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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On July 14 2013 15:23 Onegu wrote: No it should be austin or z-bosan, the whole point of letting the nuke fall is to see if stutters is lieing. That's right, thank you. @ above I think reasons have been stated earlier that both town is impossible but not sure. Long workday today... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On July 13 2013 06:57 Xatalos wrote: MajuGarzett 1) His first content-post is very... weak and careful, basically focusing to just doing something for the sake of doing something and staying off the radar 2) Same theme continues with his second content-post during D2... weak and careful, nothing decisive or new to the discussion 3) Lots of useless fluff that appears semi-contributive on first look 4) A vague show of "interest" to rayn's claim, then conveniently going away until the matter was more or less already resolved That is basically the case against me and it really has nothing solidly scummy. Just some tendencies that can easily be explained by my inexperience with mafia. Geript shot down a nuke heading towards a player most people believed was scummy and neglected to use his power on much more townie people who were being nuked. Due to this he effectively caused an entire day of discussion to be wasted. It was the best thing that could happen for scum. Yet somehow there are 6 votes against me and only 1 against him. Xata advocated the lynch of austin just as much as mine and since then there has been further evidence against him while the case against me has remained stagnant. Despite this there is only one vote against him. CA has gone the majority of the game doing nothing on the excuse that he is drunk and new to the game. On July 09 2013 20:11 CaucasianAsian wrote: Dinner went quicker than expected Is it possible that there is a required role where you must claim unclaimed nukes? If not, then maybe he just wanted to stir up some action. In either case, I am really interested in why WoS has a town read on Maepak. That type of post is exactly what I'm being suspected for yet no one cares when CA does it. I feel town has been very stubborn in advocating my lynch and has began to tunnel. Look at the evidence and I don't see how it is possible to think the case against me is stronger than any other. Add to this the fact that I might die from the nuke and lynching me becomes completely foolish. Johnny even just finished an analysis proving so which disregards the fact that there is only poor evidence against me. If people truly think I am scum, think of this nuke on me as a bonus. Its a regular day with a regular lynch plus an XX% chance (the accuracy of the nuke) of hitting scum. If you lynch me you completely waste the point of a nuke. It makes far more sense to vote for the actual scummiest person here and see if the nuke hits. If it doesn't hit, lynch me the next day and no lynch discussion has been wasted. Also if you lynch scum and the nuke hits and I'm scum you're definitely reducing their kp instead of killing one person and maybe reducing kp. So, no matter what you think of me, lynching me today is an awful decision. In my opinion right now I think Geript is the scummiest. That nuke shot based on an assumption that was obviously wrong that, if truly innocent, he put absolutely no effort into researching, wasted a days discussion and flew in the face of what others in the thread were trying to accomplish. ##Vote Geript | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 14 2013 17:12 MajuGarzett wrote: Once again I have to reiterate I am definitely not the best choice to lynch. This would be true even if there wasn't a chance I would die from a nuke. That is basically the case against me and it really has nothing solidly scummy. Just some tendencies that can easily be explained by my inexperience with mafia. Geript shot down a nuke heading towards a player most people believed was scummy and neglected to use his power on much more townie people who were being nuked. Due to this he effectively caused an entire day of discussion to be wasted. It was the best thing that could happen for scum. Yet somehow there are 6 votes against me and only 1 against him. Xata advocated the lynch of austin just as much as mine and since then there has been further evidence against him while the case against me has remained stagnant. Despite this there is only one vote against him. CA has gone the majority of the game doing nothing on the excuse that he is drunk and new to the game. That type of post is exactly what I'm being suspected for yet no one cares when CA does it. I feel town has been very stubborn in advocating my lynch and has began to tunnel. Look at the evidence and I don't see how it is possible to think the case against me is stronger than any other. Add to this the fact that I might die from the nuke and lynching me becomes completely foolish. Johnny even just finished an analysis proving so which disregards the fact that there is only poor evidence against me. If people truly think I am scum, think of this nuke on me as a bonus. Its a regular day with a regular lynch plus an XX% chance (the accuracy of the nuke) of hitting scum. If you lynch me you completely waste the point of a nuke. It makes far more sense to vote for the actual scummiest person here and see if the nuke hits. If it doesn't hit, lynch me the next day and no lynch discussion has been wasted. Also if you lynch scum and the nuke hits and I'm scum you're definitely reducing their kp instead of killing one person and maybe reducing kp. So, no matter what you think of me, lynching me today is an awful decision. In my opinion right now I think Geript is the scummiest. That nuke shot based on an assumption that was obviously wrong that, if truly innocent, he put absolutely no effort into researching, wasted a days discussion and flew in the face of what others in the thread were trying to accomplish. ##Vote Geript Wierd vote choice here, geript isnt getting lynched. I dont like what geript did and some of his positions but I dont see scum makeing big waves like that. This just makes me think you dont want to bus you scum buddy austin. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 14 2013 17:01 Alakaslam wrote: Dude. I'm Like always on top here. Y Thats what she said. Sorry couldnt help myself. Alakaslam can you do some scumhunting please? I think you could be the fifth scum I dont like your lie, I dont like your votes, and I dont like your lack of doing anything. It is possible you are 3p survivor. As your actions make you unlikely to be lynched or NK. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
