don´t usually do that. Scum need to find bullshit reasons why townies do scummy stuff, because it´s not really scummy.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 01 2013 18:48 GMT
#3003
The only thing I know atm is that XRZ is town. But tomorrow I will be without town reads I guess... We will see. It's night. no hurry.
I had a good night of sleep.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 01 2013 19:05 GMT
#3004
On August 02 2013 03:19 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 03:02 hzflank wrote:
On August 02 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:
On August 02 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
your last second claim was really bad but it worked out in the end somehow. Thought you were scum trying to secure the mislynch. If you are going to claim a red check you need to do it with a lot more authority than what you did. Almost screwed up my read


i've already explained why i waited. I thought for sure malongo was going to be voted off. I didn't WANT to claim. I HAD TO.


But if you look at the situation from other people's perspective you should realize why other people did not immediately believe you. Heck, I still do not full believe you now, but it is not worth going into until after the night kill.


Nope. You weren't going to get a FirmTofu lynch without me. I had already stated I was not moving off Malongo. I could have just disappeared from the thread.

Let's pretend FirmTofu was going to be lynched without my help. The only reason I would fakeclaim on Malongo would be to save FirmTofu. Why would I do this if tofu were town? I'd just let him get lynched. Why would I do this if Tofu were scum? We would both get lynched. 1-2 trade in town's favor.

Not to mention if I were scum and malongo is town, malongo looks so bad and is going to be questioned every single day unless his posting level went up by over 9000. Why trade myself for malongo lol. It's not like he was going to help you guys win the game.

I see no reason to suspect why my claim was fake. And the fact that you are saying people should is absolutely strange.


Because before you claimed you were looking extremely suspect, and people needed some time to work things out. Just like when Vayne claimed.

Also, if you read the thread you would see this happening. And you are going to say that you were reading the thread / following the game...then you would know that Tofu was still going to be lynched without your claim because Vayne would of moved his vote to make 7.

hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 01 2013 19:08 GMT
#3005
On August 02 2013 03:48 Koshi wrote:
The only thing I know atm is that XRZ is town. But tomorrow I will be without town reads I guess... We will see. It's night. no hurry.


In all honesty, how do you know that?

XRZ is probably town (who will die tonight) but he still is not my strongest town read. If XRZ does not die tonight then you still need to look at him.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:12 GMT
#3006
On August 02 2013 04:05 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2013 03:19 exarezee wrote:
On August 02 2013 03:02 hzflank wrote:
On August 02 2013 02:40 exarezee wrote:
On August 02 2013 02:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
your last second claim was really bad but it worked out in the end somehow. Thought you were scum trying to secure the mislynch. If you are going to claim a red check you need to do it with a lot more authority than what you did. Almost screwed up my read


i've already explained why i waited. I thought for sure malongo was going to be voted off. I didn't WANT to claim. I HAD TO.


But if you look at the situation from other people's perspective you should realize why other people did not immediately believe you. Heck, I still do not full believe you now, but it is not worth going into until after the night kill.


Nope. You weren't going to get a FirmTofu lynch without me. I had already stated I was not moving off Malongo. I could have just disappeared from the thread.

Let's pretend FirmTofu was going to be lynched without my help. The only reason I would fakeclaim on Malongo would be to save FirmTofu. Why would I do this if tofu were town? I'd just let him get lynched. Why would I do this if Tofu were scum? We would both get lynched. 1-2 trade in town's favor.

Not to mention if I were scum and malongo is town, malongo looks so bad and is going to be questioned every single day unless his posting level went up by over 9000. Why trade myself for malongo lol. It's not like he was going to help you guys win the game.

Again, this does not address the reason why scum me would try to save scum tofu. 2-1 trade doesn't seem good for mafia does it?

I see no reason to suspect why my claim was fake. And the fact that you are saying people should is absolutely strange.


Because before you claimed you were looking extremely suspect, and people needed some time to work things out. Just like when Vayne claimed.

Also, if you read the thread you would see this happening. And you are going to say that you were reading the thread / following the game...then you would know that Tofu was still going to be lynched without your claim because Vayne would of moved his vote to make 7.


exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#3007
I was looking suspect? lololololololol. trolololol. I can't take this game seriously anymore. Town is fucking retarded. WTF would I try to save a scum FT to get us both lynched.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#3008
you all look fucking scummy to me: clarity, hzflank, oats, koshi, tofu.

only good town reads atm for me are: rayn, captain jack, vayne.

slight town lean on JAT
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 01 2013 19:18 GMT
#3009
On August 02 2013 04:14 exarezee wrote:
I was looking suspect? lololololololol. trolololol. I can't take this game seriously anymore. Town is fucking retarded. WTF would I try to save a scum FT to get us both lynched.


