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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 14 2013 04:34 Chezinu wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=21#402 Now, for this information you cantz nukes me That's just speculation Chezinu the Brown. He himself could have another type of nuke, be as mafia or town. Apart from him "knowing stuff", don't you want to comment on the cases put forth against him? | ||
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Z-BosoN
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
On July 14 2013 04:43 Z-BosoN wrote: Actually, since you decided to listen to the dead, the dead ones both wanted him dead methinks. Is this superfluity the best your order can offer? austin is a good person... and I knows him? Its easier to kill a stranger than someone you know. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On July 14 2013 03:32 Z-BosoN wrote: @Koshi I have a few questions for you. + Show Spoiler + First two regarding this post 1) You had this to say about xatalos: Everybody respects him, so I respect him. Unlike Ace Xatalos is wrong about everything though. Pushed the nuke and pushed the lynch… If FirmTofu is scum, this guy might be scum as well. But it would be soooooo obvious. Even I know that a bit of secrecy is good in this game. You have explained your supposed "association" with me and geript, but from that part of the post it looks like you've had Xatalos and Firm associated as well. Can you explain why it would be soooo obvious if Firm and Xata are scum together? Also, it seems to me that by that post, you don't really like Xatalos play, because he is wrong about everything, and better yet, you don't think he is town. However, when talking about austin, in the same post, you had him as town: When I joined the game this guy was taking the lead while also making sense, he is for me on the same level as Xatalos. Town for me. I find it troubling that you didn't make it clear that Xatalos is town when you were talking about him, but suddenly when you started talking about austin, you let us know that he is a town read to you. What gives? 2) Regarding Onegu, you had this to say: Looks to be playing without secrets, which makes him town for me. Other people also like him a lot. Can you name the people that "like him a lot" and be a bit more specific on that part please? That would be helpful. 3) Please go through SnB's filter and tell me what you think. You have to do better than "he's inactive". Keep in mind that this is my second game, and I am at a point that I don't want to call the tl+ mafia a game but a travesty. So when I made that post I was still in the mindset that being really wrong is scummy. FirmTofu his playstyle was somewhat of an eye opener for me, but at that point I thought that FirmTofu was scum. Xatalos teamed up with FirmTofu and in my mind I just connected the dots. But while I was reading the game I saw that many people thought that Xatalos was town, so I was happy to follow that idea. I also thought that Xatalos nuked and lynched 2 town people but I was mistaken and it was twice jampi. I said that in a following post somewhere. So for me Ace and Xatalos were the "leaders" in this game and I wanted to express that I was willing to follow them both but that Ace was my choice because Xatalos was already been wrong about jampi. Austin just wasn't wrong about things and each post he made sense. Ugh, I was/am really bad at this game and now that I see what I wrote I understand how bad it was. I am also now understanding way better how scum operates. Or probably not but it's on an higher level than when I wrote that post. I just wanted to make a list to look active, or at least to show that I am willing to do something, read the game etc etc. This morning I was also proud at making that post about you and geript. But seems that was bad as well -_-*. Look, I am willing to just follow the most towny guy in a lynch, or follow the majority. That was my gameplan last lynch, I can do that again. Probably, I will do that. I am making posts each day, you guys can evaluate. If I ever make a post and 3-4 people tell me it is a good post and I completely make sense, then I am a happy player. Till then I am just going to make big post till I do it right. I also asked Xatalos last night if it was a good idea to look after clusters of scum players. He replied that it was a good plan, so I executed that this morning. I ll take a good look and snb and post it. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
On July 14 2013 04:48 Chezinu wrote: austin is a good person... and I knows him? Its easier to kill a stranger than someone you know. I knows him too, but tis the sad fate of those who play mafia. If I were you, my soft person, I would listen to the Planar Dragon. He is not as evil as you may think. What of MG? I see indifference to him in your posts, and he's a popular lynch choice for today. Are you against it? | ||
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
On July 14 2013 04:53 Z-BosoN wrote: I knows him too, but tis the sad fate of those who play mafia. If I were you, my soft person, I would listen to the Planar Dragon. He is not as evil as you may think. What of MG? I see indifference to him in your posts, and he's a popular lynch choice for today. Are you against it? No, I just don't know why people are voting for him. I asked earlier and trying finding out why. Didn't have any luck. My skim reading skills needs the help. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
It is a really easy way of playing because if austin does flip town, then snb can just say that Xatalos said it. I don't know, seems like snb doesn't really puts much effort in the game at this stage. But there are others that don't do that as well. I don't know if I would lynch snb before those guys. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jW8VAJI.png) possible error: Vayne may be switched with SnB. Somewhat less likely because SnB is voting austin atm and it seems unlikely that there's been *that* much bussing this game, but hey it seems to have been working so far so who knows? I feel pretty confident in these reads though. Best lynching order: Maju->Austin->Stutters->Vayne/SnB Reasons: I won't lie, heavily influenced by Xatalos' post, but beyond that... Austin's "defense" to xatalos isn't really a defense at all...It's reads like him saying "yup, that's absolutely correct, but I'm still not scum". He didn't really...have a defense? It really really didn't seem like it to me. His "advanced knowledge", as ace pointed out, is still disconcerting to me. Also, everything on Xatalos' post. Day 2 lynch was exactly like Day 1 lynch. Just that makes me feel like MajuGarzett is definitely scum. Since starting to be the popular vote to kill, he has done nothing. It's like he knows hes going to die as scum and doesn't want to give town any more information. He could be pretty busy as a townie...but I think thats very very unlikely at this point. Stutters: He's faking his role PM, pretty obviously to me. The PM he said he received says nothing about which types of nukes there are to fake (only that there are different types of nukes...), there's no indication of how to submit an action or when, etc. Additionally, Toy Store doesn't fit the theme of this game. It feels ridiculously fabricated, or he's leaving something out. Unless he shares his actual role PM and has a damned good reason on why he faked his role pm...twice... I can't see him being a townie. OH I just had a thought. Ace admitted to having a KP but wasn't killed at night, which makes 0 sense unless scum knows that the nuke was faked so it's possible that Stutters is a "Toy Store" or something along those lines, but isn't town aligned and didn't post a bunch of his role PM. VA & SnB: I'm a LOT less confident about these. I believe SnB may be a scum aligned Immune One. Sort of gut read. I don't like how he's been playing and it feels pretty scummy to me but I can't really put my finger on anything. VA: Basically what xata said, not much else to offer, but I don't like how he's pursuing Chezinu so much right now, and just assuming he's scum. I don't see how he could even have a gut read on chezinu, I can't read him at all...he's chezinu. This is also a gut read...not very confident. I think ONE of these is probably scum, but not both. | ||
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Stutters695
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Stutters695
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 13 2013 22:58 Z-BosoN wrote: This is the third time you mention you'd love to lynch me. While I'm flattered, what is stopping you from making a case on me? Also, why do you want to lynch me even if I'm null? Who are your top scumreads? So in thismgame you have had scum reads on Ace,, Austin, Alakaslam, WoS, Johnnywup, Rayne, Vayne, Koshi, and S&B, and maybe chezinu as you have a post about if anyone disagrees with him being scum. But your votes have been on CA for lurking, and Jamp for cookies So out of 25 people you have had scum reads on 10 of them and voted for 2 more, you are waffleing so much and barely contributing, you have had one good post on reads and the others are just basicly saying you feel someone is scum. VOTE  -BOSAN | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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geript
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 14 2013 12:10 geript wrote: Random CA ninja unvote w/o comment... What are you refering to here? | ||
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geript
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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