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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
June 23 2013 23:37 GMT
#1481
lol the last scum should give up. this scum team is pathetic and getting smashed by me and im not even trying lolol
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:40 GMT
#1482
On June 24 2013 08:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
I think another great filter to look at is Ange's.
I'm assuming the scum NK'd her, but why? Perhaps she was on the right track?

I will look at her filter right after my shower.


Ange was the most obvious townie in the game as well as an analyst. Also, her main suspicion was on marv, so scum shooting her (assuming they did) due to her suspicions don't make much sense.
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 23 2013 23:41 GMT
#1483
On June 24 2013 08:32 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm inclined to think that Rayn's super-defense of Oats last night makes Oats town. Rayn just seems waaaay too sure about it, and hard defending a scum-buddy like that is very psychologically difficult.

That's really all I drew of relevancy from Rayn's filter on one quick readthrough. He does talk about reads on Shiao, GK, and others, but never really does anything committal that would say anything about their allignments.

I'd like to hear other's thoughts on it.

Don't you mean my hard defense of Oatsmaster?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:42 GMT
#1484
On June 24 2013 08:41 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:32 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm inclined to think that Rayn's super-defense of Oats last night makes Oats town. Rayn just seems waaaay too sure about it, and hard defending a scum-buddy like that is very psychologically difficult.

That's really all I drew of relevancy from Rayn's filter on one quick readthrough. He does talk about reads on Shiao, GK, and others, but never really does anything committal that would say anything about their allignments.

I'd like to hear other's thoughts on it.

Don't you mean my hard defense of Oatsmaster?


No? Unless you're the last scum giving up ofc.
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 23 2013 23:44 GMT
#1485
I wrote a few posts about it, before you came back I think, detailing why I thought that Oats was town. Do you disagree with me on that? If I remember correctly you were drawing some kind of association with Yamato? I need to read it again.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 23 2013 23:46 GMT
#1486
Hrm. Either I'm misremembering something or it never happened.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:47 GMT
#1487
On June 24 2013 08:44 ObviousOne wrote:
I wrote a few posts about it, before you came back I think, detailing why I thought that Oats was town. Do you disagree with me on that? If I remember correctly you were drawing some kind of association with Yamato? I need to read it again.


Not anymore I don't.

I'm referring to looking through Rayns filter now that he flipped red. When I interacted with him (p57-60) at the time that I posted my case on Oats, Rayn was flipping out and screaming that Oats was town in the thread.

I find it extremely unlikely that Oats is scum on this basis, given that scum rarely (if ever) hard-defend their buddies THAT intensely when suspicion is brought on them.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
June 23 2013 23:51 GMT
#1488
yep oats is town. this isnt new.

lets talk about coraz.

Poll: Coraz - Bad or Scum?

Bad (8)
 
89%

Scum (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Coraz - Bad or Scum?

(Vote): Bad
(Vote): Scum


Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:51 GMT
#1489
I'll also state that I think Cora is really, really townie.

There are certain people that are off-limits for scum to attack (obvious townies, etc), because scum fundamentally want to blend in.

So when Cora is going off and being suspicious of players like OO, sloOsh, and Ange, that's 100% paranoid townie. Suspicions like that attract attention like crazy, and scum really just want to play along.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:54 GMT
#1490
Right now I think I'm between lynching GK and Shiao.

Adam's play has seemed fairly genuine to me. It's a bit of a gut-read, but one I'm comfortable with for now.
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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 23:54 GMT
#1491
Yeah hes town.

I feel like we resolve this GK/SP situation and the endgame credits roll.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:54 GMT
#1492
And who the hell is voting in that poll without posting their rationale?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 23 2013 23:56 GMT
#1493
I'm pretty sure Hapa is referring to this:

On June 23 2013 13:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FUCK I HAVE SAID OATS IS TOWN, I HAVE GIVEN REASONS FOR IT ALSO!

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:56 GMT
#1494
^bingo
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 23 2013 23:56 GMT
#1495
Found the post where you talked about it that I was thinking about. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18977684 and the next post

I'll check out Oats' filter after this episode of Fringe.

Just based on what you've highlighted in that post and from what we can guess regarding the red flip, which explains the implied suspicion of Oats from DP's direction. While it's easy to attribute Oats -> DP suspicion as cursory or distancing, from memory it was more like Oats was obsessed with his own scum read in Yamato. Plus you're talking about a technique that I don't necessarily give Oats the credit for being able to pull off gracefully (which could mean he did it poorly as mafia or it's just how things look to the observer which I believe to be the case). I see it more as just happenstance, not as a planned thing.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 23 2013 23:57 GMT
#1496
I'm down for GK lynch just as much as Oats lynch. Let's get the train rolling?

##unvote:
##Vote: Goodkarma
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:57 GMT
#1497
Yeah dude, I agree with you.

Oats is town. You don't have to preach to the choir.
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 23 2013 23:58 GMT
#1498
On June 24 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah dude, I agree with you.

Oats is town. You don't have to preach to the choir.

AMEN BROTHER
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 23 2013 23:59 GMT
#1499
As for who to vote, I'm not placing anything until I hear what they have to say.

Despite the fact that we're ahead, lynching the last scum can be extremely difficult (harder to draw connections, especially when two scumbuddies die early). Best to take this one calm and slow.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 23 2013 23:59 GMT
#1500
On June 24 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote:
Yeah dude, I agree with you.

Oats is town. You don't have to preach to the choir.


Then get your vote on ^^
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