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On August 01 2013 14:35 DeusXmachina wrote: Last post before I go to bed. Good to see more people are taking a stance against reps. Reps, don't defend yourself by making a case of your innocence, defend yourself by contributing. This is a start. Q1 is good. If you're town you should be able to offer a lot more. You still seem scummy to me. Umasi, this is directed at you: You said that depending on the reps flip you would still consider me as scum. Hhooookayy can we get past my first posts please. Haven't I already said several times that they were shit? That is your grounds for suspicion? I invite everyone to filter my posts and look them over. I am one of the most townie people in this game, and my later posts have definitely proved that. Umasi for this reason you are going on my notes list under suspicions. If reps flips town the most scummy individuals will be the ones who voted against reps last. The ones who vote reps at the end are the ones who vote to fit in. They don't vote someone else because they would be expected to make a case against the person they are voting against. Furthermore, they don't jump in early on and take an active stance because of the fear of unwanted attention. We should be suspicious of anyone who lurks and votes reps after this post, unless they can offer an in depth explanation of why they are voting against him. I am aware that if reps is town there is probably a talented scum that has been able to work there way into this argument in a way that appears pro town. We can work on them later. However, scum play with the fear of being noticed. They play with the fear of attention. Although it may be extremely subtle, the fear shows itself in their posts i.e a late vote like I talked about above. Why are you preemptively defending yourself? reps hasn't flipped yet, and you think he's scum. Hell, that entire post, ALL of it, is written on the contingency that reps is town. You read as unsure whether to proceed with the lynch because you're worried about the possible aftermath as it concerns you, not because you might be mislynching a townie. I don't want to talk about you too much, because reps is more important to clear up first. Like, you can feel free to keep pushing yourself into the issue, but that's just counterproductive, because if reps flips scum (like we think he will) I'm not voting you ANYWAY. | ||
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On August 02 2013 03:22 reps)squishy wrote: I can help win this game much more then RDaneelOlivaw or sc_a.M. I am trying my best to get information out of people to help town win. I know I unvoted and voted other people but I do that to try to get people to talk. RDaneelOlivaw is busy or a lurker so he was my first vote. Usami defended me which I thought I could do my self so I thought he was defending me as a scum cover up changed my mind and went with infii because he seems pretty shady does no come up with answers but excuses. I can help win this game much more then RDaneelOlivaw or sc_a.M. That specific line helps a lot. I want you to scum hunt reps, don't go back on your word here. Just because you're off my personal chopping block (dunno about everyone elses) doesn't mean you can go goof around again. This entire push feels wrong, because the tone of your typing feels like you're legitimately trying, and legitimately confused. You've been a detriment to town, but if we can work through that, it may turn out better in the end, and I don't want to lynch you anymore. I'd rather just lynch the scummiest, and you are no longer the scummiest. I am going out to lunch in fifteen ish minutes, going to reread and decide who to vote on. I don't think reps is our lynch. That said, I do want to see a lynch through though. ##UNVOTE REPS | ||
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On August 02 2013 02:44 sc_a.M wrote: No, well eventually maybe, I think I am going to get killed next day anyway, the reason you kill reps is the same you can apply to me, only reps started posting earlier (and after seeing the reactions I didn't really bother), what he said made sense to me. That you hate him so much gave me a day I guess. Perhaps after night time when we actually have the chance on some clues we can do more than the random lynching that is occuring at the moment. I don't understand why beeing against random lynching, and nothing else you can do day1 is anti town, but what ever. ##vote no-lynch Don't do thaaaaaaaaat. No lynching is stupid t.t Also, don't preemptively martyr when it's the end of day one and you have a single vote on you. It's a far better idea to start scumhunting. We won't get clues from the nighttime, all we'll know is if there is a serial killer or not. The only revealing thing is the nightkill, but even then, what would you learn from that? Like, if deus died and flipped town. What happens then? Nothing is really revealed. In fact, it might just be more confusing. No lynching is bad. We aren't random lynching, we're legitimately putting thought into who we're voting, that's the entire POINT. I'll give you a small grace period as per reps, get your ass in gear, and by that I specifically mean go filter dive people and see what you can come up with. This applies to you Rdaneel, don't just mildly comment on things, bring up things we haven't talked about and discuss it all, or discuss old things to death, as long as it's not about reps. We've beaten reps to death. | ||
