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Stutters695
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June 22 2013 17:48 GMT
#8
/in
Stutters695
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July 06 2013 22:21 GMT
#201
Hi guys. Going to be afk most of today, I'll be back tomorrow in full. Don't shoot me because that would be retarded kthx.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#256
Want a nuke gumshoe?
Stutters695
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July 06 2013 23:12 GMT
#260
That's Mr. Santa to you.
Stutters695
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July 07 2013 13:40 GMT
#458
I'm awake, what's up guys?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 07 2013 14:09 GMT
#461
You? I have no idea, this is really my first time reading the thread. Trying to catch up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 08 2013 13:09 GMT
#908
Ok finally have some time to play. Anyone you guys want nee checking out?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 08 2013 14:00 GMT
#914
Tan what do you mean by lonely scum?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 08 2013 17:59 GMT
#1113
SnB nuke fishing doesn't mean he's not town though, could be something as simple as a vet to God knows how crazy.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 08 2013 18:44 GMT
#1144
^

post of the thread
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 08 2013 18:44 GMT
#1145
Goddamn sniped, that was at Austin's
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 08 2013 19:01 GMT
#1161
On July 09 2013 03:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
lool nice post of the thread stutters. who you gonna vote for boy


DI. He's scum
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 08 2013 19:02 GMT
#1163
##vote: Dandel Ion
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 09 2013 17:01 GMT
#1733
I'm here in full force now that basterd is done. Sorry about that, tense last couple of days for me lol.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 10 2013 23:35 GMT
#1989
I'm so far behind. Ace who would you recommend I look at?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 11 2013 00:30 GMT
#1997
Nah that'd be dumb.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 11 2013 01:04 GMT
#2011
I work a lot sorry guys

Anyway gonna go analyze onegu. Hold tight.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 11 2013 01:06 GMT
#2012
On July 11 2013 09:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 09:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Nah that'd be dumb.

No. You choosing to not do shit is dumb. Here, I'm giving you 3 nukes. You must fire them today. Who you firing at and why?

Not choosing. Not having time. I literally have no idea who I'd nuke yet.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#2610
Going to get to play today finally but Sent that's terrible reasoning. My scum game had significantly more posting than this and Vayne was the only person who even had a scum read on me. If you want to shoot me because I'm lurking I'll live with that but I have no reason to change my scum play when no one could tell it was my scum play to begin with. You'd be shooting on a complete gamble you'd lose.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 16:56 GMT
#2618
On July 13 2013 01:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 01:35 CaucasianAsian wrote:
On July 12 2013 19:20 Koshi wrote:
Top 3 inactives from most scummy to less scummy.
1. Stutters (wtf)
2. CA
3. Gumshoe

CA is actually being here, while Gumshoe just left the building.


can you explain why you think I'm scummy? I'm nothing but townnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. fuck life is busy. woke up, went to class, worked out, met my professor friend guy (awesome guy, he travels the world and talks to presidents of the world, seriously he does this... fucking awesome guy), grabbed dinner, drank a beer, ate a second dinner, drank some more, but it's raining as hell so i'm wet as fucjk.


That was my inactive list. You are not listed on my scummy list. Can't blame me for saying that you are inactive.


I can blame you for making a useless post then. What was the point of it if you're not saying anything except hey these guys lurk.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 12 2013 16:58 GMT
#2619
On July 13 2013 01:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 01:19 Stutters695 wrote:
Going to get to play today finally but Sent that's terrible reasoning. My scum game had significantly more posting than this and Vayne was the only person who even had a scum read on me. If you want to shoot me because I'm lurking I'll live with that but I have no reason to change my scum play when no one could tell it was my scum play to begin with. You'd be shooting on a complete gamble you'd lose.

Wrong. I did too but I was 3P so I didn't really give a shit.

You also said part of it was BH putting me as scum coach for the newbie so I don't count that :p
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#2624
Ace definitely has a nuke. I gave it to him.
Stutters695
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July 12 2013 18:34 GMT
#2628
Leaning town on him and town Ace would put it to the best use imo.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 12 2013 18:59 GMT
#2641
I make nukes that may or may not be duds. It's rngd or some shit.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 12 2013 20:29 GMT
#2656
On July 13 2013 04:06 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 04:02 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:59 Stutters695 wrote:
I make nukes that may or may not be duds. It's rngd or some shit.

