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Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
June 28 2013 16:27 GMT
#1261
On June 29 2013 01:26 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Stop avoiding me and answer my question about why you changed your mind about me.

I'm not avoiding you. Answering you is useless because I have changed my mind once again an I think you are scum. I don't new to tell you why I thought you were town at one point because I no longer think that is the case.

I might tell someone who I think is town, but I'm certainly not was in my time answering your questions when we need to be focusing on this lynch.


Glad you confirmed you lied again to try and get my vote on onegu as you came up with no explanation.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 16:28 GMT
#1262
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 16:28 GMT
#1263
On June 29 2013 01:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:23 hzflank wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:17 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:15 hzflank wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 28 2013 22:06 hzflank wrote:
On June 28 2013 21:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Just caught up on 10 pages of thread.

On June 28 2013 20:25 hzflank wrote:
So they happen to watch Hurricane, who happens to have a power role, who happens to use it on the same person that you pick to watch.

Specifically, we need to look at why the scum chose to track Hurricane. This is important.

Btw, it was no accident that our cop died on night 1. Look at Chromatically's filter, he was telegraphing cop. Unfortunately the town did not pick up on this a provide any cover (by acting like a cop). The scum picked up on it though and therefore they are obviously trying to work out who has roles.


Thats a hell of a lot of coincidences. Also by reading thread has hurricane actually confirmed he visited alakaslam or are we just assuming it?



Hurricane may be a strong hint but it can't be a confirmation because it is false!
I did not like the way that he confirmed it, as you will read. However, Hurricane was my strongest town read and he was extremely tired at the time.

you lie. Vote this guy in the Lylo!


Where was the lie?

Hurricane never confirmed this, never CONFIRMED- he simply told town do not jump to conclusions. Scum would push for my lynch so would misconstrue what Hurricane said because he is leading us right now. He has the most credence.


On June 28 2013 18:38 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Could be, but is it likely? What's to stop the mafia from deducing that I was Watcher Onegu's target, and sending their Tracker into the thread to claim?




Ebwop bbcode strikes again

confirmed it.
HI SCUM. This is NOT a CONFIRMATION at all! This may be a strong hint but it can't be confirmation because that is false!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:28 GMT
#1264
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Read the Op the NN knows where he goes... He just cant control it.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 16:30 GMT
#1265
On June 29 2013 01:27 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:26 FirmTofu wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:16 FirmTofu wrote:
Last night, the mafia tracker Onegu visited Hurricane.
Onegu learned that Hurricane visited Alakaslam.

This scenario is compatible with Alakaslam's claim that he tracked Onegu who visited Hurricane.

Today, Onegu was being pressured hard and wanted to get the pressure off of himself. He decided that the best way would be to claim watcher and say he watched Alakaslam and have his "strongest town read" confirm him.

The problem was that Hurricane is the Nosy Neighbor and didn't actually know where he went. That's why Hurricane came into the thread accusing Onegu, not Alakaslam.

This establishes that 1) Onegu did not make a bad move as scum. Risky? Sure. Bad? No.
2) Hurricane is innocent.

For all those who vote Alakaslam, you must ask yourselves who the other two mafias are. StiM and LoneMeow is a cop out answer.

Look at how fast the Alakaslam wagon is rising. I guaruntee that all or most of scum are already on it.


Stop avoiding me and answer my question about why you changed your mind about me.

I'm not avoiding you. Answering you is useless because I have changed my mind once again an I think you are scum. I don't new to tell you why I thought you were town at one point because I no longer think that is the case.

I might tell someone who I think is town, but I'm certainly not was in my time answering your questions when we need to be focusing on this lynch.


Glad you confirmed you lied again to try and get my vote on onegu as you came up with no explanation.

