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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 14 2013 05:05 GMT
#2921
To be honest my role was ambiguous, it says nothing about what radiation does.
Try TL Mafia!!!
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 05:06 GMT
#2922
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 05:08 GMT
#2923
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 05:09 GMT
#2924
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 05:12 GMT
#2925
On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy

But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 14 2013 05:14 GMT
#2926
Wait on reading the immune one role pm again i'm a lot less convinced that the toy store role pm is faked because the IO role pm doesn't specify how to do an action in pm (ie: ##nuke etc"), and is also somewhat ambiguous. I still do have a couple issues with the TS PM: for one thing, it doesn't make sense thematically. Nukes aren't toys. Why is a toy store in a game about nukes? A toy store is a location, not a person like everyone else. It also doesn't specify which nuke types there are to choose from, which is also pretty weird but I'm less convinced about this because I'd guess you could just make up types or something.

Also, is "once per cycle" every day or every night or what?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 05:15 GMT
#2927
On July 14 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy

But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%.


The first thing I thought of when I saw his few different roleclaims was that he was trying to make a play like rayn did, thats always a possibility. He could have been trying to fuck with Ace but now Ace is fucking with him.
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 05:20 GMT
#2928
On July 14 2013 14:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:51 Ace wrote:
Stutters could be Town but only if the nuke is fake. If it really does kill Maju, then Stutters lied about his role. Lets just wait and see.


His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy

But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%.


The first thing I thought of when I saw his few different roleclaims was that he was trying to make a play like rayn did, thats always a possibility. He could have been trying to fuck with Ace but now Ace is fucking with him.

So you think it's possible that after being caught with the real roleclaim he THEN lied and is not a Toy Store.

Alright I suppose I follow but that is some convoluted shit right there. There is certainly some 'really fucking unlikely' going on there, and I don't think it's on the same level as Roulette at all.
What do you think the correct play is, Vayne?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 05:35 GMT
#2929
On July 14 2013 14:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
[quote]

His role PM doesn't say anything about the nukes being duds or anything, just that you give fake shit to people that doesn't work. We already know he lied about his PM unless the role PM is very ambiguous, but with how specific others have been I HIGHLY doubt that

dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy

But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%.


The first thing I thought of when I saw his few different roleclaims was that he was trying to make a play like rayn did, thats always a possibility. He could have been trying to fuck with Ace but now Ace is fucking with him.

So you think it's possible that after being caught with the real roleclaim he THEN lied and is not a Toy Store.

Alright I suppose I follow but that is some convoluted shit right there. There is certainly some 'really fucking unlikely' going on there, and I don't think it's on the same level as Roulette at all.
What do you think the correct play is, Vayne?


The correct play is to consult the hosts but since its a strictly closed setup the second best action is probably to leave it untouched right now and see what Maju flips or if he even flips at all. It should be something we talk about tomorrow not today
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 05:39 GMT
#2930
On July 14 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy

But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%.


The first thing I thought of when I saw his few different roleclaims was that he was trying to make a play like rayn did, thats always a possibility. He could have been trying to fuck with Ace but now Ace is fucking with him.

So you think it's possible that after being caught with the real roleclaim he THEN lied and is not a Toy Store.

Alright I suppose I follow but that is some convoluted shit right there. There is certainly some 'really fucking unlikely' going on there, and I don't think it's on the same level as Roulette at all.
What do you think the correct play is, Vayne?


The correct play is to consult the hosts but since its a strictly closed setup the second best action is probably to leave it untouched right now and see what Maju flips or if he even flips at all. It should be something we talk about tomorrow not today

So you think we should be lynching outside of this situation then?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 14 2013 05:41 GMT
#2931
On July 14 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On July 14 2013 14:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 14 2013 14:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
dud = shit that doesn't work


no.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

compare that to Toy Store, they are clearly different. One says that you can make a nuke that launches but might be a dud, while toy store only says it gave them a nuke in notifications but doesn't actually launch.

What are you trying to hide?

Where does it say it doesn't actually launch?
It says it doesn't work. That's pretty ambiguous but I take it to mean the same thing as being a dud.


Ok I will try to explain it

You are a Toy Store! You don't actually make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them look real. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind.

The role ends at target player being told they received a nuke. thats it. You do not actually make real nukes.

You are a Cheap Chinese.Nuke Manufacturer! You don't always make real nukes but you're pretty good at making them. Once per cycle, you may choose a nuke type and a player. That player will be told he received a nuke of that kind. The nuke won't always work but it will appear real regardless.

Compare that to this. Choose nuke and player. Player will be told he received a nuke. NUKE WONT ALWAYS WORK BUT WILL APPEAR REAL.

see? that is the difference. One claim ends at the role PM, the other goes on to say that the nuke will actually appear as real in the thread.

Alright assuming you're right about this (I don't 100% buy it, but whatever)
You then assume Stutters to be scum, correct?


I would be 100% sure if Ace didn't fuck us in roulette -_- just the fact that I know he's capable of doing that makes it iffy

But if what you're saying is true then Stutters has lied about his claim. There is no town motivation I can think of for that which makes Stutters scum 100%.


The first thing I thought of when I saw his few different roleclaims was that he was trying to make a play like rayn did, thats always a possibility. He could have been trying to fuck with Ace but now Ace is fucking with him.

So you think it's possible that after being caught with the real roleclaim he THEN lied and is not a Toy Store.

Alright I suppose I follow but that is some convoluted shit right there. There is certainly some 'really fucking unlikely' going on there, and I don't think it's on the same level as Roulette at all.
What do you think the correct play is, Vayne?


