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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 21:19 GMT
#726
You really haven't been reading have you jjd
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 21:21 GMT
#727
As for why I asked: I found him scummy. But that doesn't make him scum. He's come across as scummy as town before.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 22 2013 23:54 GMT
#790
I have just absolutely zero motivation to do fucking anything right now.
I think I've made this clear but I'll say it again. Either TG or Oats tomorrow. Not sure I really care which.
List post of our reads coming later tonight before deadline; Geript and I have been mostly in agreement with our reads for the game so whoever posts it shouldn't matter.

-Wave
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 02:33 GMT
#807
On July 23 2013 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
And this vote post is so horrible. "im not saying anything useful" like 3-4 other people in the game? Why me? Because I was getting pushed to be lynched and he wanted to lynch me cause Im totally a useful and important player.

In this game?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 02:45 GMT
#810
My reaction is quite literally: Where's the case on Rayn?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 14:44 GMT
#936
I want to lynch TAA. None of the reasons have changed since D1. He's just completely lurking now instead of even trying to hide it.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 15:22 GMT
#940
I'd rather you not shoot him.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#947
K I have too many scumreads right now. Might have to downgrade some.
Sadly, it seems as though Oats might not be scum at all---he for whatever reason just likes to play like shit as town every other game.

Scum = TAA/TG/ mebbe Cora.
Oats picked this out as well bu Cora's reaction to the TG rb is unnatural. He calls everyone out as having assumed TG is town who got scum roleblocked but nobody said or assumed this at all. Looks like a predetermined plan in scum QT to fake the RB to me and bus somebody who was likely being lynched anyway.
May not be the simplest plan, but I've been a part of a lot of games lately where scum RB is not directly used on town for whatever reason.

Thoughts, gentlemen?

Oh also Onegu claim too dumb to be scum, sorry buddy.

-Wave
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:44 GMT
#953
On July 24 2013 01:38 FiveTouch wrote:
VE & I just musing in QT. Gonna let him have some post-time. I agree with almost everything you said, Wave, except I think Tangeng could be town.

~marv

I don't like the idea of letting him go though. Someone said it earlier but we're always going to have that 'what if' feeling about him.

What makes you think he's town?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:47 GMT
#956
Ok you posted about TG.
Not certain I agree with you but Geript and I will discuss.
I am interested to see what you thought was scummy about Geript though (since he was the one doing basically all the posting yesterday except where I said I'd to a list post and then got a case of the cbas)
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:52 GMT
#960
On July 24 2013 01:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 01:44 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 01:38 FiveTouch wrote:
VE & I just musing in QT. Gonna let him have some post-time. I agree with almost everything you said, Wave, except I think Tangeng could be town.

~marv

I don't like the idea of letting him go though. Someone said it earlier but we're always going to have that 'what if' feeling about him.

What makes you think he's town?


I know, it feels icky.

He's twice used the argument that Onegu is town because he could have lynched him. Now I'm well aware that scum can fake this argument, but in my experience usually they don't, it's usually townies who say stuff like this, because townies have a very self-centric view like that. I know I do that much more as town than I do as scum. Possibly because I'm usually under less suspicion as mafia, but meh.

~marv

I don't think it's a great example. I believe everything DrH said before he ragequit was true and he justified his lack of activity to himself. He figured voting for himself wouldn't have actually mattered at that point and didn't catch up or care enough about this game at that point to help us out. It had nothing to do with him being a towny or scum not dropping the hammer imo. I think scum probably knew this so I don't really think that argument holds much water.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:55 GMT
#964
On July 24 2013 01:52 FiveTouch wrote:
Mostly you Wave - your whole charade of "OH MY GOD I'M SO FUCKING UNMOTIVATED JESUS THE GAME WHAT THE FUCK"

You've come into the thread much better now, but last night it was really raising my hackles.

I don't think you understand how much this game pissed me off starting the end of D1. Look at LX to see how pissed off I was about Grush's activity for exampe. I've come to give Grush a pass, but the fact that people sign up for games and don't fucking play will ALWAYS piss me off. It ruins games.

On July 24 2013 01:52 Onegu wrote:
@wave you think oats is town because meta or something else?

I guess it's sort of meta? People who know Oats know he's capable of playing a blatant anti-town game as town. It's fucking ridiculous but it's true. He's since picked it up but you can't deny his entire D1 and some of N1 was anti-town.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#965
On July 24 2013 01:53 FiveTouch wrote:
No, it's the mentality of Tangeng I'm talking about, not whether his argument actually holds water.

