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On June 24 2013 07:24 cDgCorazon wrote:
I grouped them all in the same category (as lurkers) because I'm still not sure about them. Sure, some of them voted for DP and were on his wagon, but they've all played really shoddy games and I'm not going to write them off as town just because they voted on the right wagon. As I've said before, that should not give anyone an excuse to not continue to look town and make an effort in the game.
Let's talk about sloOsh and OO then.
What about their play is "shoddy" so far?
Why are their voting actions not sufficient to exonerate them? (And in OO's case, DP trying to get him killed)?
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@Hapa:
On June 24 2013 05:32 ShiaoPi wrote:
EBWOP:
FUCK totally missed my post that turned me to awesome reaver!! aww yeah
Doing this, while providing nothing of any substantial value, I consider trolling. Maybe I should be more lenient of this shit as it's night-time and we can't lynch right now, but considering that he's literally had no input of any kind for so long and pops in only to make a post like this this I find unsettling (and two before along the lines of no questions for me? kthxbye...).
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They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly.
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On June 24 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly.
Wouldn't you agree that OO is practically certain to be town, given he was DP's mislynch of choice yesterday?
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On June 24 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly. Wouldn't you agree that OO is practically certain to be town, given he was DP's mislynch of choice yesterday?
It certainly helps his case, but you should never rule anything out. He's not someone I want to lynch tomorrow, if that helps.
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Obviously on the rationale "you should never rule anything out", anyone could be mafia. For me OO is about as confirmed as it gets without a flip.
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On June 24 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly.
With OO, there's still the big factor that DP tried to lead a wagon on him. Actually, both DP and Oats voted him at some point, which makes your suspicions of him somewhat strange.
As for sloOsh, how has he not been contributing? He's been doing quite well since the lynch.
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On June 24 2013 07:48 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly. With OO, there's still the big factor that DP tried to lead a wagon on him. Actually, both DP and Oats voted him at some point, which makes your suspicions of him somewhat strange. As for sloOsh, how has he not been contributing? He's been doing quite well since the lynch.
OO is far down my list of people I want to lynch but I'm not going to write him off as confirmed town. How many ways do i have to phrase that?
Overall, sloOsh's contributions have been mediocre. His filter is about 2 and a half pages, with 50% of that coming after the lynch. He's done well N1, but his D1 posting left a lot to be desired.
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On June 24 2013 07:52 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 07:48 Hapahauli wrote:On June 24 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly. With OO, there's still the big factor that DP tried to lead a wagon on him. Actually, both DP and Oats voted him at some point, which makes your suspicions of him somewhat strange. As for sloOsh, how has he not been contributing? He's been doing quite well since the lynch. OO is far down my list of people I want to lynch but I'm not going to write him off as confirmed town. How many ways do i have to phrase that? Overall, sloOsh's contributions have been mediocre. His filter is about 2 and a half pages, with 50% of that coming after the lynch. He's done well N1, but his D1 posting left a lot to be desired.
So is there anyone confirmed town in your mind? Actually, can I get a list of who you consider to be town/scum/null?
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Rayn, the reason you cant tell who I suspect to be scum is because I don't know that myself. Ill walk you through my current thought process.
As per this post:
On June 23 2013 14:15 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 14:05 Hapahauli wrote:On June 23 2013 14:01 Adam4167 wrote:
No. There's being unintentionally bad, where I will try to figure you out (go see duel mafia and my read on sylencia), and then being intentionally bad, such as Kush in smurf. You don't want to put the effort into playing properly, then i don't want you around with the idea lingering in the back of my head that you could be scum playing us for fools. We're not lynching Oats unless we think he's scum. Period. Do you think Oats is scum? Also presumably you caught-up with the thread now that you're posting - who are your other scum-reads? I am reasonably caught up. Right now I want to see more out of GoodKarma, ShioaPi and Raynpelikoneet. Oats would be on this list as well if he weren't playing like a dick. I consider everyone on the DP wagon to be out of the question for tomorrow. Those of us that were on GK yesterday, I actually have some of my better townreads on: Cora, Marv and yourself (in that order).
I don't consider anyone on the DP wagon to be a viable lynch for tomorrow, so I strike them off my list.
I then take out the people I feel are town who were on the GK wagon - Cora, Hapa, Marv.
This leaves me with 4 names: Yourself, ShiaoPi, GK and Oats.
I liked your hustle on D1, so I feel most confident that you're town out of this bunch, so you come off. Oats is being a right shit, but most people seem to think hes town for it, so I move him to the maybe category. This leaves me with either GK or ShiaoPi. I doubt they're both scum together due to their actions on D1, so unless we're dealing with a 3 man scum team of DP, Oats and one of these two, I've already messed up somewhere in my logic. This leads me to conclude that either my town reads on the GK wagon are wrong, or that the scum are on the DP wagon and bussed him yesterday.
I sincerely do not think the scum team bussed yesterday, for that they threw away an exceptional scum player with probably the best role to suit his play style. So I take a look at the 3 people I called town on the GK wagon with me... and all I see is town.
I cant manufacture scum reads that I don't have. So this is where i'm at. I hope to have a better understanding of what actually happened D1 after the KP starts flying around the place. Where to tomorrow? Resolving the GK and ShiaoPi situation looks as good a place to start. I don't get a strong scum read off either of them by examining either of their filters. I don't find the cases that either of them put forward yesterday to be all that compelling either. Hence my comment on seeing what they did and how they did it.
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On June 24 2013 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 07:52 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 24 2013 07:48 Hapahauli wrote:On June 24 2013 07:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
They haven't had a thread presence. They haven't been trying to push their reads and they haven't been contributing to the discussion.
