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slOosh
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Hapahauli
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On June 25 2013 06:55 ShiaoPi wrote: am i like hugely misreadint the op?? I mean why say yiu cannot block KP if it is just like usual? ugh, I hate my lack of sleep. does not do good things for my logic. now fine strike that ponlint off but gks claim is still too convenient and his play matches i swear I think the OP means that you can't roleblock mafia KP. Not that you can't prevent KP in the first place. Though doesn't hurt to ask. | ||
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Hapahauli
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ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
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Is it possible to defesively Jailkeep as per hapas definition earlier? | ||
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ShiaoPi
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I need to take a break from the thread... will be back late evening and checking in on phone during the day | ||
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Acrofales
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slOosh
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I'm always iffy around lynching emotional players (since that stuff is harder to read for me, ask VE anytime). I guess the biggest thing for me is that GK's role stuff. I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation that people with power roles to read them, read the OP again maybe and double check that stuff on their own. The fact that he says On June 25 2013 00:20 goodkarma wrote: Some food for thought too: I'm the jailkeeper. I jailed Yamato last night. May not be the optimal time, but whatevs you guys figure out what the fuck it means that Yamato died the way he did even with my action on him. I'm out for now. cya. means he isn't doing basic reading anymore. Earlier on in the day he was posting (before the I want to quit) stuff, and yet he spent no time whatsoever trying to figure out why his role didn't work. ... yea maybe we are thinking about this too hard. ##Vote: goodkarma | ||
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Hapahauli
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On June 25 2013 07:32 slOosh wrote: ... I guess the biggest thing for me is that GK's role stuff. I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation that people with power roles to read them, read the OP again maybe and double check that stuff on their own. Worth saying that this also makes sense for the scum RB. | ||
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slOosh
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Hapahauli
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goodkarma
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##Unvote ##Vote: GK Kinda a pain, as that means between Hapa, Oats, Adam, Shao, you need to determine one you absolutely believe to be townie in determining the last scum. Sadly, I would say Adam is someone I like more than the other three right now. Best of luck. Don't really care to "solve the game," like I usually try to do. If town really truly fails three times after mislynching me, then it deserves to lose. Especially considering the calibur of player that will be remaining in game even at LYLO (if it comes to that) isn't terribly bad in any way (surprisingly)... Picked Yamato because he thinks similarly to me as town, and I saw that type of mentality here. Voting on the DP wagon also put him on the list of "very likely town," so made him the best candidate in my mind. Obvious I also considered, given the mislynch push on him by flipped scum put him at near confirmed town. Ange actually didn't come to mind at the time. She had "internet troubles" for a good deal of the day, and my biggest concern as JK was to find a likely town I felt would 1) likely be able to carrry town to victory, and 2) would be a likely candidate to get shot by scum. Yamato fit best in my mind. And any arguements like "Ange was obvious JK choice," are making pants-on-head retarded arguements. It's super-easy to say shit like that in retrospect post-flip. Be sure to not have some built-in bias and reassess the game anew after my flip. Like that really is a big piece of this is build in bias. Sure I haven't done oodles of stuff in finding scum, but quite frankly, several people are just as guilty of me in this category. So what it comes down to is you don't like my writing style, or don't like that I'm not perma-inthread, or don't like I don't ask a shitload of pointless questions, or so on... What questions I've asked I've clarified, and what cases I've made I've clarified. I really don't care to retread anything I've done to date. Those leading this wagon (Shao and Hapa), to the extent of my knowledge, have both EXCLUSIVELY played with me when I've been scum, so I imagine they have bias there as well. They keep trying to match up what I've done as scum, and have not tried worth fucking shit to see if I would be capable of doing that as town. In other words, they're making piss-poor meta arguements. Sure you could say this guy has "objectively scummy" play or whatever, but honestly, some of the case points I've seen recently are absolute crap. Like "your posts are long": THAT's HOW I FUCKING WRITE. "Your roleclaim is convenient": This is a point made with the complete bias of looking in retrospect at how people flipped. "Maybe you should change your day one playstyle": I could go into great depth as to how that wouldn't change anything (I've tried numerous different things actually), and how this is more about how I write and process information than anything. The TL;DR of it: Fuck off Hapa. Anyway, that's more or less my farewell post. I'd highly recommend you orient discussion to who you're going to lynch after I flip. And though I know it's impossible for some of you, hopefully you can look at the game fresh. Also consider "confirmed townies" and leave no stone unturned. There is almost zero percent chance that Coag is scum. Dayvig and regular vig scumroles would be just flat-out ridiculous. Obvious and sloosh, though I feel are very highly unlikely to be scum, might as well be considered as well just to be complete and thorough. That's how I'd go about it if I actually cared. And please do mislynch me. I'm sick of the stupid shit I've had to try do defend myself against this game (and pretty much every other game I've ever played). Consider this my last game. | ||
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Hapahauli
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slOosh
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slOosh
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On June 24 2013 18:56 Adam4167 wrote: Going by vote analysis alone, it would make sense that GK is also scum, as Rayn let his vote waste on OO rather than swing it over to GK after I threw mine on to get that wagon over the line and save DP. Granted, its entirely possible Rayn was AFK for the lynch. Like this. This makes no sense to me. | ||
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Hapahauli
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slOosh
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Corazon
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Hapahauli
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Shiao sounded very genuine last night. The whole "OMG GK CLAIMED SCUM" thing in the last few hours was weird though. As for Oats, he's playing this paranoid, spazzy townie that seems hard to fake as scum. He's probably my strongest town read of the 3. | ||
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