~marv

But that's what I mean. If scum knew DrH is town hen that's an easy argument to toss out, and I don't think it says anything about mentality as such. You say it's more likely for that to come from a town mindset but I say it's just as easy for scum to pick up on that argument as the first one to use.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 16:58 GMT
#967
On July 24 2013 01:55 FiveTouch wrote:
I just dont' understand why, if he had a gun, he let people piss him off so bad? Why not just wait like FIVE MINUTES an shoot them in the night? I know I've taken a few therapeutic shots in my day...

This I'm not sure about.
I've seen DrH play a little and he's certainly capable of raging like that (as your ego feud would show as well).
Hosts need to give me shots more often as well.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 17:04 GMT
#972
Re-reading our QT, there's one thing that still bugs me about Oats.
It seems pretty damn likely to me that Oats' play D1 could be a result of 2x scumgames in a row. That's probably the strongest scumpoint I have against him right now and I kinda want to ignore him the rest of the day either way so somebody help me think this through so I can move on.

-still wave
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 17:05 GMT
#973
On July 24 2013 02:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
Marv I thought you were going to take a pass on reading me? We've been town together for like 8 games in a row and you've suspected me in every single one of them. If that says anything, it should say that we are both town.

Marv isn't the only one who suspects you, honey.
Lets get some comments on stuff that's not you, k?
Thought on mine + 5T's recent conversation?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 17:15 GMT
#976
OH yeah I meant to say gg to Rayn---lol I was right he did get shot N1!
Haha man I'd be so pissed if that happened to me every game. I don't know if every scumteam ends up actually being afraid of him, if it's a coincidence, or people are just doing it for shits and giggles now.

Now as far as who scum was 'likely' to shoot? I figured we would have been it from start of D1 but after the no-lynch debacle I figured maybe Austin instead since we no longer looked...I dunno 'capable?'
No offense but I'm still not set on your alignment marv/VE so I'm not surprised you weren't the shot, nor am I surprised DrH wasn't. He was left up almost till LYLO in LX and he didn't do shit this game. Why would scum shoot him?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 18:18 GMT
#986
On July 24 2013 03:10 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 01:52 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 01:47 FiveTouch wrote:
On July 24 2013 01:44 getmoript wrote:
On July 24 2013 01:38 FiveTouch wrote:
VE & I just musing in QT. Gonna let him have some post-time. I agree with almost everything you said, Wave, except I think Tangeng could be town.

~marv

I don't like the idea of letting him go though. Someone said it earlier but we're always going to have that 'what if' feeling about him.

What makes you think he's town?


I know, it feels icky.

He's twice used the argument that Onegu is town because he could have lynched him. Now I'm well aware that scum can fake this argument, but in my experience usually they don't, it's usually townies who say stuff like this, because townies have a very self-centric view like that. I know I do that much more as town than I do as scum. Possibly because I'm usually under less suspicion as mafia, but meh.

~marv

I don't think it's a great example. I believe everything DrH said before he ragequit was true and he justified his lack of activity to himself. He figured voting for himself wouldn't have actually mattered at that point and didn't catch up or care enough about this game at that point to help us out. It had nothing to do with him being a towny or scum not dropping the hammer imo. I think scum probably knew this so I don't really think that argument holds much water.


@WoS
Scum DrH would come from a position of information unlike Town DrH which would be in ignorance. Acting on their information is what should be happening and a mislynch was the easy answer. Do you think scum would act as DrH apparently did and abstained from the vote?

Again, scum DrH COULD STILL make the no-lynch play if they were confident that I would be lynch bait and waste town time on a Day 2 lynch. In such a play, they'd have to know town well and be able to push town agenda. Given that, I'd expect one of the more vocal town voices to be scum and DrH would have been prepared for some kind of pressure on the null vote. He surely would not have rage quit.



The way I see it, I was completely focused on Onegu. There is nothing in my post about myself except the unquestionable assumption that I am town. If you want to analyse me via my posting, clearly you'll have to peel back the assumption and run through the scum scenarios.



@Marv
Not sure what kind of mentality you mean by "self-centric."

You're not following me.
I don't think DrH is scum, I think you are.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#996
On July 24 2013 04:04 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 03:54 TanGeng wrote:
Btw, which one of you has the meta town read on JJD? Care to share?
I've already asked for this. No they don't care to share.

I already told you. If you had bothered to read my filter then you would understand how and why I have a meta read on you.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 23 2013 20:51 GMT
#1010
@5T. Why not TAA? I think he's a much better lynch, he's scummy, not doing anything at all and we don't have to worry about misreading him based on bad past experiences.
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