Maju has "magically" forgotten why he was suspected by many in the first place: who, how and why he chose to shoot his nuke. Xat's points on him are just gravy. I think the thing that proves Maju as scum for me is how he's approached why people think he's scum. He's taken Xat's point which are really the bread and butter for why he's a suspect but things that aren't at the core of the issue for why we're lynching him and only addresses though. Additionally, his post makes huge illogical leaps but not in any sort of illogical manner. When town loses their shit, they lose their shit baby and the bathwater. When scum "lose their shit" they have a distinct purpose in losing their shit so they don't lose they keep the bathwater while trying to toss the baby so that they look nuts. This is that exceptionally odd sense of the in between. A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel. About the nuke... I wanted to wait as long as I felt I could to address this but look at how Ace is handling the nuke he shot off. It seems very telling to me that Ace hasn't tried to move the lynch either. I don't think it's anything, but Ace who shot the nuke isn't even treating it as being real. Which I thought funny. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Anyone remember this from the start of D2? On July 13 2013 07:38 Stutters695 wrote: Ace your nuke is fake. Here's my real role PM. I changed it to only sometimes fake to try and get NK'd to stop it but I got a PM saying it got raided and destroyed so no need for that anymore. You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. That was me. I raided VA N1 because he'd come up during the night as scummy and I agreed on that read, but figured he wouldn't be lynched for a bit. N2 I raided stutters, because of that first fake PM he gave. Here's what's important about this. We haven't seen a silent nuke today. If anyone else is also a war protestor and raided someone else, you need to speak up pronto. However, if nobody else raided someone, then we saw a silent nuke D1, silent nuke D2, and now nothing on D3. What changed in that time? I raided stutters and he could no longer make nukes. I don't know whether this ace nuke is real or fake or anything. I don't like that ace misspelled earlier, I didn't even notice it and figured since nothing went off he wasn't lying about the dud. Another missed chance to force someone to type something in thread and make sure they weren't planning something/lying. So, for realsies, if you're also a war protestor and raided someone last night, speak up. SOMEONE in this game is dropping silent nukes D1, D2, but not D3. Unless anyone else has a good reason, it's because I raided stutters's nuke factories last night. + Show Spoiler + Someone is going to say I'm mafia and lying and didn't raid stutters, or I'm the silent nuker and am holding my nuke today in an elaborate ploy to lynch stutters. However, he claimed to be raided. Unless anyone ELSE raided stutters, either I'm not lying about being a war protestor or BOTH of us are lying (I can't raid, he didn't get raided). In that case...stutters is lying and part of the plot, indicating that, even if you think I'm 100% mafia and lying about all this, stutters would be lying too | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Chezinu
United States7447 Posts
On July 14 2013 21:06 geript wrote: A few things to note before I head off for D&D. Maju has "magically" forgotten why he was suspected by many in the first place: who, how and why he chose to shoot his nuke. Xat's points on him are just gravy. I think the thing that proves Maju as scum for me is how he's approached why people think he's scum. He's taken Xat's point which are really the bread and butter for why he's a suspect but things that aren't at the core of the issue for why we're lynching him and only addresses though. Additionally, his post makes huge illogical leaps but not in any sort of illogical manner. When town loses their shit, they lose their shit baby and the bathwater. When scum "lose their shit" they have a distinct purpose in losing their shit so they don't lose they keep the bathwater while trying to toss the baby so that they look nuts. This is that exceptionally odd sense of the in between. A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel. About the nuke... I wanted to wait as long as I felt I could to address this but look at how Ace is handling the nuke he shot off. It seems very telling to me that Ace hasn't tried to move the lynch either. I don't think it's anything, but Ace who shot the nuke isn't even treating it as being real. Which I thought funny. I don't get the whole baby thing... that sounds creepy and crazy.. let me try and understand. Town will lose their shit aka brown, they will lose their baby = something very special, and bathwater which may or my not be brown depending on the time period of the bath taking. Scum tosses baby, once again very creepy. something precious... could it be nukes or votes? Exceptionally odd encryption indeed. What type of poetry is this? Now this, "A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel." makes some sense. Thank you for being the first person to answer my question that I asked twice. