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On June 26 2013 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:My feeling is Shiao as well. Yes he had that burst of "gahh I'm lost" posting, but he seems more interested in that than actaully finding mafia. There are two things that are wierding me out about his filter right now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453¤tpage=78#1542This post, in which he expresses doubts about GoodKarma yet wants to trade with him anyway. Trading is something you do when you're 100% convinced the other person is scum, and not as a "eh I'm not sure" move. ...And this... Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 11:23 ShiaoPi wrote:
not really reading thoriughly but hapa do you remember lvii?
dp did the same thing"i quit mafia forever"
currently i dont buy gk martying like this. Shiao's a smart guy, so him not seeing eye-to-eye with us on the GK issue is a bit alarming. I'd expect this from Oats, but not from Shiao. I also really don't understand why his switch flipped all of a sudden when GK made his JK claim: Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:58 ShiaoPi wrote:
what the fuck jk claim and you go fuck off again? I mean like there is nothing you are giving us. No reasons motivations or thouhts on wht jailing yamato. fuck my earlier doubts on gk. This is scumgk all over
##Vote:Goodkarma
Will probably be around for a while as I battle insomnia but I really hope I am asleep soon, got to wake up early tmr... If anything, that claim should make you doubt his allignment, and not immediately remove all doubts about his allignment.
That sums it up pretty well for recent activity.
There's also the theme in his filter about calling "lurkers" back to the game. He calls out GK, me, and sloosh the most from a quick skim looking for those. Has he been calling people scummy for lurking, though? Not quite. Technically he can't. He spent a major portion of D1 MIA. This could also explain why there was no major swing from Shiao to push things towards GK.
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EBWOP: Major swing from Shiao to push things toward GK (as in away from DP closer to deadline).
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##vote ShiaoPi
Coag, lend me your vote. I know you be readin'.
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slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to?
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On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to?
My vote isn't going to change.
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On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change.
Why isn't it changing again?
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On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again?
Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative.
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On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative.
Normal martyr posts... no.
A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes.
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On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes.
Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative.
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On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative.
Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm.
Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player.
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On June 26 2013 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative. Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm. Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player.
These aren't really good reasons to call him town based off of one post. He's played a scummy game and now he's town to you because he writes one emotional post saying he's going to quit.
My votes are staying right where they are.
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On June 26 2013 06:12 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative. Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm. Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player. These aren't really good reasons to call him town based off of one post. He's played a scummy game and now he's town to you because he writes one emotional post saying he's going to quit. My votes are staying right where they are.
I changed my read because it's an absurdly townie post, along with several other vets in this game.
Just understand that you're a double-voter and you'll have a lot of sway over who flips in the next few days. If we lynch GK and he flips JK, no more hipster voting... mmkay?
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On June 26 2013 06:15 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:12 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative. Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm. Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player. These aren't really good reasons to call him town based off of one post. He's played a scummy game and now he's town to you because he writes one emotional post saying he's going to quit. My votes are staying right where they are. I changed my read because it's an absurdly townie post, along with several other vets in this game. Just understand that you're a double-voter and you'll have a lot of sway over who flips in the next few days. If we lynch GK and he flips JK, no more hipster voting... mmkay?
Yeah. Alright.
By the way, no one has claimed their RB on me. It's just way too convenient for him to claim and then say he JK'd Yamato.
Yamato was probably #3 or #4 choice of RB for an actual RB. There were a lot better choices.
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On June 26 2013 06:18 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:15 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:12 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
slOosh, Cora, Coag, Shaio
Where'd you guys run off to? My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative. Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm. Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player. These aren't really good reasons to call him town based off of one post. He's played a scummy game and now he's town to you because he writes one emotional post saying he's going to quit. My votes are staying right where they are. I changed my read because it's an absurdly townie post, along with several other vets in this game. Just understand that you're a double-voter and you'll have a lot of sway over who flips in the next few days. If we lynch GK and he flips JK, no more hipster voting... mmkay? Yeah. Alright. By the way, no one has claimed their RB on me. It's just way too convenient for him to claim and then say he JK'd Yamato. Yamato was probably #3 or #4 choice of RB for an actual RB. There were a lot better choices.
Well it's not like the actual scum RB is going to walk in here and claim that they roleblocked you.
The thing is, yes GK made a suboptimal decision regarding the JK. However, you can't discount the fact that people are capable of making suboptimal decisions. If we lynched people for doing stupid things all the time, town would never win any mafia games. Hell it's not like saving Yamato was completely out of the ballpark of a save since Yamato was very obv-town and is known for being a fairly capable scum-hunter.
