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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
##VOTE OATS OR GTFO | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I GOTTA KNOW. ITS KILLING ME. | ||
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Coagulation
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On June 25 2013 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote: i like how you think ill die if you flip town. I'm guessing you're talking about this Coag? I'm thinking 'bout this one too. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Oatsmaster
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Hapahauli
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On June 25 2013 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote: hapa why do you ask us both about shiao and do nothing after? I need to spend less time posting and more time reading. I'm not in a position to be lynched right now. So I want to hear people with suspicion on them generate content. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
He goes from: On June 25 2013 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont think gk's post is alignment indicative, hapa immediately unvoting is REALLY FUCKING ODD. Martyring isnt alignment indicative, and if gk stays alive to lylo, is he benefit to town? no because even as town he gave up. SO KILL HIM. I don't think its alignment indicative. Add in casting suspicion onto Hapa for a legitimate unvote and also apparently knowing that GK gave up 'as town'. To: On June 25 2013 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Hapa, I just saw what I feel is a scumclaim. A SCUMCLAIM. A SCUMCLAIM. In 10 minutes. His justification is: On June 25 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote: I changed my mind hapa, I currently think that town would not have martyred in the best way to not get himself lynched. Like all the other people selfvoting havent been so thought through. I don't think a townie would ragequit in a way that makes himself look this townie, therefore its a scumclaim. Read that again if you have to. I do not buy this explanation one bit. Look at his attitude towards me. He has been hammering me since I got in here, and utterly refuses to listen to anything I put forward about why I am not scum, nor does he listen to why other people think I might be town. I gave a legitimate response for why I was not playing up to my Duel mafia standards, for which he had no rebuttal. He then uses the same argument again as a reason I am scum when discussing with OO. This kind of blatant disregard for anything coming out of your targets mouth is scummy. You know they're making a point that you cant argue, but you keep harping on it anyway. The one time he shows some form of insecurity in his read towards me? The post he votes me in. That is scummy. If you're sure I'm scum, as he damn well appears to be, drop your vote, call me scum and start convincing everyone else of your viewpoint. Instead, its this: On June 25 2013 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote adam Because the last time as you have quoted I tunneled people, against many people, they flipped town. Is it like that again? "Last time I tunneled someone to death against what everyone was saying they flipped town. Is that happening again?" This attitude does not gel with voting someone. He's apparently reconsidering yet voting to kill me in the same post. Inconsistent. Scummy. I already went over this before but ill go over it again. I called him out for not having a vote for me. He felt insecure and the need to correct that perceived wrong so he slapped his vote down as soon as he could. One minute later, he's saying "Votes dont matter man", so why did he vote in the first place if they don't matter! He realized he made a mistake and tried to downplay it. If he felt votes didn't matter, he would have responded to my first post with "it doesn't matter now, ill vote you later in the day after the discussion is over", but that isn't what happened. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 25 2013 10:50 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont like people martyring and long structured posts feel scummier than townier because so much effort for killing yourself. I feel its a ploy. so why dont you have innate suspicion hapa? Im sure that adam is scum now, trying his very hardest to lynch me. So im scum because, 1. I 180ed my read on GK and provide reasoning that its probably gonna lead to him staying alive. Which is true. And which I then say town wont do that. 2. Adam has never tried to figure out my alignment, no questions no nothing, NO SCUMHUNTING. Just waiting for the time where I do enough scummy stuff for him to be confident in his case and it wont lead to massive backlash. 3. "Last time I tunneled someone to death against what everyone was saying they flipped town. Is that happening again?" Its true. So I dont see how that makes me scum in anyway. 4. Votes dont matter and apparently you guys dont have a sense of humor. Or any brain. Tell me why as scum I would vote for you after you called me out for not voting? It makes no sense to purposely draw attention to yourself. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17915 Posts
Vote Count Oatsmaster (2): goodkarma (4): cDgCorazon, ShiaoPi (0): Adam4167 (0): goodkarma is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) in . | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I've heard very little from you since the GK clusterfuck. | ||
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Hapahauli
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His play is so absurdly attention-whorey and spazzy, which lines up with his town games very well. All his posts reek of paranoia, and him being "unreasonable" is completely par with his town games. @ Coag I don't know what scum-slip you found, but it would have to be really, absurdly compelling to go agains the behavior tells in Oats' filter. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
if you guys want to lynch town feel free I will have no part in it. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On June 26 2013 04:09 Coagulation wrote: my votes on oats and thats where its stayin. if you guys want to lynch town feel free I will have no part in it. Can you explain the scumslip to me? I haven't found anything compelling. | ||
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Hapahauli
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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On June 22 2013 00:32 ShiaoPi wrote: I think mainly based on gut feeling and comparison with the last game as scum we had together. Cant remember the last time goodkarma rolled town with me playing as well. Also you just objectively judged that the case is terribad, so why do you need so much meta? Meta is much more of a helpful factor in my opinion not necessarily the argument to get somebody lynched. So I see gk doing that case on oats which is scummy as shit and then compare it to his play in I swear, I think its similar so it reinforces my scumread on him... To be honest I don't even know what your problem is "I thought about GK's meta so I used his meta to describe his meta but meta isn't the only thing I believe is a good idea to use" lol | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On June 24 2013 15:18 ShiaoPi wrote: EBWOP: I mean its like 2 votes on me already IIRC. Sure we are still early into the day but I am saying that we should lynch into adam or gk preferrably gk, but if that is not gonna happen because you think me scummier, fine lynch me but get gk next after you see my town flip. Hapa tell me what you make of this. This is closer to that scum flavor of martyring that Oats has been belligerent about. Oats, you got thoughts about this? You threw yourself into the argument regarding GK but you let this one slip by? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Yes he had that burst of "gahh I'm lost" posting, but he seems more interested in that than actaully finding mafia. There are two things that are wierding me out about his filter right now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=417453¤tpage=78#1542 This post, in which he expresses doubts about GoodKarma yet wants to trade with him anyway. Trading is something you do when you're 100% convinced the other person is scum, and not as a "eh I'm not sure" move. ...And this... On June 25 2013 11:23 ShiaoPi wrote: not really reading thoriughly but hapa do you remember lvii? dp did the same thing"i quit mafia forever" currently i dont buy gk martying like this. Shiao's a smart guy, so him not seeing eye-to-eye with us on the GK issue is a bit alarming. I'd expect this from Oats, but not from Shiao. I also really don't understand why his switch flipped all of a sudden when GK made his JK claim: On June 25 2013 03:58 ShiaoPi wrote: what the fuck jk claim and you go fuck off again? I mean like there is nothing you are giving us. No reasons motivations or thouhts on wht jailing yamato. fuck my earlier doubts on gk. This is scumgk all over ##Vote:Goodkarma Will probably be around for a while as I battle insomnia but I really hope I am asleep soon, got to wake up early tmr... If anything, that claim should make you doubt his allignment, and not immediately remove all doubts about his allignment. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Last scum... I don't think it's Oats. It's definitely not GK. It might be Adam, but his posting just sounds so terrible in his scum-games, and he seems interested in figuring out the game right now. Even if he's barking up the wrong tree with Oats, his suspicions are basically what happens when someone plays with Oats the first time. I think it's Shiao. His recent push on GK (in spite of the towniest martyr ever) is troublesome. Also his transition from "fuck me I'm lost I guess I'll vote GK cause he's my only possible lead" to -----> OMG GK claimed JK he scumscum doesn't strike me as organic. | ||
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