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Ok, I see your point, but with Xatalos putting scum on your head and I don't liking a Stutters lynch myself I am not going to follow you here.
I actually really like johnnywup atm. His interaction with gumshoe was hopefully sarcastic but his last post was really good. VA and WoS are probably not on scum together. Or they were faking a pretty fantastic conversation.
SnB is on my dislike list. I agree that Austin can be lynched for Xatalos sake but it's too thin... We should ask a mod on how many temp bans Xatalos has had on TL so far. Because for some strange reason he included that in his post and it compelled me. Somebody knows how to do that in the search bar? I know it is possible.
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Nah, he's just boasting that he's certain in his reads, but he'll end up being wrong on me (Oh my, just like me with ON and jampi, maybe that makes him scum? Nope, probably not!).
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Deadline is in 8 hours, we need a votecount
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We shouldnt be lynching lurkers at this point, it really should be austin, z-bosan, or S&b as they have much more scummy posts and actions than a lurker.
Anyone not agree on z-bosan, he waffles so much haveing scum reads or votes on half the people in this game.
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There are too many targets... Sentinel can you make a good case on somebody? You are like the only confirmed town atm.
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Gumshoe ninja vote on stutters
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On July 14 2013 13:53 Onegu wrote:
And his claim timeing is so random also, why claim then you are asking to have your factory blown up then and telling everyone it is fake takes away the info we gain.
First, I gave him the nuke because I was hoping he wasn't going to nuke someone he thought was scummy but not the obvious target. I can think of very few scenarios where scum would have nuked outside of MG but if there was anyone who could pull it off and not get lynched I'd pick Ace to do it. I didn't want to just toss it out there and hope scum slipped up since that should never happen in that position unless I'm missing something
@the quote above
It was in no way random. Multiple people had asked me to claim(if you're talking about the Chinese claim). If you're talking about the second claim I didn't want the lynch to leave someone that I'm almost certain is scum. If town thinks that my nuke is real we'd lynch someone else and let him get dealt with. Since it was already out there that I can make nukes in some capacity and scum know I'm telling the truth I assume they destroyed my shit (I think Austin is scum pending a reread so that would make sense that he destroyed it) there was no reason not to tell the full truth at that point.
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On July 14 2013 23:09 Onegu wrote:
We shouldnt be lynching lurkers at this point, it really should be austin, z-bosan, or S&b as they have much more scummy posts and actions than a lurker.
Anyone not agree on z-bosan, he waffles so much haveing scum reads or votes on half the people in this game. You believe stutters to be a lurker? You believe strongandbig to...not be lurking?
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On July 14 2013 23:12 Koshi wrote:
There are too many targets... Sentinel can you make a good case on somebody? You are like the only confirmed town atm.
How is he confimed town he hasnt done much at all and it is possible his nuke was a bus nuke on dandel/xigzag.
@Sentinel how did you get a nuke and do you have more?
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Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe.
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Sent if you can you should nuke somebody else today to make our lynch options easier.
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On July 14 2013 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sent if you can you should nuke somebody else today to make our lynch options easier.
arent we past the 12hr now?
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On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them.
Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided.
You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me?
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On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me?
At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info.
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On July 14 2013 23:23 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sent if you can you should nuke somebody else today to make our lynch options easier. arent we past the 12hr now?
True.
Damn.
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On July 14 2013 23:31 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me? At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info. Yes, it is possible. However, in that case, you need to account for the lack of silent nuke today.
In the world where I am scum and stutters is town, you need to believe his claim, think I'm a scum war protestor, AND think that the silent nuke is being held...solely to get a lynch on stutters?
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On July 14 2013 23:34 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:31 Onegu wrote:On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me? At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info. Yes, it is possible. However, in that case, you need to account for the lack of silent nuke today. In the world where I am scum and stutters is town, you need to believe his claim, think I'm a scum war protestor, AND think that the silent nuke is being held...solely to get a lynch on stutters?
You are trying to read into a closed set up, maybe a total of 2 scum got 1 silent nuke each, or 1 scum got only 2 silent nukes. Or its 3p lauching silent nukes there is no way to know.
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Rereading thread
On July 14 2013 23:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sent if you can you should nuke somebody else today to make our lynch options easier.
Even without the deadline, I only had one nuke. I'm effectively a VT for the rest of the game.
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On July 14 2013 23:37 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 23:34 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2013 23:31 Onegu wrote:On July 14 2013 23:26 austinmcc wrote:On July 14 2013 23:20 Onegu wrote:
Takeing stutters out because I dont think he should be lynched yet. Was talking about you saying CA and gumshoe. Read my post. I'm not suggesting we lynch them. Explain this bit about keeping stutters alive and killing me/z-boson/snb. I can understand that mindset earlier, but we have not seen a silent nuke today and I've claimed to have raided stutters, he's claimed to have been raided. You want to wait on stutters to see if ace's nuke goes off. But you're okay lynching me? At this point yes, first there is no way to confirm your claim. Second it is possible he is town and you are scum and can shut down factories, so seeing if the nuke lands gives us more info. Yes, it is possible. However, in that case, you need to account for the lack of silent nuke today. In the world where I am scum and stutters is town, you need to believe his claim, think I'm a scum war protestor, AND think that the silent nuke is being held...solely to get a lynch on stutters? You are trying to read into a closed set up, maybe a total of 2 scum got 1 silent nuke each, or 1 scum got only 2 silent nukes. Or its 3p lauching silent nukes there is no way to know. The first is possible, although it feels unlikely given their targets and not launching both D1 (specifically, why does scum nuke Ace on D2 with their last silent nuke?).
The second is possible, although the same question applies. Why Ace with your second, and final, nuke?
If it's 3P launching silent nukes, then ... that doesn't get around the issue. Why no nuke today? If a 3P is launching silent nukes, and stutters was the only person raided last night (again, anyone who raided someone last night, please say so because it affects this), then that indicates that stutters is 3P who has been launching nukes at townies. Makes him a worse lynch today, because he's effectively neutered, but then I don't think we can explain him having silent nukes AND giving a nuke, real or fake, to ace.
Yes, I'm trying to make sense of a closed setup. Yes, there are limits to our ability to do that. But that doesn't mean we can't throw out options that don't make any sense.
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austin. I dont understand why Stutters today. Why not on D4 if the nuke is a real one?
Is it lack of other targets? Because I think that CA, Chezinu, gumshoe is a better target than stutters. Chezinu because I don't get the guy but it seems you guys know wtf he is doing, but to me he is afk.
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