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 14 2013 21:54 Chezinu wrote: I don't get the whole baby thing... that sounds creepy and crazy.. let me try and understand. Town will lose their shit aka brown, they will lose their baby = something very special, and bathwater which may or my not be brown depending on the time period of the bath taking. Scum tosses baby, once again very creepy. something precious... could it be nukes or votes? Exceptionally odd encryption indeed. What type of poetry is this? Now this, "A few other points that should be considered with Maju, in both of his last posts he's done nothing. There's even a nuke at his head now (if that can be believed), but there's no attempt to scum hunt. There's no going back to try and figure out what points are important, what's been missed, etc. Just "dont lynch me I'm not scum" drivel." makes some sense. Thank you for being the first person to answer my question that I asked twice. This | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
So 1) Scum is holding to their nuke today and not sending it. 2) It was Stutters who gave his nuke to Ace. and then it could be that Stutters loved to just nuke people on D1 and D2 and both are still town. But then I don't understand how Stutters doesn't believe he is not going to be lynched on D4 if this is a real nuke........ @geript. I do not understand how letting FirmTofu and Xatalos launch your nuke (if you are MG) is scummy. For me Maju is on the same level as CA, Chezina and Gumshoe. AFK. Thus the nuke should be enough, especially because it could be real nuke. There is really something off with you and this nuke from MG. 1) The stupid post about superpowers on scum 2) and thus you shooting the nuke down. 3) You voting for jampi after all 4) And now you are again on MG, WHO YOU DIDN'T LYNCH instead you lynched jampi who's nuke you shout down.... This is an endless circle of stupidity. ----> You wasted a defensive missile so that you can circlejerk around MG for fucking 100 hours now?????? @ johnnywup You post is amazing and I agree. What is your main target for lynch? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 14 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote: If we have a townie shooting silent nukes off, he picked odd targets. MZ was part of discussion D1 early, but is a very unlikely choice for a town nuke at the time he got nuked - chez had just recently nuked xatalos, there were a number of anti-chez posts, but nothing really in the way of anti-MZ posts. (Side note: The timing on the silent nukes is something I've minorly looked at, but not read too much into. stutters was NOT in thread at the time the MZ nuke notification went off, and hadn't been around for hours). Moreover, he chose not to launch one today in that case, despite there being a number of targets that people think are scummy and a couple lurkers that we don't know what to do with (besides nuke their faces).See. The difference between austinmcc and geript is that austinmcc makes logical conclusion and posts. I can't disagree with anything austin said, however I wouldn't lynch Stutters yet. There have been nukes every day except today, if that is a undercover town guy doing that, it doesn't make sense that some of the clear targets are not getting nuked or at least the inactives on D3. So 1) Scum is holding to their nuke today and not sending it. 2) It was Stutters who gave his nuke to Ace. and then it could be that Stutters loved to just nuke people on D1 and D2 and both are still town. But then I don't understand how Stutters doesn't believe he is not going to be lynched on D4 if this is a real nuke........ Scum holding their nuke doesn't make much sense to me. Essentially, that's scum passing up 1 KP on the target of their choice for the chance to trade a scumbuddy they think we'll lynch today for stutters. But they don't NEED to save the kp to try and push the lynch around, nor does it make sense that they'd pass up nuking a person of their choice for a lynch on stutters. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
The random nukes can also come from an inactive player. CA or Gumshoe. (this is insane speculation that maybe should be done after Stutters nuke falls on MG?) | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 14 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote: @ johnnywup You post is amazing and I agree. What is your main target for lynch? What is your opinion about lynching CA, Chezina or gumshoe? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 14 2013 22:45 Koshi wrote: Ace's nuke does make things weird. Assuming stutters is mafia, it makes it more likely that ace is also mafia, and that they're working something here but the raid may have thrown a kink in the works (stutters doesn't actually give out nukes, ace got a nuke from someone else/himself while stutters is the silent nuker?). But still, isn't it so that if the nuke now is fake that Stutters is not the guy doing this? We shouldn't lynch Stutters this day, because if it is fake he is still in the clear. The random nukes can also come from an inactive player. CA or Gumshoe. (this is insane speculation that maybe should be done after Stutters nuke falls on MG?) I don't think the silent nukes can come from a super inactive player. In the case of gumshoe, he was gone all D2. Unless he's mindfucking us incredibly hard by being absent all D2 AND not voting, risking modkill in order to launch his silent nuke while never being near thread, he's almost certainly not the silent nuker. CA possible, but CA popped in during D3, yet we've seen no silent nuke. So that possibility falls under the "why wouldn't a silent nuke have been sent if stutters is NOT the silent nuker?" umbrella. There is no simple/easy/sensible answer to that question for me. I'm still near-convinced that stutters is lying about his role PM. I cannot explain the lack of silent nuke today beyond stutters being the silent nuker. | ||
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