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On July 03 2013 00:56 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 00:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 00:04 gumshoe wrote:On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 23:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread. In fairness he did say his activity would be spotty on Day 1, Canada day and what have you. I agree with you that it's at best extremely hypocritical with the Stutters thing. ..and me too. And yeah, that's all I was implying. He searching for anything that he can call scummy about me. ie: - my post about voting to save myself - "flipflopping" when I changed my opinion on rayn - The aforemention inactivity of myself and stutters - me "piggybacking" oats opinion on marv Is any of this stuff really scummy? In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? 1:This is effectively you saying you have found Razors null/posting scummy, but doing it an uber passive way. I find this scummy/shiit flinging without the effort. Sue me of you dont. Finding someones post not town-indicitive <> attacking that person. That's a huge leap to make. 2:Regarding the timing of my absence, at the time of my leaving you asked me @gumshoe - opinion on mass role claiming? On July 02 2013 00:46 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar did you get any flavour text at least XD might help me swallow this.
We're not supposed to I thought but yes I got flavor. Didn't you?
I'm actually worried that I wasn't even supposed to post what I did.
On July 01 2013 09:35 iGrok wrote:
Game continues. Deadline will not be pushed back, as only ~ 2 hours we missed.
To reiterate, the game is now unpaused, please continue. Thanks for working with me to sort this out.
I do need everyone else to go ahead and send in their role PMs, and I have changed one rule in the OP:
It is no longer allowed to post your role pm. You may only post your role name.
I'm thinking that the whole role name means I was only supposed to say "vanilla". Because I feel like the whole mass claim is kinda broken in this setup. Does this sound accusatory? At my time of leaving I assumed we were on fine terms, this means that my absence is nothing like stutters because I left when there was no heat on me. It's also not like yours because I did not pop up as a case formed on me, which means I was not actively not contributing. Also I told everyone I was leaving for the day, and you took the opportunity to pounce. You've started a case because I announced I was leaving and then called me a hypocrite because you started a case and I was gone... Also sorry about the vote, Canada day eh / : my absence is nothing like yours or Stutters just like Marv's is not like yours or stutters. This is just a complete misrepresentation of what happened. I had made my cases against you BEFORE any of the role stuff happened. I didn't take the opportunnity to pounce after you said you were leaving for the day. The majority of what I said was before that. Yes I reposted it for marv and then sure, I started it up again today while you were still gone. Are you saying that I shouldn't push my scumread because he disapeared for the day? I don't know how you can say you "assumed we were on fine terms" when we already had plenty of back and forth and I posted @ least 2 full cases against you. Well then tough, you've been misrepresenting half of what I said as well, this is just the way I see it. I'm not talking with you about this anymore though, answer my question on Lazer please.
How is that an answer? You said you thought we were on fine terms even though I had spent a great deal of time accusing you. Why would you have thought that?
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On July 03 2013 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Because of the way he uses it. As town you want to try and get answers and reads from as many people as possible and especially that early in the game I'd argue it's a bad idea to trust anyone completely. The fact that Stutters values Vivax's opinions so much above those of anyone else looks like scum buddying up to a player widely regarded as town (though possible Vivax is not town himself, though I admit a buddying attempt this obvious is unlikely to be 2 scum).
He echoes Vivax's sentiments in many ways and to me it looks more likely to come from scum with weak reads/no good reads of his own.
Maybe, but I see townies blatantly sheeping on to people all the time (more than mafia I'd say) for good or bad. e.g. for whatever reason Vivax just blindly sheeped BlazingHand (who was scum) d1 in...er... The Game, Baker did the same to SMMccoy in Smurf, players like fuba/Clarity_nl sometimes just blatantly sheep on to me. Also this is a PM from a friend recently:
My day 1 is usually a complete crapshoot. I sheep someone who I think is town, or someone who I like (hi!), cross my damn fingers and hope it doesn't blow up in my face. D2 onwards is where I usually always pick up steam.
I understand what you're getting at, I'm just struggling to see why it's so different from how townies often go about doing similar.
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On July 03 2013 01:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 00:56 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 00:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 03 2013 00:04 gumshoe wrote:On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 23:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:On July 02 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 22:56 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Regardless he unvoted so the point is moo.
