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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 18:45 GMT
#1001
Rayn, what ya think about Solstice? You've barely mentioned him this far.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#1002
On July 03 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 03 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lazer can you show me even one mini game where scum have 2 KP and there were miller(s) but no cop?
Probably not. And I don't feel like searching.

Can you show me a game with 2KP and there were miller(s) but no cop and the ability to semi confirm yourself as town by claiming your role? Because that is the relevant question in this case I'd say.

wtf? How is that relevant? I am saying there is no millers and no cop.

Weren't your point that Marv shouldn't doubt my claim had he been miller?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#1003
Lazer, if you were a miller in this game, would you doubt an uncc'd cop? Why?
I don't care about solstice atm, i care about convincing townies to lynch marv because he is 100% scum.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#1004
Rayn what do you think of my points regarding a scum Stutters? Who would you imagine 3rd scum to be in your case of LM/marv scumteam?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#1005
On July 03 2013 03:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, what ya think about Solstice? You've barely mentioned him this far.

Is this a question you present to your scumread?
Do you think solstice/me are more likely scum than marv?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:52 GMT
#1006
On July 03 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn what do you think of my points regarding a scum Stutters? Who would you imagine 3rd scum to be in your case of LM/marv scumteam?

atm you. Stutters agreed with me instantly when i laid my evidence on marv, i don't think he is scum.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 18:54 GMT
#1007
On July 03 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lazer, if you were a miller in this game, would you doubt an uncc'd cop? Why?
I don't care about solstice atm, i care about convincing townies to lynch marv because he is 100% scum.
Well, I wouldn't consider him confirmed town, if thats what you are thinking. Just like I don't consider Marv confirmed town just becasue I'm cop. The fact that you think this is alignment indicative is really stupid.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 18:54 GMT
#1008
On July 03 2013 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, what ya think about Solstice? You've barely mentioned him this far.

Is this a question you present to your scumread?
Do you think solstice/me are more likely scum than marv?
Lol, I think you are town -.-
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 18:57 GMT
#1009
On July 03 2013 03:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 03:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, what ya think about Solstice? You've barely mentioned him this far.

Is this a question you present to your scumread?
Do you think solstice/me are more likely scum than marv?
Lol, I think you are town -.-

Ehh.. then why do you say "You've barely mentioned him this far."?
Why does it matter to you if i have mentioned him or not if you think i am town?
Townies usually do not mention people who are not their top suspects often.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#1010
On July 03 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:54 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 03 2013 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 03:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Rayn, what ya think about Solstice? You've barely mentioned him this far.

Is this a question you present to your scumread?
Do you think solstice/me are more likely scum than marv?
Lol, I think you are town -.-

Ehh.. then why do you say "You've barely mentioned him this far."?
Why does it matter to you if i have mentioned him or not if you think i am town?
Townies usually do not mention people who are not their top suspects often.
Because you barely had mentioned him this far...

If I think youre town but aren't looking in the right direction, why wouldn't I want to change that?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#1011
On July 03 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn what do you think of my points regarding a scum Stutters? Who would you imagine 3rd scum to be in your case of LM/marv scumteam?

atm you. Stutters agreed with me instantly when i laid my evidence on marv, i don't think he is scum.

I think you're going to have to come up with something better than "people who agree with me instantly aren't scum."
First of all I do agree with you in that I find marv to be the most likely to be scum atm, but I always consider other options as well---considering that there have been games where presence of roles that can mess with cop do not necessarily indicate cop does not mean I disagree with you.

Second of all if you find Stutters town and me scum, do you have any other reasoning for this?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 19:03 GMT
#1012
I don't see anything scummy in Solstice's posts. His interactions with marv make me think he is even more townier than before.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 19:04 GMT
#1013
On July 03 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't see anything scummy in Solstice's posts. His interactions with marv make me think he is even more townier than before.
But aren't you basing everything on that Marv is scum then? Drawing conclusions between unflipped players are dangerous...If you disregard Marv what do you think of him? His action during teh lynch etc?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 19:09 GMT
#1014
On July 03 2013 04:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 03 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn what do you think of my points regarding a scum Stutters? Who would you imagine 3rd scum to be in your case of LM/marv scumteam?

atm you. Stutters agreed with me instantly when i laid my evidence on marv, i don't think he is scum.

I think you're going to have to come up with something better than "people who agree with me instantly aren't scum."
First of all I do agree with you in that I find marv to be the most likely to be scum atm, but I always consider other options as well---considering that there have been games where presence of roles that can mess with cop do not necessarily indicate cop does not mean I disagree with you.