I don't understand the abbreviation. Can you post your role pm? When do you make nukes? When can you deliver them to others?

random number generated. I'd still like to see the role PM though


You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 20:57 GMT
#2662
On July 13 2013 05:42 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:29 Stutters695 wrote:
On July 13 2013 04:06 johnnywup wrote:
On July 13 2013 04:02 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 13 2013 03:59 Stutters695 wrote:
I make nukes that may or may not be duds. It's rngd or some shit.

I don't understand the abbreviation. Can you post your role pm? When do you make nukes? When can you deliver them to others?

random number generated. I'd still like to see the role PM though


You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.
Don't like the look of this.

You choose a nuke type, with no mention of nuke types in the PM. Indicates both that you've had knowledge of different types of nukes AND that you're altering/omitting things from your PM.


It's exactly what you see. I wasn't told any types of nukes just that I can make them, thus I sent Ace a standard nuke.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 12 2013 20:58 GMT
#2663
And I didn't send a nuke to anyone d1
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
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July 12 2013 21:53 GMT
#2678
On July 13 2013 06:26 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 05:58 Stutters695 wrote:
And I didn't send a nuke to anyone d1


Why not?

There were enough floating around already and I didn't have a solid enough town read to give it to due to not being here
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 22:38 GMT
#2703
Ace your nuke is fake. Here's my real role PM. I changed it to only sometimes fake to try and get NK'd to stop it but I got a PM saying it got raided and destroyed so no need for that anymore.

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 22:45 GMT
#2709
At this point I'm lynchbait. Literally my best course of action was to try and get shot by scum so people don't want to lynch me and it would get rid of a moderately useless role.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 22:50 GMT
#2714
Your "nuke" didn't get destroyed. My factory did when the day post came up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 23:05 GMT
#2722
Austin trying to get me lynched off of wording of PMs. That's cute.

Also scummy as shit.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 23:54 GMT
#2755
I'm not lying lol. Also Austin look at hot I played scum. It was very methodical. Do you honestly think if I was faking a claim on my own(without using my real role to base it off of) I wouldn't look at the dead people/claimed rules to design my wording?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#2757
Ace what are you talking about with Austin knowing shit in advance?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 00:19 GMT
#2763
On July 13 2013 09:00 austinmcc wrote:
Stutters did you ask what different types of nukes you could choose from?

I did not.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 03:25 GMT
#2787
On July 13 2013 12:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 11:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Sigh.

Well I think the next course of action is in the voting thread.

хорошо играл товарищ! в следующий раз, послать кого-нибудь, как волна тени или "Onegu» или себя, кто-то, как "Xata", который так город, они, вероятно, умрут опасна ... Nonetheless wise in the moment, but this is why I had picked ace at first. I figured he had suspicion so would last the night unmolested.




I thought we were going to stop writeing in russian, I am to lazy to translate even though I see my name.

@stutters why didnt you make a different type of nuke. Most people had xata as town and with his claim a radiation nuke would have been much better, are you just lazy?


Reading comprehension bro. I couldn't make real nukes. Promising someone everyone think thinks is town a buff doesn't have the same potential for generating discussion as a nuke that ace thought was lethal to his target.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 05:18 GMT
#2801
^ new post of the thread
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 17:36 GMT
#2823
Can we nuke CA after that?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 17:39 GMT
#2824
##vote: MajuGarzett

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 21:19 GMT
#2849
Johnny you're an idiot. That was my role PM.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 13 2013 21:23 GMT
#2851
Right and you're wrong. I explained why I faked it the first time and have shared my full role PM. Now I'm just another VT but I have a fancy new name which is kinda sweet.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 03:51 GMT
#2865
Because he isn't town.

Spoiler alert, they probably knew it was a fake since they had a legit nuke maker who's role was only to give a nuke d2 so the fact that I offered one d1 probably typed them off.

Second part was at greipt
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 04:04 GMT
#2870
The game is always winnable unless it's the endgame post.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 13:11 GMT
#2953
Well the thread exploded again. That's good. Going to catch up real quick.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 14:15 GMT
#2967
On July 14 2013 13:53 Onegu wrote:
And his claim timeing is so random also, why claim then you are asking to have your factory blown up then and telling everyone it is fake takes away the info we gain.


