• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:00
CEST 22:00
KST 05:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202510Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced26BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Serral wins EWC 2025 #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Afreeca app available on Samsung smart TV Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
How many questions are in the Publix survey?
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 704 users

I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia 2 - Page 9

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 40 Next All
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 24 2013 12:29 GMT
#161
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.
Well, I need to read better I guess -.-
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 24 2013 12:29 GMT
#162
Hey ShiaoPi dont you really think that Lazermonkey is far better lynch target?
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2013 12:30 GMT
#163
On July 24 2013 21:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.
Well, I need to read better I guess -.-

the stuff is weak in that one.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 24 2013 12:30 GMT
#164
On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.

y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it.
?

Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 12:31 GMT
#165
On July 24 2013 21:29 Malongo wrote:
Hey ShiaoPi dont you really think that Lazermonkey is far better lynch target?

Would you care to elaborate on that?
I currently don't see a reason to kill him
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2013 12:31 GMT
#166
On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game.

I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak.

y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it.
?

Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world.

but there can only be one carrot per monkey.
Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it.
If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 24 2013 12:34 GMT
#167
On July 24 2013 21:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 20:29 Malongo wrote:
On July 24 2013 20:17 ShiaoPi wrote:
Malongo, clarify please what you meant by "threat" regarding Lazer

I meant that he looks more mafioso. The way he presented his suppositions were far more suspicious than a player claiming vet day1. My first thought was that the mason pairing was random and I didnt even realize that mafia doesnt need to mason, but he went all the way a step further: he thought what was actually "good" for the mafia (1 on 1 pairings).
I'm sorry, I literally don't understand this post at all. Like not even a single bit. I'm no veteran and even if I were, why is my way of presenting suspicions scummy? Isn't the mason pairing random? at least I got paired with some random dude. And what do you mean with "he thought what was actually "good" for the mafia (1 on 1 pairings)."
Malango plz
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 24 2013 12:44 GMT
#168
On July 24 2013 17:48 Lazermonkey wrote:
We claim our names in QT, we claim who we are in the QT with, I already did it anyway. My partner hasn't posted yet so I'm unable to do that atm but will do that as soon as he does post. I'm assuming right now that everyone

got 1 mason partner, no more no less.
scum got 3 players.
Every scum player is paired with a town player.


Which doesn't seem very unresonable to me. This means that scum already knows 3 of the mason pairs. Claiming our QTs means that scum will know 3 more QTs by having everyone to claim but town will know 5 more QTs. This is a very favourable trade off for town. Also, more openess is almost always a positive thing for town.

Another thing we could discuss is revealing all posts from the QTs every night. This is an idea we used in Mad men mafia, where we had 6 millers (the ones who chooses a player every day to chat with, not these types, but still) in a 24 player game. Some time before the NK one of the players outed every post made in the QT the last 72 hours. Not only did this give more information to work with for the thread but it also prevents scum from faking posts in the QT if the partner dies. I haven't really analyzed this idea too much, but I think it is probably a good one.


On July 24 2013 21:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 20:29 Malongo wrote:
On July 24 2013 20:17 ShiaoPi wrote:
Malongo, clarify please what you meant by "threat" regarding Lazer

I meant that he looks more mafioso. The way he presented his suppositions were far more suspicious than a player claiming vet day1. My first thought was that the mason pairing was random and I didnt even realize that mafia doesnt need to mason, but he went all the way a step further: he thought what was actually "good" for the mafia (1 on 1 pairings).
I'm sorry, I literally don't understand this post at all. Like not even a single bit. I'm no veteran and even if I were, why is my way of presenting suspicions scummy?Isn't the mason pairing random? at least I got paired with some random dude. And what do you mean with"he thought what was actually "good" for the mafia (1 on 1 pairings)."


Its not random if 2 mafia cant be paired. Only the mafia knows for sure if they got 2 of them paired, something not good for the mafia (as they are already in contact).
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 12:48 GMT
#169
@Malongo:
The thing is Lazer does not know it. He even says it explicitly that he is assuming the following 3 things.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2013 12:51 GMT
#170
I'd be really surprised if mafia can't be paired with each other.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 24 2013 12:56 GMT
#171
On July 24 2013 21:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Malongo:
The thing is Lazer does not know it. He even says it explicitly that he is assuming the following 3 things.

So, let me guess, he is assuming that every mafia is paired to a townie, yet he is assuming the pairing is random? That is something only mafia knows.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2013 12:58 GMT
#172
On July 24 2013 21:17 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am saying you are saying so. I am not familiar with the Kenpachi rule and i don't even care because i did not call you scummy because of your claim. God, why is that so hard to understand?

Tell me, what else does that mean:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am here.

ShiaoPi what the hell? Why did you claim vt?
Also everyone shoud be sharing their identity in mason QT's, the people who don't should be killed. If your mason partner does not share their identity kill them. There is no reason not to share that information.

"what the hell" implies that you think of this claim as negatively

This is an implication to you that i want a reason for your claim.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


saying that the claim is either stupid or scum, is indirectly calling me scummy.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt.


This post implies that I am not town to you.