What is wierd though is how he disappeared during the crucial part of the day. Especially considering he used that exact same reasoning to build his case against Stutters and myself. See if I was like him, I'd start throwing out all these theorys that he couldn't refute about how the mass roleclaim idea scared him away and he purposefully stayed away from the thread. In fairness he did say his activity would be spotty on Day 1, Canada day and what have you. I agree with you that it's at best extremely hypocritical with the Stutters thing. ..and me too. And yeah, that's all I was implying. He searching for anything that he can call scummy about me. ie: - my post about voting to save myself - "flipflopping" when I changed my opinion on rayn - The aforemention inactivity of myself and stutters - me "piggybacking" oats opinion on marv Is any of this stuff really scummy? In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far.I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? 1:This is effectively you saying you have found Razors null/posting scummy, but doing it an uber passive way. I find this scummy/shiit flinging without the effort. Sue me of you dont. Finding someones post not town-indicitive <> attacking that person. That's a huge leap to make. 2:Regarding the timing of my absence, at the time of my leaving you asked me @gumshoe - opinion on mass role claiming? On July 02 2013 00:46 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar did you get any flavour text at least XD might help me swallow this.
We're not supposed to I thought but yes I got flavor. Didn't you?
I'm actually worried that I wasn't even supposed to post what I did.
On July 01 2013 09:35 iGrok wrote:
Game continues. Deadline will not be pushed back, as only ~ 2 hours we missed.
To reiterate, the game is now unpaused, please continue. Thanks for working with me to sort this out.
I do need everyone else to go ahead and send in their role PMs, and I have changed one rule in the OP:
It is no longer allowed to post your role pm. You may only post your role name.
I'm thinking that the whole role name means I was only supposed to say "vanilla". Because I feel like the whole mass claim is kinda broken in this setup. Does this sound accusatory? At my time of leaving I assumed we were on fine terms, this means that my absence is nothing like stutters because I left when there was no heat on me. It's also not like yours because I did not pop up as a case formed on me, which means I was not actively not contributing. Also I told everyone I was leaving for the day, and you took the opportunity to pounce. You've started a case because I announced I was leaving and then called me a hypocrite because you started a case and I was gone... Also sorry about the vote, Canada day eh / : my absence is nothing like yours or Stutters just like Marv's is not like yours or stutters. This is just a complete misrepresentation of what happened. I had made my cases against you BEFORE any of the role stuff happened. I didn't take the opportunnity to pounce after you said you were leaving for the day. The majority of what I said was before that. Yes I reposted it for marv and then sure, I started it up again today while you were still gone. Are you saying that I shouldn't push my scumread because he disapeared for the day? I don't know how you can say you "assumed we were on fine terms" when we already had plenty of back and forth and I posted @ least 2 full cases against you. Well then tough, you've been misrepresenting half of what I said as well, this is just the way I see it. I'm not talking with you about this anymore though, answer my question on Lazer please. How is that an answer? You said you thought we were on fine terms even though I had spent a great deal of time accusing you. Why would you have thought that?
The tone of our last conversation along side your reveal and my reversal changed my view. Is that so hard to believe? Sorry but your completely biased and wrong. Answer my question if you feel you deserve the same. How did you feel about Lazer putting his vote on vayne though mentioning thoroughly he was likely lynch bait. Also do you think it'd be easier to claim blue in this game than green?
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On July 03 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Because of the way he uses it. As town you want to try and get answers and reads from as many people as possible and especially that early in the game I'd argue it's a bad idea to trust anyone completely. The fact that Stutters values Vivax's opinions so much above those of anyone else looks like scum buddying up to a player widely regarded as town (though possible Vivax is not town himself, though I admit a buddying attempt this obvious is unlikely to be 2 scum).
He echoes Vivax's sentiments in many ways and to me it looks more likely to come from scum with weak reads/no good reads of his own.
Maybe, but I see townies blatantly sheeping on to people all the time (more than mafia I'd say) for good or bad. e.g. for whatever reason Vivax just blindly sheeped BlazingHand (who was scum) d1 in...er... The Game, Baker did the same to SMMccoy in Smurf, players like fuba/Clarity_nl sometimes just blatantly sheep on to me. Also this is a PM from a friend recently: Show nested quote +
My day 1 is usually a complete crapshoot. I sheep someone who I think is town, or someone who I like (hi!), cross my damn fingers and hope it doesn't blow up in my face. D2 onwards is where I usually always pick up steam.
I understand what you're getting at, I'm just struggling to see why it's so different from how townies often go about doing similar.
It wasn't the Game, it was Carnival Cruise, and FUCK that blind sheeping pissed me off.
Maybe I'm biased here because I know I'd personally never play that way as town, and I could very easily see Stutters needing to do something like this in his first scum game (lack of confidence or what-have-you).
Marv what are your current thoughts regarding Lazer?