The only big action they've done is voting for DP, and they did it mostly out of the blue. They didn't decide to commit to anything before the vote and for the most part, they haven't done much after the lynch either. I don't know where they stand and I still can't get a good read on them, which worries me greatly. With OO, there's still the big factor that DP tried to lead a wagon on him. Actually, both DP and Oats voted him at some point, which makes your suspicions of him somewhat strange. As for sloOsh, how has he not been contributing? He's been doing quite well since the lynch. OO is far down my list of people I want to lynch but I'm not going to write him off as confirmed town. How many ways do i have to phrase that? Overall, sloOsh's contributions have been mediocre. His filter is about 2 and a half pages, with 50% of that coming after the lynch. He's done well N1, but his D1 posting left a lot to be desired. So is there anyone confirmed town in your mind? Actually, can I get a list of who you consider to be town/scum/null?
Sounds good. Most of these I've explained at one point of another, so if you want more information on a read, just ask.
These are going to go in order from most town to most scum.
Hapa
Yamato
Marv
Rayn
Adam
OO
sloOsh
Ange
Shiao/Coag
GK
Oats
Shiao and Coag are together because I really can't rank one more town/scum than the other.
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As lists go that one's pretty bizarre
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Day 2
There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions.
As yamato, ange and rayn were puzzling over the implications of this rule, their heads exploded.
yamato77, CID Investigator, Ange777, Major Sanderson and Raynpelikoneet, Milo Minderbinder are dead.
Marvellosity, CID Investigator fulfilled his lifelong goal, retired his job and is sipping margueritas in the Bahamas.
+ Show Spoiler [role pms] +'A lot of good that does me,' the C.I.D. man sniveled. 'I don't want your sympathy. I just want you to know what I'm going through. I came down to warn you that Washington Irving seems to have shifted his base of operations from the hospital to your squadron. You haven't heard anyone around here talking about Washington Irving, have you?'
'As a matter of fact, I have,' Major Major answered.
'That man who was just in here. He was talking about Washington Irving.'
'Was he really?' the first C.I.D. man cried with delight. 'This might be just what we needed to crack the case wide open! You keep him under surveillance twenty-four hours a day while I rush back to the hospital and write my superiors for further instructions.' The C.I.D. man jumped out of Major Major's office through the window and was gone. You are the C.I.D. Investigator. After arriving at this base to investigate the Washington Irving incident, it has come to your attention that another man is posing as a CID Investigator! Your mission is to find this man and kill him before he can do the same to you. Each cycle you may communicate anonymously with another player (the same player can be picked more than once and you may choose whether or not to reveal your identity) in a QT. The target to communicate with for the next cycle must be submitted by the end of each night (except for the first cycle in which the person to talk to can be chosen at any time). Alignment checks on you will work as if you were a member of the town and you are not considered anti-town. In addition, you have the following one-shot powers (only 1 use per game) to use at night, two of which may be used in a single night: 1) Hide behind another player (you will be immune to shots aimed at yourself but any shots aimed at the other player will also hit you). 2) Check their military records to determine if they are a fake C.I.D. Investigator. 3) Drug their food with a poison that only kills fake C.I.D. Investigators and that bypasses any form of protection.
"But I make a profit of three and a quarter cents an egg by selling them for four and a quarter cents an egg to the people in Malta I buy them from for seven cents an egg. Of course, I don't make the profit. The syndicate makes the profit. And everybody has a share." Milo was not only the Vice-Shah or Oran, as it turned out, but also the Caliph of Baghdad, the Imam of Damascus, and the Sheik of Araby. Milo was the corn god, the rain god and the rice god in backward regions where such crude gods were still worshipped by ignorant and superstitious people, and deep inside the jungles of Africa, he intimated with becoming modesty, large graven images of his mustached face could be found overlooking primitive stone altars red with human blood. Everywhere they touched he was acclaimed with honor, and it was one triumphal ovation after another for him in city after city. You are Milo Minderbinder, the squadron mess officer and CEO of M&M Enterprises! Once per game during the day, you may pay off the Germans to launch a bombing attack on another player by typing ##Bomb: Player in the thread. This attack will kill them and must be launched at least 12 hours before the end of the day. It will resolve at the end of the day.
'Does it?' cried Major Sanderson with delight, as though unable to believe his ears. 'Now we're really getting somewhere! Do you ever have any good sex dreams?'
'My fish dream is a sex dream.'
'No, I mean real sex dreams - the kind where you grab some naked bitch by the neck and pinch her and punch her in the face until she's all bloody and then throw yourself down to ravish her and burst into tears because you love her and hate her so much you don't know what else to do. That's the kind of sex dreams I like to talk about. Don't you ever have sex dreams like that?'
Yossarian reflected a moment with a wise look. 'That's a fish dream,' he decided. You are Major Sanderson, the camp psychologist! Each night, you may talk to another person and attempt to determine their alignment as either Town or Anti-Town. Since you're a little out of practice, your diagnoses may be unreliable (you may be either Sane, Insane, Paranoid, or Naive). You win with the town.
Sane: Your checks will be correct. Insane: Your checks will return the opposite of what they should. Paranoid: All checks will return Anti-Town. Naive: All checks will return Town.
It is now Day 2. The deadline is at [unparsable timestamp format] in [unparsable timestamp format]. Don't forget to ##vote!
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On June 24 2013 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
As lists go that one's pretty bizarre
Well it's my reads so that's what you get.
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rofl #yolo swag
gg.
For what it's worth, I really was playing for town. glhf
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hahaha that was werid as fuck
GG all of y'alls
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Anyways,
##Vote: Oats
I am will to answer any questions today, but if I've already asked them, I will direct you to my filter in a probably-not-so-nice way.
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Also, I was roleblocked last night.
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Interesting.
And apparently I was wasting my breath with Rayn.
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EPT