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Vote Count
Oatsmaster (2): cDgCorazon, Adam4167, Coagulation
goodkarma (4): cDgCorazon, Hapahauli, ????, ShiaoPi, slOosh, goodkarma
ShiaoPi (2): goodkarma, Coagulation, Hapahauli, Hapahauli, ObviousOne
Adam4167 (0): Oatsmaster
goodkarma is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) in .
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On June 26 2013 06:22 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:18 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:12 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:00 cDgCorazon wrote:
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My vote isn't going to change. Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative. Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm. Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player. These aren't really good reasons to call him town based off of one post. He's played a scummy game and now he's town to you because he writes one emotional post saying he's going to quit. My votes are staying right where they are. I changed my read because it's an absurdly townie post, along with several other vets in this game. Just understand that you're a double-voter and you'll have a lot of sway over who flips in the next few days. If we lynch GK and he flips JK, no more hipster voting... mmkay? Yeah. Alright. By the way, no one has claimed their RB on me. It's just way too convenient for him to claim and then say he JK'd Yamato. Yamato was probably #3 or #4 choice of RB for an actual RB. There were a lot better choices. Well it's not like the actual scum RB is going to walk in here and claim that they roleblocked you. The thing is, yes GK made a suboptimal decision regarding the JK. However, you can't discount the fact that people are capable of making suboptimal decisions. If we lynched people for doing stupid things all the time, town would never win any mafia games. Hell it's not like saving Yamato was completely out of the ballpark of a save since Yamato was very obv-town and is known for being a fairly capable scum-hunter.
It doesn't make up for the scummy game he has played. He spent the last half of N1 trying to get me lynched, and then didn't follow through on it once D2 started. He also jumped on the "no rb notifications" really quickly after I announced my RB. I really don't think anyone would've paid attention to that unless they were an RB role themselves. Once it was clear that Acro had made a mistake, he just dropped his scum read on me 100%. It's just him continuing to follow thread sentiment.
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On June 26 2013 06:28 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:22 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:18 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:15 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:12 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:07 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 26 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 26 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:
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Why isn't it changing again? Because I don't believe GK. A martyr post isn't alignment indicative. Normal martyr posts... no. A martyr post saying you're quitting TL Mafia... yes. Why would he do that? He literally just played a game as scum where he dominated and had a flawless victory. I don't think we've hammered or flamed him to a point where he wants to quit. He's just being dramatic and emotional. That's not alignment indicative. Well more because he's been mislynched in his past few town-games. Plus in his scum-games, he's never dramatic or emotional. He's always really, really level headed and calm. Also GK is much more known as a town player than a scum player. These aren't really good reasons to call him town based off of one post. He's played a scummy game and now he's town to you because he writes one emotional post saying he's going to quit. My votes are staying right where they are. I changed my read because it's an absurdly townie post, along with several other vets in this game. Just understand that you're a double-voter and you'll have a lot of sway over who flips in the next few days. If we lynch GK and he flips JK, no more hipster voting... mmkay? Yeah. Alright. By the way, no one has claimed their RB on me. It's just way too convenient for him to claim and then say he JK'd Yamato. Yamato was probably #3 or #4 choice of RB for an actual RB. There were a lot better choices. Well it's not like the actual scum RB is going to walk in here and claim that they roleblocked you. The thing is, yes GK made a suboptimal decision regarding the JK. However, you can't discount the fact that people are capable of making suboptimal decisions. If we lynched people for doing stupid things all the time, town would never win any mafia games. Hell it's not like saving Yamato was completely out of the ballpark of a save since Yamato was very obv-town and is known for being a fairly capable scum-hunter. It doesn't make up for the scummy game he has played. He spent the last half of N1 trying to get me lynched, and then didn't follow through on it once D2 started. He also jumped on the "no rb notifications" really quickly after I announced my RB. I really don't think anyone would've paid attention to that unless they were an RB role themselves. Once it was clear that Acro had made a mistake, he just dropped his scum read on me 100%. It's just him continuing to follow thread sentiment.
You do realize that the JK role is essentially an RB rile, right?
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Also keep in mind that you're voting the guy that's self-voting himself.
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On June 26 2013 06:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Also keep in mind that you're voting the guy that's self-voting himself.
That's still not alignment indicative. Scum would just go all-in and hope they wouldn't get voted out.
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On June 26 2013 06:31 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 06:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Also keep in mind that you're voting the guy that's self-voting himself. That's still not alignment indicative. Scum would just go all-in and hope they wouldn't get voted out.
When was the last time you saw a scum martyr, self-vote, and peace out of the thread for good?
Self-vote being the key, as it's the lack of a survival instinct here that makes GK's post very compelling form a townie perspective.
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