On July 03 2013 02:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
as i do not think there are 3 blues, and gumshoe can't know if there is another one.
Lazer could be town due to his claim but that does not change the fact that marv should not doubt his claim.

Ok you answered my question.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 17:39 GMT

#962

yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 17:40 GMT

#963

Also WoS, understand that barring a vet/JK save we lose on N2 if we mislynch D2.

JarJarDrinks

United States1302 Posts

July 02 2013 17:46 GMT

#964

I agree w/ rayns assesment and also agree that vig should shoot into lazr/marv tonight

JarJarDrinks

United States1302 Posts

July 02 2013 17:46 GMT

#965

On July 03 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are not gumshoe and you are a vigilante, shoot lazer/marv.

Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

July 02 2013 17:54 GMT

#966

On July 03 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i just said Lazer might be town. BUT IF MARV IS MILLER HE HAS ZERO REASON TO DOUBT UN-CC'D COP!
marv is not a miller and not town.

If any miller is yet to claim they are retarded.

0_0, sorry, I'm slow. In small words why would Marv have no reason to doubt Lazer if hes miller? And yeah I agree, there is either no miller or Marv is miller. If Marv isn't miller though did he just make another ridicules balls to the wall claim this game? Havent you considered that extremely unlikely for some time now?

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

July 02 2013 17:56 GMT

#967

On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

Maybe he means I'm going to get role blocked/killed?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 17:57 GMT

#968

On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:

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Why the gumshoe clause? What am I missing?

I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

July 02 2013 17:59 GMT

#969

On July 03 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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I assume there are not 3 town blues. If gumshoe is vigilante, he can't know if Lazer's claim is legit or not.
However, gumshoe, if you are a vig, shoot marv.

Why would you assume that?
Do you think it's fair for there to be the possibility of millers and D2 MYLO if we only get 2 blue roles?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:00 GMT

#970

On July 03 2013 02:54 gumshoe wrote:

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Because it's extremely unlike the setup would be miller + no cop. If i was a miller i would 100% assume there is a cop.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:03 GMT

#971

On July 03 2013 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Why would you assume that?
Do you think it's fair for there to be the possibility of millers and D2 MYLO if we only get 2 blue roles?

Yes i do. If the setup is for example vengeful townie + Vet vs 3 goons. Vet/venge are both "protective" roles. That's a fair assumption. If htere were miller(s) there would be a cop, because millers help parity cops (they can base their checks on them).

Also once one scum dies their KP is 1. Also the "claim role names" helps town, as it's harder for scum to fakeclaim.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

July 02 2013 18:05 GMT

#972

On July 03 2013 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Because it's extremely unlike the setup would be miller + no cop. If i was a miller i would 100% assume there is a cop.

ooooooooooo fuuck thats so obvious. I'm an idiot. Still is it possible that maybe he doubts Lazers claim specifically rather than the existence of cop in general? Seems unlikely even so. Good catch I guess XD

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:06 GMT

#973

If there was a counter-claim it would have been in thread already.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:06 GMT

#974

and marv knows that.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:10 GMT

#975

I'm looking forward to what other people think about this. Especially Vivax/Oats.
Now i fucking know why it was hard to find scum after D1 ended.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:16 GMT

#976

WoS do you want to claim miller?

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

July 02 2013 18:16 GMT

#977

I'm interested to see what marv thinks of it lol

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

July 02 2013 18:16 GMT

#978

On July 03 2013 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS do you want to claim miller?

No, I'm not miller.
I was wondering if people were going to ask me that since I suppose my recent posts could be seen as hinting towards it.

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

July 02 2013 18:17 GMT

#979

Hi everyone, first off I'd like to say I'm quite demoralized after yesterday. I really felt I did a decent job at playing but apparantly not. I'm generally not someone who gets misslynched. Only happend twice (my very first game and a game where I had way too little time to play, and that was D4. This game, time was not really much of an issue) and I would've got lynched for sure had it not been for the fact that I roled cop, a role that is basically useless now). I will try to comment on some stuff but I'd rather not spend too much time playing mafia this day and instead try to do my best tomorrow instead, when I will have alot of free time! Enough with that though, I'll save the discussion on why my play sucked to postgame.

I will not get shot today, not in a million years, so the fact that I'm holding some reads isn't really going to affect the game too much.

If anyone got some questions, feel free to ask!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

July 02 2013 18:17 GMT

#980

wanna lynch marv?