You gonna look bad after flip
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 16:35:01
June 28 2013 16:32 GMT
#1266
Some power rangers related picture thing votecount (without the picture)

Onegu (3): Hurricane Sponge, FirmTofu, Alakaslam, Hurricane Sponge, hzflank
StiMaDDict (0): Aquanim, hzflank,
FirmTofu (0): Onegu
Alakaslam (4): LoneMeow, Aquanim, Onegu, hzflank,Spicydinosaur
Not Voting:
StiMaDDict
LoneMeow

Alakaslam is set to be relegated to guest roles on other TV shows for all eternity!
If there are any mistakes, blame Geript. (But also let us know!)

Day 2 ends in [unparsable timestamp format]
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 16:32 GMT
#1267
Dang it now too many mafia esque types for a Lylo town win except by huge stroke of luck.
Meow and stim I'm not the only one giving this game away if you're town.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1268
On June 29 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Some power rangers related picture thing votecount (without the picture)

Onegu (4): Hurricane Sponge, FirmTofu, Alakaslam, Hurricane Sponge, hzflank
StiMaDDict (0): Aquanim, hzflank,
FirmTofu (0): Onegu
Alakaslam (4): LoneMeow, Aquanim, Onegu, hzflank,Spicydinosaur
Not Voting:
StiMaDDict
LoneMeow

Onegu is set to be relegated to guest roles on other TV shows for all eternity!
If there are any mistakes, blame Geript. (But also let us know!)

Day 2 ends in [unparsable timestamp format]

Wait what? WoS look at that again
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1269
On June 29 2013 01:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:26 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:23 hzflank wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:17 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:15 hzflank wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 28 2013 22:06 hzflank wrote:
On June 28 2013 21:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Just caught up on 10 pages of thread.

On June 28 2013 20:25 hzflank wrote:
So they happen to watch Hurricane, who happens to have a power role, who happens to use it on the same person that you pick to watch.

Specifically, we need to look at why the scum chose to track Hurricane. This is important.

Btw, it was no accident that our cop died on night 1. Look at Chromatically's filter, he was telegraphing cop. Unfortunately the town did not pick up on this a provide any cover (by acting like a cop). The scum picked up on it though and therefore they are obviously trying to work out who has roles.


Thats a hell of a lot of coincidences. Also by reading thread has hurricane actually confirmed he visited alakaslam or are we just assuming it?



Hurricane may be a strong hint but it can't be a confirmation because it is false!
I did not like the way that he confirmed it, as you will read. However, Hurricane was my strongest town read and he was extremely tired at the time.

you lie. Vote this guy in the Lylo!


Where was the lie?

Hurricane never confirmed this, never CONFIRMED- he simply told town do not jump to conclusions. Scum would push for my lynch so would misconstrue what Hurricane said because he is leading us right now. He has the most credence.


On June 28 2013 18:38 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Could be, but is it likely? What's to stop the mafia from deducing that I was Watcher Onegu's target, and sending their Tracker into the thread to claim?




Ebwop bbcode strikes again

confirmed it.
HI SCUM. This is NOT a CONFIRMATION at all! This may be a strong hint but it can't be confirmation because that is false!


Hz thought he confirmed it I thought he confimed it and spicy thought he confirmed it, he used some really round about ways talking about it.
Try TL Mafia!!!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1270
On June 29 2013 01:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Who do you think Alakaslam's teammates are if he is scum?
Who do you think Onegu's teammates are if he is scum?

Look at the bandwagons because scum will likely pick the same wagon.

This question is directed to all town, but I would like hzflank to answer specifically.


I will do Onegu first as it is much easier.

If Onegu is scum then: Aquanim is 99% scum. If Onegu flips red then it will take a small miracle to make me move my day 4 vote off of Aqua. Spicy and Lonemeow would be the other possibilities. I am not sure about StimAddict as there is little to go off of, but if Aqua also flips red then Stim is 100% confirmed Town.

If Alakaslam is scum then it is more difficult:

I don't want to answer this right now. I need to get a coffee and mull over it.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1271
We need hurricane to get on and confirm my theory. Hzflank, I would advise you to unvote at look at where the votes stand. Which wagon has people on it that you would consider to be on your scum list?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1272
On June 29 2013 01:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?