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On August 02 2013 03:52 StiMaDDict wrote: Reps, do not vote infi. We have like an hour left right? Go scum hunt and do it quick. Do a quick analysis and an in-depth one. If you are a scum, then forget it. quick analysis and in depth is by definition impossible. that's the difference between the two. (but yeah, please go do shit) StiM, why do you not want him to vote infii? | ||
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reps played shitty too, is that a reason to vote him? I can make the same case. I think we're better off lynching infii. | ||
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That's how hard my opinion of reps has swung, to the point that I'm willing to no lynch over his death. ##VOTE INFII I'm out of time. I'll explain the vote more later, when I have time. | ||
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On August 02 2013 04:54 Nightcat99 wrote: it works, and you shall just post now, umasi is not answering . So its super scummy to me, hes the number 1 target tomorrow. I am going out to lunch in fifteen ish minutes, going to reread and decide who to vote on was afk, I made that clear. On August 02 2013 04:04 Umasi wrote: And yeah, I recognize a no-lynch might occur. That's how hard my opinion of reps has swung, to the point that I'm willing to no lynch over his death. ##VOTE INFII I'm out of time. I'll explain the vote more later, when I have time. I've made that clear too. I was pretty much perfectly clear on everything. I agree what I did was scummy, because I'm a proponent of never ever no lynch. THAT is how hard my opinion swayed on him. Since reps flipped town, I'm looking at deus and infii. Infii moreso than deus. Most of what Gotard has posted about infii has had merit, which is why I voted him. He's been noncommittal, has posted excuses for not posting (it's too hard to do(fuck try anyway dammit)) On August 01 2013 14:35 DeusXmachina wrote: Last post before I go to bed. Good to see more people are taking a stance against reps. Reps, don't defend yourself by making a case of your innocence, defend yourself by contributing. This is a start. Q1 is good. If you're town you should be able to offer a lot more. You still seem scummy to me. Umasi, this is directed at you: You said that depending on the reps flip you would still consider me as scum. Hhooookayy can we get past my first posts please. Haven't I already said several times that they were shit? That is your grounds for suspicion? I invite everyone to filter my posts and look them over. I am one of the most townie people in this game, and my later posts have definitely proved that. Umasi for this reason you are going on my notes list under suspicions. If reps flips town the most scummy individuals will be the ones who voted against reps last. The ones who vote reps at the end are the ones who vote to fit in. They don't vote someone else because they would be expected to make a case against the person they are voting against. Furthermore, they don't jump in early on and take an active stance because of the fear of unwanted attention. We should be suspicious of anyone who lurks and votes reps after this post, unless they can offer an in depth explanation of why they are voting against him. I am aware that if reps is town there is probably a talented scum that has been able to work there way into this argument in a way that appears pro town. We can work on them later. However, scum play with the fear of being noticed. They play with the fear of attention. Although it may be extremely subtle, the fear shows itself in their posts i.e a late vote like I talked about above. deus with that post. I've explained my thoughts on it here, posted for your convenience. On August 01 2013 15:38 Umasi wrote: Why are you preemptively defending yourself? reps hasn't flipped yet, and you think he's scum. Hell, that entire post, ALL of it, is written on the contingency that reps is town. You read as unsure whether to proceed with the lynch because you're worried about the possible aftermath as it concerns you, not because you might be mislynching a townie. I don't want to talk about you too much, because reps is more important to clear up first. Like, you can feel free to keep pushing yourself into the issue, but that's just counterproductive, because if reps flips scum (like we think he will) I'm not voting you ANYWAY. On August 02 2013 05:10 Zyrre wrote: Since Alakaslam and Umasi probably are not mafia now(or are taking on a mafia playstyle of the joker), can I please ask you to be more succint in your posts and not spam every single one of your thougts. reps flip as town does not mean we are town. It's just as easy for mafia to be correct about someones alignment as it is towns. In fact, it's easier! If anyone has questions for me, I'm around for the rest of the day, as far as I know. | ||