Second of all if you find Stutters town and me scum, do you have any other reasoning for this?

No i don't, regarding Stutters. Only thing he has done that's weird in my opinion is his behaviour near lynch where he asks marv "what should i look for regarding vayne?" and then doesn't post before the lynch. But him agreeing with me on this marv thing is insta-town-tell.

You have not done much on D1, i suggest you think hard if what i say makes sense and act accordingly. The easiest explanation is usually the right one, and here it is that marv fucked up regarding Lazer (whatever he is) and is mafia. He was not thinking from miller!PoV when he doubted Lazer's claim.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 19:13 GMT
#1015
On July 03 2013 04:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't see anything scummy in Solstice's posts. His interactions with marv make me think he is even more townier than before.
But aren't you basing everything on that Marv is scum then? Drawing conclusions between unflipped players are dangerous...If you disregard Marv what do you think of him? His action during teh lynch etc?

My solstice read (or any other read) has not been in connection with marv. I had a hard time finding mafia, and at the start of N1 my scum reads were fuba/you, which i have already said in thread. gumshoe was null, and everyone else more or less town.

Now gumshoe has claimed, i am sure marv is scum, i am semi-sure Lazer is scum, i am not sure of you and fuba. I don't know how you usually treat situations like this (when you need to think from some other person's point of view with a different role you actually are) but i am shocked you (and Lazer, but that was kinda expected) can't see what i see here.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 02 2013 19:14 GMT
#1016
No Rayn, what is your reasoning for thinking I'm scum? I brought up suspicion of my own towards marv before you showed up and I agreed with you at the same time as he did, I just didn't act the same way Stutters has been acting all game and riding a suspected townplayer's dick.

If my not licking your boots for coming up with what you did is why you think I'm scum then good luck.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2013 19:15 GMT
#1017
On July 03 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 04:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 03 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't see anything scummy in Solstice's posts. His interactions with marv make me think he is even more townier than before.
But aren't you basing everything on that Marv is scum then? Drawing conclusions between unflipped players are dangerous...If you disregard Marv what do you think of him? His action during teh lynch etc?

My solstice read (or any other read) has not been in connection with marv. I had a hard time finding mafia, and at the start of N1 my scum reads were fuba/you, which i have already said in thread. gumshoe was null, and everyone else more or less town.

Now gumshoe has claimed, i am sure marv is scum, i am semi-sure Lazer is scum, i am not sure of you and fuba. I don't know how you usually treat situations like this (when you need to think from some other person's point of view with a different role you actually are) but i am shocked you (and Lazer, but that was kinda expected) can't see what i see here.

EBWOP: replace all "you" with WoS, i thought i was responding to WoS.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 02 2013 19:16 GMT
#1018
Am I the only one who find it insanely ironic that Rayn is getting shit stormed like mad D1 because he didn't react to the miller claim from "the PoV that town should have done", yet he is all over marv becuase he didn't react to the cop claim from "the PoV that miller should have"?

Seriously Rayn, pull your shit together...
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 02 2013 19:16 GMT
#1019
On July 03 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 04:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
On July 03 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't see anything scummy in Solstice's posts. His interactions with marv make me think he is even more townier than before.
But aren't you basing everything on that Marv is scum then? Drawing conclusions between unflipped players are dangerous...If you disregard Marv what do you think of him? His action during teh lynch etc?

My solstice read (or any other read) has not been in connection with marv. I had a hard time finding mafia, and at the start of N1 my scum reads were fuba/you, which i have already said in thread. gumshoe was null, and everyone else more or less town.

Now gumshoe has claimed, i am sure marv is scum, i am semi-sure Lazer is scum, i am not sure of you and fuba. I don't know how you usually treat situations like this (when you need to think from some other person's point of view with a different role you actually are) but i am shocked you (and Lazer, but that was kinda expected) can't see what i see here.

WTF Rayn? Why do you think I don't see what you do? I've said multiple times I agree that your scenario is more likely, I just don't want to completely exclude other possibilities. Mafia is a game of likelihoods and since your scenario is most likely in the case of marv, I would be voting him during the day (or Stutters, though I don't think I'm getting much support for that).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 02 2013 19:18 GMT
#1020
On July 03 2013 04:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
Am I the only one who find it insanely ironic that Rayn is getting shit stormed like mad D1 because he didn't react to the miller claim from "the PoV that town should have done", yet he is all over marv becuase he didn't react to the cop claim from "the PoV that miller should have"?

Seriously Rayn, pull your shit together...

I didn't even bother with all that shit D1 honestly.
Should I go back and try to sift through it? I doubt Rayn is scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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