The correct play is to consult the hosts but since its a strictly closed setup the second best action is probably to leave it untouched right now and see what Maju flips or if he even flips at all. It should be something we talk about tomorrow not today


So you want to lynch MG and not see if the nuke hits?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 05:43 GMT
#2932
lol wtf
How did you get the exact opposite of what I did out of the same sentence?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 05:50 GMT
#2933
Lynching outside of the situation, not lynching MG. that is my stance
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 05:56 GMT
#2934
Alright I'm going to bed.
I have to really think about this. Hopefully I'll have some time tomorrow.
Onegu, are you scum?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 14 2013 05:57 GMT
#2935
Because I didnt read the part where he says if he flips at all...

No I am town IO
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 14 2013 06:04 GMT
#2936
Ok NOW I'm going to bed.
On July 13 2013 08:39 Onegu wrote:
Umm it is possible I killed firm tofu I visited him last night...

I hate your filter. Looks horrible, but the above post is what forces me to believe that you're town.
Nothing more to say.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 14 2013 06:19 GMT
#2937
Vayne has moved to my town list.

Point on Chinese factory taken!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 14 2013 06:19 GMT
#2938
On July 14 2013 14:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
Lynching outside of the situation, not lynching MG. that is my stance

Say Stutters?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 14 2013 06:23 GMT
#2939
On July 14 2013 15:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 14:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
Lynching outside of the situation, not lynching MG. that is my stance

Say Stutters?


No it should be austin or z-bosan, the whole point of letting the nuke fall is to see if stutters is lieing.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 14 2013 06:31 GMT
#2940
This brings a dilemma however. If we don't lynch MG, then it's possible that scum still has 2 KP tonight, if the nuke is indeed a dud. If we mislynch it's triply bad. If we just lynch MG, okay, we lose 1 person. Of course we'll be trying to lynch scum but the possibility is troubling if we mess up. If we lynch someone else outside the situation, and it turns out to be a townie, then we lose 1 during day and 2 at night. Of course, if we lynch outside the situation and hits a scum we're in a GREAT position, we're almost done. There are 18 alive right now I believe (correct me if I miscounted) which means 14 town and 4 scum, at BEST (assuming no 3p for sake of argument--including 3p only makes it worse)

So as far as I can see there's the following possibilities:

+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler +

A: We lynch outside the situation, hit townie. Nuke on MG doesn't hit. On day 4, it's 11 townies to 4 scum at BEST.

B: We lynch outside the situation, hit townie. Nuke on MG hits. He's scum. On day 4, it's 12 townies to 3 scum at BEST

C: We lynch outside the situation, hit townie. Nuke on MG hits. He's townie. On day 4, it's 10 townies to 4 scum at BEST

D: We lynch outside the situation, hit scum. Nuke on MG doesn't hit. On day 4, it's 13 townies to 3 scum, at BEST

E: We lynch outside the situation, hit scum. Nuke on MG hits. He's scum. On day 4, it's 13 townies to 2 scum at BEST

F: We lynch outside the situation, hit scum. Nuke on MG hits. He's townie. On day 4, it's 12 townies to 3 scum at BEST

+ Show Spoiler +

G. We lynch MG. He's scum. On day 4, it's 13 townies to 3 scum at BEST

H. We lynch MG. He's townie. On day 4, it's 11 townies to 4 scum at BEST

+ Show Spoiler +

I: We lynch Stutters. He's town. Nuke doesn't land. On day 4, it's 11 townies to 4 scum at BEST

J: We lynch Stutters. He's town. Nuke lands. MG is town. On day 4, it's 10 townies to 4 scum at BEST

K: We lynch Stutters. He's town. Nuke lands. MG is scum. On day 4, it's 12 townies to 3 scum at BEST

L: We lynch Stutters. He's scum. Nuke doesn't land. On day 4, it's 13 townies to 3 scum at BEST

M: We lynch Stutters. He's scum. Nuke lands. MG is scum. On day 4, it's 13 townies to 2 scum at BEST

N: We lynch stutters. He's scum. Nuke lands. MG is town. On day 4, it's 12 townies to 3 scum at BEST



(assuming if we hit scum today we get rid of 1 KP, there is 5 total scum, and the rest are townie, and if we lynch MG we don't know whether or not the nuke would hit)


Averaging the outcomes (if outcomes are equal---which they are obviously not, but just something to consider)
Lynching outside the situation or lynching stutters: 11.833333 townies on day 4 with 3.16666 scum
Lynching MG: 12 townies on day 4, 3.5 scum

Lynching outside the situation therefore has more townies/scum on average, and is probably a better pick than lynching MG. Although I included lynching stutters as an option I don't think it's a good idea at all because it lends itself to REALLY bad situations imo.

However I haven't taken into account that if the nuke doesn't hit then Stutters is probably town and if it does hit he's probably scum. Intuition tells me that lynching outside of the situation lends to better results if you take that into account.

But back to the dilemma. Best possible scenario: Lynch outside of the situation, hit scum, nuke lands, MG flips scum.

Worst possible scenario: Lynch outside of the situation, hit town, nuke lands, MG flips town.

Most likely scenario IMO (sorry town but after 2 mislynches I have less faith): We lynch outside of the situation, hit town, nuke may or may not land. The problem I have is that if the nuke doesn't land we lose 3 townies for nothing in this situation, when we could have lynched a (relatively) confirmed scum. On the other hand, if we do decide to lynch MG, we get no information on Stutters from this at all. So I'm really torn.



What does everyone else think?
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