First, I gave him the nuke because I was hoping he wasn't going to nuke someone he thought was scummy but not the obvious target. I can think of very few scenarios where scum would have nuked outside of MG but if there was anyone who could pull it off and not get lynched I'd pick Ace to do it. I didn't want to just toss it out there and hope scum slipped up since that should never happen in that position unless I'm missing something

@the quote above

It was in no way random. Multiple people had asked me to claim(if you're talking about the Chinese claim). If you're talking about the second claim I didn't want the lynch to leave someone that I'm almost certain is scum. If town thinks that my nuke is real we'd lynch someone else and let him get dealt with. Since it was already out there that I can make nukes in some capacity and scum know I'm telling the truth I assume they destroyed my shit (I think Austin is scum pending a reread so that would make sense that he destroyed it) there was no reason not to tell the full truth at that point.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 15:13 GMT
#2985
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that


Think logically Vayne. What purpose would my role serve if all it did was tell someone they had a nuke they could fire via ##nuke: x and then didn't even launch. If anything that would just get whoever tried to fire lynched for "lying"about having a nuke. If I was scum there is literally 9 reason for me to claim such a role and as town it isn't a stretch to assume that them being told they received that nuke means they can fire it but won't actually do anything. If that's not the case I don't get this role at all and I'm glad it's gone now.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 15:18 GMT
#2987
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.


I added the nuke won't always work part to try and keep the threat of the nuke actually blowing someone up alive. It should be pretty obvious what I adjusted considering i kept the format and the wording, only changing what made sense to show that the nuke could go off.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 15:50 GMT
#2997
On July 15 2013 00:34 Koshi wrote:
I am willing to vote on geript, Austin, CA, gumshoe, Chezinu. In that order.
Day 4:
MG if the nuke is fake
Stutters if the nuke is real

It sucks that we can only kill 1 guy a day. That's really stupid imo and makes this game pretty slow.

If for some reason the nuke goes off and it kills MG that means Ace lied about receiving a nuke and really received 2 or had one plus the one I gave him. Ideally in that case you'd lynch him over me but if it takes my flip to trade with a scum Ace so be it, I'll take that trade any day.

That said that's such a convoluted and unlikely scenario considering I think Ace is town, I'm really expecting it to just fizzle.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 16:35 GMT
#3007
I'm working an Austin case during downtime at work but he'd be my number 1 non-MG lynch.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 17:22 GMT
#3034
On July 15 2013 01:43 johnnywup wrote:
i thought s0lstice was nuked. broken game

oh yeah, unvote for now. I was liking an austin lynch a lot yesterday but he's been making a lot of good posts lately and aghhhhhhh. I don't know.

##unvote

His "good" posts consist of trying to get me lynched for lying about a role PM in a closed setup by comparing me to completely different roles.

His only other suggestion is that I'm the silent nuker since he raided me and there hasn't been one. Look where he blatantly contradicts himself in that same post.

"I don't think the silent nukes can come from a super inactive player"

yet "I'm still near-convinced that stutters is lying about his role PM. I cannot explain the lack of silent nuke today beyond stutters being the silent nuker."

These aren't contributions, he's pushing a mislynch on setup speculation when countless games have proved that's not reliable in anything but an open setup (Les Mis and Basterd to name two recent ones I've played in).

Austin isn't dumb, thus I'm inclined to believe he's scum
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 17:28 GMT
#3040
Or the hosts felt that having a role with the knowledge of every type of nuke on towns side would be game breaking? Or the host forgot to say toy store owner. There are plenty of scenarios that fit this yet you aren't even considering them.

Sentinel I answered what you're saying I didn't.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 17:59 GMT
#3059
On July 15 2013 02:58 johnnywup wrote:
I'm not convinced. The fact that mods didn't answer your question isn't a fucking scumtell -.-

That's not but his filter is.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 18:03 GMT
#3061
Austin who do you want to lynch? Still me?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 18:45 GMT
#3077
Who do you want to lynch most Austin?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 19:08 GMT
#3081
##unvote
##vote: Austin
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 19:32 GMT
#3093
Z-bos how is shooting down a nuke on a town risky? A scum life is worth like 4 town generally(unless it's something like the by letting him die it gives them an endgame quicker.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 19:37 GMT
#3099
I'll dive Onegu/SnB real quick when I get a chance at work. If we aren't doing Austin I can dig that.

Ace just to confirm you only received 1 nuke d2 right?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 19:55 GMT
#3111
Haven't read Onegu yet but just based off of SnB I can almost guarantee I'd be more in favor of SnB unless I catch something major.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 20:31 GMT
#3130
Eh we can deal with Austin later. I'm in on a SnB lynch.

##unvote
##vote SnB
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 21:18 GMT
#3172
On July 15 2013 06:08 geript wrote:
Also, @Stutters... Don't you think Austin is scum... Why are you voting with him on SnB?