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On July 03 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far. I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? gumshoe, I'm curious about what Jarjar picked up with the bolded. You attack Jarjar for groundlessly attacking Jarjar, when Jarjar had merely said he didn't see why Lazer should be a townread. Do you understand how that looks like you were grabbing and twisting at stuff? Or do you have a different explanation? I believe scum would find passive aggressive ways to throw doubt on people. him saying "nothing in his posting looks townie" is effectively him saying he looked through his filter, and found him null/scum. The tone of it sounded scum to me though because of the sort of double pronged(associating rayne and lazer) passive way it came across. Isn't the townie explanation that he sees someone with what he views as a weird townread and doesn't tally it with his own mentality/view of the game?
But then what is he implying? That Rayne is giving Lazer a free pass? Then hes still accusing and associating them in shallow way, I'm sorry but I find that scummy.
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I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.
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I'll get to everything when I drop my girlfriend off WoS but as far as riding Vivax's dick goes, that's not true. I was on pace to be mislynched, that has literally never happened to me before and I really didn't want to have to claim and give scum an even higher chance of finding a safe claim via guessing. Thus I felt forced into a position where working with someone I have a town read on saved a guaranteed mislynch. It wasn't optimal, I would have much rather gotten the lynch on Fuba before I had to leave but as I hadn't succeeded in that(he had three non-committal posts with next to no analysis, there really wasn't much more to say at the time imo) the best play I could make was to ensure I don't make scum beating a mass claim earlier/not get mislynched/and work with people I thought were town. Had other people I thought were for sure town been there I would have worked with them. Vivax just happened to be active at the time.
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On July 03 2013 01:16 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote:On July 03 2013 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far. I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? gumshoe, I'm curious about what Jarjar picked up with the bolded. You attack Jarjar for groundlessly attacking Jarjar, when Jarjar had merely said he didn't see why Lazer should be a townread. Do you understand how that looks like you were grabbing and twisting at stuff? Or do you have a different explanation? I believe scum would find passive aggressive ways to throw doubt on people. him saying "nothing in his posting looks townie" is effectively him saying he looked through his filter, and found him null/scum. The tone of it sounded scum to me though because of the sort of double pronged(associating rayne and lazer) passive way it came across. Isn't the townie explanation that he sees someone with what he views as a weird townread and doesn't tally it with his own mentality/view of the game? But then what is he implying? That Rayne is giving Lazer a free pass? Then hes still accusing and associating them in shallow way, I'm sorry but I find that scummy.
If you see someone scummy or null and someone else views them townie and you just don't understand why, it's not valid to mention it? Stop throwing around the word "association", literally every interaction between anyone is an association. It's no point saying "sorry I find it scummy" when I'm providing an alternate, very plausible narrative.
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On July 03 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On July 03 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:On July 02 2013 23:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:In fact, I relooked @ the piggyback accusation and check this out: On July 01 2013 04:34 gumshoe wrote:
Jar Jar Drinks's first post is essentially just him piggy backing off Oat's accusation of Rayne (who in turn was just recycling my initial analysis and presenting it as his own but with gusto) while simultaneously attacking Lazer without providing any reason why (he also associates them here as if they are in league, when in reality they're is no real proof connecting the two other than Wifom) he backs mine and Oat's assesment of Stutters maybe just being silly town, but doesn't comment on his long absence. Here's my first post that he's referring to: On June 30 2013 13:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:On June 30 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
He instantly buddied marv after his miller claim which doesnt 100% confirm marv as town.
Its was like
'Miller claim please'
'im miller'
'k lets win game together marv'
Does anyone else not see that something is wrong? Agree. I also think it's wierd that he's already twice called Lazer a townread. I'm not seeing why he'd think that based on what lazer's posted so far. I also don't see what's scummy about stutters. Here's his vote for him: On June 30 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no, Stutters' last post makes no sense from town point of view.
##Vote: Stutters And here's the post in question: On June 30 2013 07:06 Stutters695 wrote:On June 30 2013 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stutters what do you think about Lazer's post?