This is pressuring you to answer.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 16:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:51 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:21 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:10 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also, @rayne
You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction?

Because the claim is either stupid or scum.


Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is.
However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since...

That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt.


Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi?

That's the only thing ShiaoPi has posted, how could anything else be an issue with him?
I know the claim is not alignment indicative in itself, but ShiaoPi's reasons sure are. There is a reason he said what he did, and i want to know what his reasons were.


On July 24 2013 15:47 Z-BosoN wrote:
On July 24 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What do you think of Sylencia?

Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention?


Sylencia asks people about if mason-partners should reveal their identity to each other. However he himself seems to have no stance on that. That's what caught my attention.

Sylencia: Do you think mason partners should reveal their identity to each other? Why/why not?

This is where you backpedal

See, i explain it here. In the set of quotes there is also the post you call Z-Boson town for. I don't understand how you get a town read on him for this as explained. I am not backpedalling, i am explaining what i am doing.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit. You actually did say you really are a VT.

##Vote: ShiaoPi

and finally this does say pretty surely that you think of me as scum.

Did I miss anything?

Yes, that's where i really thought you were scum. However now i am not so sure about it any more as i can see what you mean. However you are wrong if you are town. You started discussion with VT claim. I found that odd and wanted your reasons for the claim. If you think i am scum because of that then there is not much i can answer to you regarding that other than you are wrong. I, like you wanted to start the discussion on something other than setup. Last game (Bluelightz game) i tried playing more passively than usual and see what the D1 was like. Fucking awful.

##Unvote:
table for two on a tv tray
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 12:59 GMT
#173
I am not sure on that. From a hosting perspective it does make sense to have scum not paired with scum and since the setup is closed it is unlikely that we will get answers for that anyway.
It is a nice detail you found, something to keep in mind but not convincing me enought to switch of FirmTofu right now.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2013 12:59 GMT
#174
On July 24 2013 21:56 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Malongo:
The thing is Lazer does not know it. He even says it explicitly that he is assuming the following 3 things.

So, let me guess, he is assuming that every mafia is paired to a townie, yet he is assuming the pairing is random? That is something only mafia knows.

How does mafia know the way the pairings get paired?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 24 2013 13:02 GMT
#175
Well, I assumed host made up resonable mason teams and assumed he wouldn't pair two scum together. I think this is a good and not very bold assumption yet its obviously still just an assumption and I wouldn't want to base the whole game around it. However, for early D1 discussion its all good IMO. I interpreted your post as that mafia had the option to chose their mason partners, thus my confusion. I see where you are comming from but I really don't see how it makes scum at all yet you want to lynch me...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 24 2013 13:02 GMT
#176
On July 24 2013 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:56 Malongo wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Malongo:
The thing is Lazer does not know it. He even says it explicitly that he is assuming the following 3 things.

So, let me guess, he is assuming that every mafia is paired to a townie, yet he is assuming the pairing is random? That is something only mafia knows.

How does mafia know the way the pairings get paired?

Actually this is a good point. Also i don't understand why Lazer said what he did (assuming scum are paired with town - then saying it's likely random).
table for two on a tv tray
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 24 2013 13:03 GMT
#177
@rayn:
We can agree to disagree on the interpretation of your posts. Still you and FirmTofu were the only persons to really react in a suspicious manner to the claim so that is the point where I am standing.
Who is your lynch-choice now that you have unvoted?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#178
Artanis you still need to answer the monkeys.

I will not forget.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 24 2013 13:04 GMT
#179
On July 24 2013 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 21:56 Malongo wrote:
On July 24 2013 21:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Malongo:
The thing is Lazer does not know it. He even says it explicitly that he is assuming the following 3 things.

So, let me guess, he is assuming that every mafia is paired to a townie, yet he is assuming the pairing is random? That is something only mafia knows.

How does mafia know the way the pairings get paired?

I meant that mafia knows if they got 2 of them paired. Lazer is assuming there were no mafia paired *but* that the pairing is random. Do you see the flaw? If he really thinks the pairing is random there is no way to assume a 1-1 pairing unless you actually noted that mafia is not paired together.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
July 24 2013 13:05 GMT
#180
The monkeys are key, you see.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 40 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
17:00
Rotti Stream Rumble All-Random
RotterdaM883
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 883
UpATreeSC 146
SteadfastSC 60
EmSc Tv 52
MindelVK 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 1170
EffOrt 686
Mind 125
Dewaltoss 116
TY 91
sas.Sziky 61
yabsab 60
Free 25
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
syndereN475
League of Legends
Grubby4086
Counter-Strike
fl0m3128
pashabiceps745
Stewie2K425
Super Smash Bros
PPMD65
Westballz36
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu476
Other Games
summit1g2752
ToD167
mouzStarbuck141
Trikslyr93
Sick57
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 52
EmSc2Tv 52
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 23 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 324
• davetesta107
• StrangeGG 30
• Hupsaiya 30
• LUISG 16
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki19
• 80smullet 16
• HerbMon 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22594
• WagamamaTV801
League of Legends
• TFBlade1411
Other Games
• imaqtpie1568
• Shiphtur610
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h
WardiTV European League
20h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 4h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.