Because I'm having a hard time reconciling the four immunes all being town and this wouldn't be an unreasonable bus.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#3186
Gumshoe will get what's coming but I'd rather address either the immunes or Austin. The longer it's unresolved the more it dominates discussion and the less we get done.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 21:29 GMT
#3190
Also my read on Austin is capable of changing. My read on someone lurking as hard as SnB won't and we'll have to deal with him. I'd rather sooner rather than later.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 21:48 GMT
#3225
My vote is on gumshoe. I'm going to fucking go off if he's town.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 21:53 GMT
#3238
If the nuke kills MG I lied about it being fake and am thus scum. Once I flip town in that case Ace is then scum for lying about only getting one nuke(mine) and not stating that he fired a separate one. If the nuke is a dud I'm at least being partially truthful about my role regardless of if you actually believe my PM.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 21:56 GMT
#3243
I'd consider my play today assisting town. I wasn't here before so I couldn't really assist.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 14 2013 22:41 GMT
#3306
On July 15 2013 06:57 geript wrote:
@Stutters... So if you're town and you know the nuke is fake then why aren't you trying to lynch Maju?

Pretty sure I explained this earlier. We aren't getting endgamed tonight unless crazy shit happens. People thought I was lying about my role PM and thus I'm a detriment to town that you have to deal with. By letting my nuke go off and show it wasn't real/the missile defense saying they are places rather than people, it completely negates the need to deal with me if town has a brain.

So by that logic lynching Maju actually only saves town a death, even if we assume that a Maju lynch actually reduces KP. (Nk+mislynch+nk) compared to mislynch 2nk, maju nk. If there was assurance of this kill reducing KP I would have been all about it however without that insurance there was a 50% chance of kp rounding up, making absolutely no difference in the amount of deaths of town and it makes me an obviously horrible lynch. Combined with my belief that Austin was scum, the necessity of dealing with the SnB/Onegu situation it was a gamble I was willing to take.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 15 2013 17:08 GMT
#3344
So why should we send nukes to someone who didn't even know it was the night phase?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 15 2013 20:31 GMT
#3375
On July 16 2013 04:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
As much as I love being confirmed town and not obligated to post anything useful, here are some rationales

Stutters All he's done is lurk and admit his role is to give fake nukes to people. As a towny, this role has questionable use other than trolling. He could give them to scummers but scummers already have silent nukes. So he could just give it to someone he thinks is a scummer and watch who he hits, learning who is town through multiple layers of WIFOM, enough to make the reads those nukes give questionable. If he gives them to towns, well that just hampers the town effort.

Note that a Cheap Chinese Nuke Manufacturer could be a blue role. You vig your townreads and hope that they can kill a scum or two with your nukes, but no guarantees the nukes work. A Toy Store has no benefit to town.

Chezinu I just don't like him. First he speaks in ways that make no sense to me and then he lurks for the second half of the game. His voting patters combined with general ninjavoting suggest to me, as well as spoilering his townreads, suggest to me that he doesn't actually want to push anything and can just settle for someone else pushing the wrong person and then piggybacking on that wagon.

strongandbig contributes nothing and is happy with contributing nothing.

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On July 10 2013 23:26 strongandbig wrote:
Hi newbmen

I want to lynch vayne today. Or possibly Austin, or if someone writes a big case on someone else I'll consider it. I don't want to lynch ace yet but I guess I will actually have to look into his filter if people really want to go for him. Can someone summarize or make explicit the case on him?


Back when I was playing 5 games at the same time this guy would've been textbook scum to me, except then I learned that Vayne did exactly the same thing in Roulette and rolled town. Maybe he's lazy, just like me. So no, I don't think he's a scummer.

Why do you think I tried to get Ace to scare someone into contributing before the died. I really didn't get how to use my role, except d1 during the confusion, which I wasn't here for.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 16 2013 00:47 GMT
#3500
Before anyone goes full retard and nukes me, answer this.

In what way, at all, would my actions work towards a scum wincon compared to not even claiming the nuke and letting the vote switch off Maju and coasting like I had been all game?

Additionally, why is no one suspicious of the fact that Austin destroyed my shit when he was under the impression that it might kill someone everyone was ready to lynch instead of asking if I would give my nuke to a person of towns choosing. Instead he destroyed it because of setup speculation. If you want to talk about an anti-town role, I'd say his usage is way worse than mine.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 16 2013 16:59 GMT
#3608
Sentinel I have a question for you.

You said I was your top nuke target yet hours later you nuked Austin. What gives?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 16 2013 19:06 GMT
#3623
Anyone care to comment on my last two posts regarding Sent/Austin?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 16 2013 19:20 GMT
#3625
On July 16 2013 09:47 Stutters695 wrote:
Before anyone goes full retard and nukes me, answer this.