You cannot take this seriously? I cannot take seriously that so many people are not reading.

On August 01 2013 08:38 hzflank wrote:
Okay, Two things...

Exar may already of done some light breadcrumbing of his red check on Malongo. You can check his filter yourselves, might be something or nothing.

Secondly, why would scum-Exar do this? Only to save FT right? That's not 1-1 but rather 1-2.

We should lynch Mal because if he is green then we can get both Exar and FT afterwards.

##Unvote
##Vote: Malongo


I took the time to work through it and explained my conclusion, then people like you can along and try to question my motives while ignoring the motives that I have previously claimed to of had.

I have put plenty of effort into this game while half the town has just sat around and trolled, or decided to skip reading certain posts and just tunnel other discussions.

This is fucking stupid. Think about this from the perspective of anyone who did not know that you were town.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 01 2013 19:19 GMT
#3010
five of us look scummy to you? You're saying you weren't under pressure for the majority of day 2?

Could you explain your slight town read on JAT please?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:21 GMT
#3011
why do you not think im not 100% town right now? I bussed malongo to save FT why?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 01 2013 19:23 GMT
#3012
On August 02 2013 04:15 exarezee wrote:
you all look fucking scummy to me: clarity, hzflank, oats, koshi, tofu.

only good town reads atm for me are: rayn, captain jack, vayne.

slight town lean on JAT


Then you have no idea how to find scum. How the hell do you get strong town reads on those three people?

Vayne and GJS were right to vote for Mal early, but you need to look at their reasoning. heck, Vayne was not even voting for Mal because he thought that Mal was scum. As for you having a strong town read on Rayn...why are you so quick to believe that there are two cops in this game? Sure it is possible but it is not likely (there is no framer or miller).

CJS has barely been active and has spent the entire on N2 throwing useless shit at Rayn. Rayn has done a bunch of scummy stuff this game and all people are talking about is meta and things that do not even prove Rayn is scum.

You think Rayn is town and Clarity is scum? So you think that town has 2 cops and scum do not have a roleblocker? wtf.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
August 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#3013
On August 02 2013 04:21 exarezee wrote:
why do you not think im not 100% town right now? I bussed malongo to save FT why?


If FT is town then you are also town, so FT should have a strong town read on you but I should not. For all I know Mal, FT and you could all be scum. If you are town then you likely die tonight so it is not worth going into until D3.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:26 GMT
#3014
im done with you hzflank. you're god awful town player if ur town. im done trying to convince u. There is no reason for you to bluehunt like you've done this game. You've made 3 distinct posts regarding that.

Ur right I have no idea how to find scum. We'll go with ur reads then.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
August 01 2013 19:28 GMT
#3015
No, no, no. Just give us your reads please xrz. In the most detailed way possible before the deadline because he is right you are probably dieing tonight if you are town.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:28 GMT
#3016
To others re: hzflank

this is a guy who think he's 100% cleared because he's claimed vet. Yet I claim detective, claim a red peek. Peek is red. NO incentive to save other target. But I'm not cleared yet he is.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 01 2013 19:28 GMT
#3017
On August 02 2013 04:26 exarezee wrote:
im done with you hzflank. you're god awful town player if ur town. im done trying to convince u. There is no reason for you to bluehunt like you've done this game. You've made 3 distinct posts regarding that.

Ur right I have no idea how to find scum. We'll go with ur reads then.


You just made a list of alignment based statements and he clearly states why you are wrong.
Your reply to this is WELL FUCK YOU HZ YOU DONT KNOW SHIT.

How do I into town?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
August 01 2013 19:28 GMT
#3018
No need for speculation about your alignment before the night is over, no need for bad blood.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
August 01 2013 19:29 GMT
#3019
The last post was directed at xrz.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
August 01 2013 19:29 GMT
#3020
On August 02 2013 04:28 justanothertownie wrote:
No, no, no. Just give us your reads please xrz. In the most detailed way possible before the deadline because he is right you are probably dieing tonight if you are town.


I've given all my damn reads. I posted two long ass posts earlier.
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