Also what do you think about WoS' posts? I think he's lazy and didn't read the op/didn't comprehend, nbd. WoS I'm not sure. My French is really rusty so I haven't even really tried to read them but I don't like the fact he's typing in a way clearly everyone won't understand. Can't really judge it this early without just WIFOMing myself for ages. I don't quite get what he's saying here. Why doesn't that post make sense for town? Am I really piggybacking? I acknowledge oats case barely and then give 3 of my own reasons for thinking rayne was scummy. And also I wasn't attacking lazer and I certainly wasn't associating them as if they were in league. And then again he mentions actvity by saying that I didn't comment on stutters long absence. Like, I commented on stutters actual posts. What could he possibly expect me to say about the fact that he wasn't posting? gumshoe, I'm curious about what Jarjar picked up with the bolded. You attack Jarjar for groundlessly attacking Jarjar, when Jarjar had merely said he didn't see why Lazer should be a townread. Do you understand how that looks like you were grabbing and twisting at stuff? Or do you have a different explanation? I believe scum would find passive aggressive ways to throw doubt on people. him saying "nothing in his posting looks townie" is effectively him saying he looked through his filter, and found him null/scum. The tone of it sounded scum to me though because of the sort of double pronged(associating rayne and lazer) passive way it came across. Isn't the townie explanation that he sees someone with what he views as a weird townread and doesn't tally it with his own mentality/view of the game?
Also context is important, early in the game alot of people were arguing and pushing matters along, Jar Jar had three posts that flung veiled jabs at solstice Lazer and Rayne. Now we can look back and see the whole thing in perspective and read his rebuttals and take note of his reveal but back then he seemed pretty lurkey/accusatory.
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On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote:
I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight.
I'm not sure how you think this would happen.
Stutters have you really never been mislynched? I'm trying to think of games we've been in together and I know you're under the gun pretty often for your activity and such. I'm willing to accept your explanation regarding Vivax as it does seem to fit but as I said earlier I'd like to see something new from you that doesn't seem to echo his sentiments, and since he's not here apparently, this would be the perfect time.
What are your thoughts regarding Lazer or gumshoe currently? Do you still feel the same way about Fuba?
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Jarjar, if we assume gumshoe is indeed blue, then now what?
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And context on that literally never been mislynched, I mean where the game wasn't already "solved." I was mislynched in WLIIA, but it was a plan we all agreed to based on a misunderstanding of a question asked to the host or something like that. It made sense at the time lol
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On July 02 2013 21:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so people who are most likely town:
JarJar, Lazer, marv, Vivax, Oats, gumshoe Why is gumshoe most likely town? What about my case don't you like? (Especially the stuff about the mass claim). Also, you think it's reasonable to assume that I'm town and there was no mafia were pushing my lynch yesterday?
Do i still need to comment on your case on gumshoe as he claimed blue?
People voting for you in chronological order; gumshoe, Lazer, me, Stutters.
gumshoe & Lazer have claimed blue, i am town, if there is scum in your wagon it has to be Stutters, unless one of those blue claims is fake.
Opposing wagons at that time were; me and to some extent WoS.
Vivax and Oats were voting for me, i don't think either of them is scum.
Mafia pretty much didn't need to push any lynch (if you are town) as both of the main wagons were town, and probably pushed by town (i do not think either of the blue claim is fake). People who should be looked more closely to are those who did not push any lynch, did defend either me or you, and did not join the opposing wagon.
On July 02 2013 21:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
whos scum
that's a good question. Fuba, who is scum?
If it's Stutters can you repost your reasoning for him being scum?
Also do you have any other scumreads?
The Plan:
We are doing the massclaim first thing on D2. Here's how:
- everyone posts a list of names, where the first name is the scummiest and the last on towniest (exclude yourself).
- we give points to the lists, the scummiest gets (1) and the towniest gets (how many of us are alive).
- the person with all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.
Agreed?
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On July 03 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
Jarjar, if we assume gumshoe is indeed blue, then now what? I think we do what we should have on day 1. Proceed w/ the mass claim.
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Sounds a bit complex. How about I arbitrarily draw up groups? xD
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EBWOP:
- the person with least points when all points combined from everyone claims first and so on.
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That's not complex marv. It also forces everyone to put their reads in order, and everyone can be queestioned about their order later.
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Complex enough, I can't really be bothered to agonise over who I put where.
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There is no point in doing the massclaim if someone just decides in which order we claim. Or if someone gets to decide, it has to be JarJar.
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You know marv, for someone who claimed miller so early with no name you certainly do resist this a whole lot.
On July 02 2013 18:29 marvellosity wrote:
Hi guys. How much do you think random townie name claims are worth? Was running through my head around a bit last night, and I'm basically kinda assuming scum got at least some fakeclaims.
On July 02 2013 19:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 19:34 Vivax wrote:On July 02 2013 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
It's not 100% clear from the OP that *only* the names listed are in the game maybe? I assume you guys have names from the OP? I'm 99 % sure only the names listed are in the game. It says "these roles will be in the game". Why would the host give someone a name other than ones listed there? Actually it says "The following characters may be in the game" which is not quite the same thing. The reason would be to prevent massclaiming potentially breaking the game 
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