On July 18 2013 07:18 johnnywup wrote:
yeah chez you look pretty scummy for being so hesitant to nuke ace. but I don't know because it's you and you seem to have a history

geript, why is oats scum?

Look at who he's protected and tell me they both aren't scum and he had good reasons for suspected Ace to be town.

geript

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July 17 2013 22:29 GMT

#3863

Plus, no way town has 2 multishot protectors

geript

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July 17 2013 22:45 GMT

#3867

There was one point that austin made about Chezinu that really struck home with me. Namely that Chezinu is like #1 troll extraordinaire, but that his reads are actually quite good and he has a fun, interesting way to pass those reads on. Much like in LX, his play comes off as complacent. Just ready to shoot whoever or whatever. My main concern right now is moreso that he's just trolling without actual effort. He's more than happy to continue trolling with me, but not really passing reads from what I can tell at all.

geript

10024 Posts

July 17 2013 22:49 GMT

#3868

Really though I'll have more when I finish rereading filters.

geript

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July 18 2013 04:27 GMT

#3872

On July 18 2013 08:12 johnnywup wrote:
so you think he's scum because of meta?

No I think he's scum because he intentionally hasn't done shit at all this game which just happens to also coincide with his meta.

geript

10024 Posts

July 18 2013 04:27 GMT

#3873

@Koshi ... So you want to explain that scum read on my now? Or do you just want to concede that I'm likely to die tonight and we can get over it.

geript

10024 Posts

July 18 2013 05:16 GMT

#3879

@ Onegu. Please visit Chezinu tonight.

geript

10024 Posts

July 18 2013 06:32 GMT

#3882

@Whoop who do you think is scum?

geript

10024 Posts

July 18 2013 11:27 GMT

#3894

Voting Analysis Nuke
+ Show Spoiler [Day1] +

Day 1:
Rayn votes geript
DI votes geript
Vayne votes Whoop
Rayn switches to Chez
Xat votes Whoop
WoS votes Whoop
TG votes Whoop
Abenson/Sent votes Whoop
Whoop votes WoS
ON votes Whoop
WoS unvotes Whoop
Onegu votes Chezinu
Xat unvotes Whoop
NG votes Onegu
Maju votes Onegu
ON unvotes Whoop
Alakaslam votes Rayn
Alakaslam unvotes Rayn
Whoop unvotes WoS
Ace votes Chez
TG switches to Chez
Chez votes ZBoson
Abenson/Sent votes Chez
Onegu votes Abenson/Sent
Whoop votes DI
Oats votes NG
Alakaslam votes Ghost/Koshi
Chezinue votes Ghost/Koshi
FT votes Vayne
Alakaslam switches to Vayne
Xat switches to Chezinu
Rayn votes NG
Jampi votes NG
Ace unvotes Chez
Rayn switches to Chez
WoS switches to DI
Jampi switches to Chez
Gumshoe votes Chez
ON votes DI
Ace switches to DI
Vayne switches to DI
S&B votes DI
Alakaslam votes DI
Geript switches to CA
Stutters votes DI
ZBoson votes CA
Chez switches to Oats
Alakaslam unvotes DI
Chez votes jampi
TG unvotes Chezinu
Austin votes ON
Chez switches to ON
Rayn switches to ON
DI votes ON
Xat votes ON
FT votes ON
Alakaslam switches to ON
Geript switches to ON
Alakaslam switches to Vayne
Geript switches to Alakaslam
Ghost/Koshi votes ON
FT switches to Vayne
Chezinu switches to Vayne
Chezinu switches back to ON
Geript switches back to ON
NG switches to DI
TG switches to DI
Gumshoe switches to ON
Whoops switches to ON
Onegu votes ON
fin

[/green]