In what way, at all, would my actions work towards a scum wincon compared to not even claiming the nuke and letting the vote switch off Maju and coasting like I had been all game?

Additionally, why is no one suspicious of the fact that Austin destroyed my shit when he was under the impression that it might kill someone everyone was ready to lynch instead of asking if I would give my nuke to a person of towns choosing. Instead he destroyed it because of setup speculation. If you want to talk about an anti-town role, I'd say his usage is way worse than mine.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 16 2013 19:21 GMT
#3626
On July 17 2013 01:59 Stutters695 wrote:
Sentinel I have a question for you.

You said I was your top nuke target yet hours later you nuked Austin. What gives?

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 16 2013 20:33 GMT
#3629
Literally the post before it of his called for a lynch on both of us but as far as I can tell I'm his top scum read over Austin. I want to hear what he has to say, but why wouldn't he nuke me there?

The Austin quote revolves around a couple things. First his only case against me was based entirely off of me lying to make my role seem worthwhile and setup speculation that I couldn't be a place. I gave Ace a "nuke" from my toy store that I told the thread may or may not be real which was used on a scum read of the majority of the thread and someone Austin was unsure of, but I got the impression from his posts he was scummy. So if he thought Maju was scummy he destroyed what he should have believed was a nuke factory that was used for towns advantage because of setup speculation making him think I'm scum. That isn't a good reason to destroy town KP and it's sketchy.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 17 2013 14:42 GMT
#3704
Well I guess now we just hope we're not in an impossible to win situation pending who actually dies?

##vote: Maju Garzett
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 17 2013 17:17 GMT
#3723
Yeah I'm not scum so you definitely messed something up in your reasoning. Interested in who is confirmed scum otherwise though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 18 2013 19:30 GMT
#3925
On July 19 2013 04:04 geript wrote:
Ok, since I'm going to die. You guys need to lynch Chez tomorrow. Just trust me on this, it's like the right play. I haven't seen any good reads from him. Hell he's barely providing reads whatsoever. He's not doing much other than trolling. The combination of not pushing good wagons, not providing good reads and solely trolling is pretty scummy especially since that's essentially Chez's scum meta (or at least as much of it as I know).

That said, I still think Stutters has a great shot for 3p. Chez is likely a scum aligned toy factory or something similar imo. I think the plan was to have Chez shoot a town target D1 and have Oats defend a fake shot for town cred.

For right now, I'd ignore CA. Onegu is looking rather scummy to me from the voting history and I didn't like much in his filter but I'll need to review it again. I'll post more after I get back from the store.

I'm not 3p but unless you believe that 3p can make fake nukes for town cred I can't be 3p. Even if I could give fake nukes I would have no incentive to. By giving fake nukes and claiming it I put myself in a terrible position with all this scrutiny compared to claiming that I was just a VT or something. Considering my only mislynch still was in Whose Line where the game was solved and it really didn't matter if I got lynched or the other guy. If I was playing 3p I would have coasted to endgame like I always do rather than bring a shitload of attention to myself.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 18 2013 23:04 GMT
#3934
GG guys.

So who do you want to lynch today? Gonna do some more in depth reading but Chez is looking like a good choice.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 19 2013 22:53 GMT
#3950
Or it could be an SK?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 17:20 GMT
#3962
On July 20 2013 22:41 Koshi wrote:
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On July 20 2013 07:53 Stutters695 wrote:
Or it could be an SK?

If it is one.
1) Scum isn't targeting him.
2) He isn't targeting scum.

We got to pray that we get the radiated super scum this lynch. After that we got to pray that there are no new nukes on Day 6. As it will be 3 vs 2.

##Vote: CaucasianAsian

How would it be 3v2 exactly?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 17:28 GMT
#3964
Has CA been scum before?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 17:29 GMT
#3965
Give me one good reason CA is town oats.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 17:38 GMT
#3967
Good enough for me

##vote: CaucasianAsian

Seems like a really obvious first time scummer, but you already know that don't you?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 22:06 GMT
#3973
Well we definitely deserved to lose, sorry for ny absence d1 d2
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 23:44 GMT
#3999
I knew it was some combo of Koshi/Oats/Chez/CA but CA was my main choice and Koshi had a couple inconsistencies I noticed but nothing I felt was that bad compared to how anti town everyone else(town included) was.

GGWP
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 20 2013 23:49 GMT
#4000
And by that I mean I really wouldn't have lynched Koshi unless we got through the others without getting endgamed. GG, def had me fooled.
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