I have to confirm but as far as I know he does NOT know who he visits at night. 'Aware of this behaviour' means simply that he knows he is a nosy neighbour.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 16:33 GMT
#1273
I will be lynched. Oh and how did I know? GG, I have bamcis goodbye post comin
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 28 2013 16:35 GMT
#1274
On June 29 2013 01:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Some power rangers related picture thing votecount (without the picture)

Onegu (4): Hurricane Sponge, FirmTofu, Alakaslam, Hurricane Sponge, hzflank
StiMaDDict (0): Aquanim, hzflank,
FirmTofu (0): Onegu
Alakaslam (4): LoneMeow, Aquanim, Onegu, hzflank,Spicydinosaur
Not Voting:
StiMaDDict
LoneMeow

Onegu is set to be relegated to guest roles on other TV shows for all eternity!
If there are any mistakes, blame Geript. (But also let us know!)

Day 2 ends in [unparsable timestamp format]

Wait what? WoS look at that again

Derp.
Fixed it. You gonna die!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 16:36 GMT
#1275
On June 29 2013 01:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?

I have to confirm but as far as I know he does NOT know who he visits at night. 'Aware of this behaviour' means simply that he knows he is a nosy neighbour.

Just as I suspected. Your thoughts, hzflank?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 16:39 GMT
#1276
On June 29 2013 01:33 Alakaslam wrote:
I will be lynched. Oh and how did I know? GG, I have bamcis goodbye post comin

If Hurricane votes Onegu again or if hzflank switches his vote back to Onegu, you won't be lynched. Calm down and try to make a case for yourself. Panicking isn't going to help you.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 16:44 GMT
#1277
On June 29 2013 01:39 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:33 Alakaslam wrote:
I will be lynched. Oh and how did I know? GG, I have bamcis goodbye post comin

If Hurricane votes Onegu again or if hzflank switches his vote back to Onegu, you won't be lynched. Calm down and try to make a case for yourself. Panicking isn't going to help you.

Actually Hurricane is already on it, so we are gonna need to convince hzflank, StiM, or LoneMeow

Unfortunately, between StiM and LoneMeow, there is probably 1 scum and I don't know which so we should work on convincing hzflank who I am almost certain is town.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:46 GMT
#1278
On June 29 2013 01:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?

I have to confirm but as far as I know he does NOT know who he visits at night. 'Aware of this behaviour' means simply that he knows he is a nosy neighbour.

Just as I suspected. Your thoughts, hzflank?


This doesnt change much, if he is NN it still means he was the only one who could have visited him. But we need to hear fromHurricane first.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 28 2013 16:48 GMT
#1279
Ebwop

Except when I claimed Hurricane defended me and took his vote off of me, it wasnt until the scum team tried thier move that he got confused and he was tired. So wait for him to get back and respond.
Try TL Mafia!!!
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 16:51 GMT
#1280
On June 29 2013 01:46 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:36 FirmTofu wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Does the nosy neighbor know who he visits at night?

I have to confirm but as far as I know he does NOT know who he visits at night. 'Aware of this behaviour' means simply that he knows he is a nosy neighbour.

Just as I suspected. Your thoughts, hzflank?


This doesnt change much, if he is NN it still means he was the only one who could have visited him. But we need to hear fromHurricane first.

It explains Hurricane's behavior and why he couldn't trust you. It establishes Hurricane as town and not the mafia framer, which hzflank was worried about.

If Hurricane isn't mafia, then there are very few people left that could possibly be on a potential Alakaslam's scum team.

1) Obviously, someone on Alakaslam's scum team wouldn't be voting for Alakaslam at this point, so we can eliminate anyone doing that.

Remaining Options:
FirmTofu
StiMaDDict
LoneMeow

I know I am town and I think hzflank agrees, so hzflank would have to say that both StiM and LoneMeow are scum in this scenario. This doesn't seem very likely from my point of view.

I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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