+ Show Spoiler [Day 2] +

Day 2:
Whoop votes DI
Xat votes Ace
Ace votes DI
FT votes jampi
WoS votes DI
Oats votes austin
Austin votes DI
Vayne votes Maju
Sent votes DI/XX
Chezinu votes jampi
Xat switches to Maju
Maju votes Vayne
Sent votes Maju (note after nuking DI)
CA votes Sent
Alakaslam votes Vayne
FT votes Ace
Chez switches to Vayne
Jampi votes Maju
Oats unvotes austin
WoS switches to Maju
Geript votes Maju
Alakaslam switches to Maju
Ace votes Maju
S&B votes Vayne
Koshi votes Maju
Alakaslam switches to FT
Whoop votes Maju
Alakaslam switches back to Maju
Xat switches to Vayne
Tofu switches to Vayne
Austin votes jampi
Xat votes jampi
Tofu votes jampi
Geript switches to jampi
Whoop switches to jampi
Zboson votes jampi
Geript switches back to maju
Vayne votes jampi
Geript switches back to jampi
Koshi votes jampi
Onegu votes jampi
Stutters votes jampi
Ace votes jampi
Alakaslam votes jampi
fin

I could go onto day 3 but right now I don't see a point to do so right now.

On Oats:
1. Oats has voted for scum once (perhaps twice is S&B is scum)... Today. This caught my attention some
2. When you read Oats filter, you don't see any actual analysis. There's no real attempt to explain his viewpoint or push a lynch whatsoever.
3. When you read Oats filter, you see a bunch of one-liners. A lot of it is random questions towards players that tend to follow thread sentiment. He's not obnoxious at all, but nothing of what he asks is terribly relevant or important either.
4. He never follows up on his reads. As town, you need to figure out alignments, as scum you really don't. None of his questions aim towards a specific point. He doesn't do anything with the 'pressure' he tries to push.
5. He doesn't really interact on most of the key issues pertinent at the time. He essentially ignores most of the maju v jampi stuff. Hell he practically gives maju a free pass for no reason.
6. He has a copmletely inexplicable town read on Chezinu and posted that he's fine with Maju/Ace.

Oats is scum.

More later after I get to sleep some.

geript

10024 Posts

July 18 2013 11:30 GMT

#3896

@Koshi. Please look at Onegu's, Alakaslam's, Chezinu's, Caucasianasian and Stutter's filters. Please give me your opinion on these 5 players and why you think they're scum or town.

geript

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July 18 2013 11:35 GMT

#3899

On July 18 2013 20:28 Koshi wrote:
Did nobody see that WoS died? How is this not the main topic of discussion?
Nuke towards Chez got destroyed. Who was it? I can only see Hosts decided to let the defense from Oats count?
CA his nuke didn't count? So this guy doesn't die from nukes, sends nukes, and is likely sending silent nukes. wtf?

We noticed, there's just not a real reason to try and figure it out because of the closed setup. Better to just try and find scum and worry about the other stuff later. Oats shot down Chez's nuke so far as we can tell. Chez's nuke is a mystery box; it could be a radiation nuke to try and power up CA, it could be a dud, it could be a toy, who knows. Don't worry about it. Worry about finding scum and why they're scum. The only really important analysis of WoS that can be done is that they likely wanted to break up the WoS-Geript alliance and remove a hacker. I'm guessing that they may have a silent hacker and I'm likely to die tonight so... we'll see.

geript

10024 Posts

July 18 2013 11:35 GMT

#3900

I have a few more scum reads that I'll post before the night is done. Don't worry about that.

geript

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July 18 2013 19:04 GMT

#3924

Ok, since I'm going to die. You guys need to lynch Chez tomorrow. Just trust me on this, it's like the right play. I haven't seen any good reads from him. Hell he's barely providing reads whatsoever. He's not doing much other than trolling. The combination of not pushing good wagons, not providing good reads and solely trolling is pretty scummy especially since that's essentially Chez's scum meta (or at least as much of it as I know).

That said, I still think Stutters has a great shot for 3p. Chez is likely a scum aligned toy factory or something similar imo. I think the plan was to have Chez shoot a town target D1 and have Oats defend a fake shot for town cred.

For right now, I'd ignore CA. Onegu is looking rather scummy to me from the voting history and I didn't like much in his filter but I'll need to review it again. I'll post more after I get back from the store.