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On August 02 2013 05:20 DeusXmachina wrote: Well town we got what we wanted. Getting rid of reps is still a victory, just not as big as if he were scum. I have a hunch that one of them is scum. I plan on spending a lot of time looking into those two. Deus, that's FALSE. We got a mislynch on a bad townie, but he'd shown he was willing to try to improve. Although I can definitely see where that line of thinking comes from, mislynching is not a good thing. like, fucking ever. Would have been better to lynch one of our two lurkers, and even then, I'd prefer to vote infii. If they're still lurking by the end of day two then dammit I'll happily vote them because they've had time to get in gear. | ||
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On August 02 2013 05:27 DeusXmachina wrote: ?? It is guaranteed that mafia is correct on someones alignment. They know who town is lol. +1 | ||
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On August 02 2013 05:29 DeusXmachina wrote: Woah woah woah. I think most of us were in agreement that reps was a bad townie and not helping. Were we just supposed to hope that he would get better? Sorry bro but if he had real motivation to improve we would have seen it by now. Still a good lynch. Are you telling me that you have enough information to lynch someone else. Hardly. Any candidate you throw out would be just as likely to be a miss-lynch. No matter how you cut it, miss lynching is not a good thing. I don't even know why you CARE what I think about the miss lynch, and calling it a bad thing. The reason I care about what your opinions on it are is because you post a meaningless statement that feels like you're trying to include yourself. Well town we got what we wanted. Getting rid of reps is still a victory, just not as big as if he were scum. And deus, he did show motivation to improve, you actually responded to it yourself. On August 01 2013 14:35 DeusXmachina wrote: Last post before I go to bed. Good to see more people are taking a stance against reps. Reps, don't defend yourself by making a case of your innocence, defend yourself by contributing. This is a start. Q1 is good. If you're town you should be able to offer a lot more. You still seem scummy to me. Umasi, this is directed at you: You said that depending on the reps flip you would still consider me as scum. Hhooookayy can we get past my first posts please. Haven't I already said several times that they were shit? That is your grounds for suspicion? I invite everyone to filter my posts and look them over. I am one of the most townie people in this game, and my later posts have definitely proved that. Umasi for this reason you are going on my notes list under suspicions. If reps flips town the most scummy individuals will be the ones who voted against reps last. The ones who vote reps at the end are the ones who vote to fit in. They don't vote someone else because they would be expected to make a case against the person they are voting against. Furthermore, they don't jump in early on and take an active stance because of the fear of unwanted attention. We should be suspicious of anyone who lurks and votes reps after this post, unless they can offer an in depth explanation of why they are voting against him. I am aware that if reps is town there is probably a talented scum that has been able to work there way into this argument in a way that appears pro town. We can work on them later. However, scum play with the fear of being noticed. They play with the fear of attention. Although it may be extremely subtle, the fear shows itself in their posts i.e a late vote like I talked about above. "this is a good start" implying he'd started to improve. The more you respond, the worse a feeling I get about you. | ||
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On August 02 2013 05:41 StiMaDDict wrote: I actually kind of want to kill Deus. I feel bad for reps.. :< like it sucks, but whatever. keep objective. If you want to kill deus for a reason other than pitying reps, what are your thoughts specifically? | ||
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You said your plan was to look at me and slam for scum. Who else are you thinking? town reads, scum reads, anything. | ||
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You, daneel, are posting (I think) because we pressured you to post, so there's no reason to not pressure scam for not posting. because we want him to post. If you ignore a lurker, and don't vote a lurker, why on earth would they not keep on lurking? You'd have to hope it was just a scum not talking. But what if it's just another lazy town? | ||
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and even thne, he spends a lot of that post talking about the implications of reps flipping town, and at the end says that he's anti scam and stim. Why is he anti stim? Why wasn't he anti Daneel? Slam, he blatantly says that he won't post analysis on day one because there is not enough information to go on. (this is accepted to be untrue.) He also spends most of the time in that quote defending himself against a single vote (I think it was just gotard at the time. if reps was on him at the time, doesn't really count as pressure :<) | ||
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