On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
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He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.

So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.

This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum?

It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative.

So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice.

Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar.

I have weak town reads on most of the other players in the game, for varying reasons. At the very least, I can ignore them until later in the game when their alignment should be clearer.

Why DP isn't one of those town reads is cause for concern, yes. He's been perfectly readable in the past.

You have town-reads on SloOsh, Sylencia, and ObviousOne already? This needs some 'splainin.

Sloosh and Sylencia are people to ignore until later in the game. Sloosh is obvious as town and absolutely lurk-fucking-tastic as mafia. No need to concern myself when time will tell with him. Sylencia might be a coinflip either way, to be honest, so I ignore him until he flips or something.

Ok, that's fair.

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Offering a town-read and calling him a good policy-lynch isn't exactly a "ballsy" opening.

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I really don't understand why you equate null with "worry-some"

Why would scum OO call Oats town at that moment? Unless he's just posting to post, I don't see it. that may be the case, but I feel that it's more likely that he's town from that post than scum.

Null reads are not town reads, which means that they COULD be scum reads, I just don't know yet. So until they give me a reason not to, I concern myself with reading their posts and trying to figure out their motivations.

DarthPunk

Australia10857 Posts

June 21 2013 05:54 GMT

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On June 21 2013 14:51 yamato77 wrote:

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Well, I've never played with you, so how am I supposed to know where to put you?

In with Sylencia you go, then.

So why, then, did you expect him to look town already, and thus justify your 'suspicion of him'

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

June 21 2013 05:55 GMT

#224

On June 21 2013 14:53 Coagulation wrote:
oats I think your scum for soft defending marv for no reason. Why stick your neck out like that even if it was just fucking around and shit. what gives?

BECAUSE HE HAS NOT MADE 1 POST. 1 FUCKING POST

goodkarma

United States1067 Posts

June 21 2013 05:55 GMT

#225

I'd say that right now I'm most suspicious of Oats.

He's called multiple people scum already, including: Cora, Hapa, DP, and has sheeped onto Yamato. But what I've failed to see from him is conviction in his reads. This is something I've seen from Oatsmaster in the past, even this early into the game, and I'm not seeing it here.

Oats, care to explain your current thoughts on DP and Hapa?

Coagulation

United States9633 Posts

June 21 2013 05:56 GMT

#226

Thats right marv I caught you and am going to lynch your scummy ass based on something SOMEONE ELSE SAID before you even posted in the game

GG NORE NECK SNAPPED EZ.

yamato77

11589 Posts

June 21 2013 05:57 GMT

#227

On June 21 2013 14:54 DarthPunk wrote:

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So why, then, did you expect him to look town already, and thus justify your 'suspicion of him'

I generally assume people I don't know have the ability to look town on their own. My mistake, obviously.

Corazon

United States3230 Posts

June 21 2013 05:57 GMT

#228

Coag until Marv gets here would you like to contribute something to the town?

DarthPunk

Australia10857 Posts

June 21 2013 05:57 GMT

#229

we are not lynching marv day one unless he doesn't post much or something. There is no value in even talking about it IMO.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

June 21 2013 05:58 GMT

#230

On June 21 2013 14:52 Coagulation wrote:
Yamato can go on sideboard for now. I want to see you guys do the marv thing over because it was dropped entirely too fucking fast and conveniently.

How is dropping a joke tunnel on a TL vet "fast and convenient"?

We've had our fun with marv, and now it's time to move onto more productive things, such as thoughts on players that have actually... you know... posted?

Regarding Oats

I'm really, really sad that no one has asked me about my unvote of Oats.

DarthPunk

Australia10857 Posts

June 21 2013 05:59 GMT

#231

eh. ##unvote

not sure if yamato is scum or just bad. So gonna go with bad for now.

goodkarma

United States1067 Posts

June 21 2013 05:59 GMT

#232

@Hapa:

Why you unvote Oats?

yamato77

11589 Posts

June 21 2013 05:59 GMT

#233

We're obviously on the same page about Oats. No reason to worry about that.

Coagulation

United States9633 Posts

June 21 2013 06:00 GMT

#234

On June 21 2013 14:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
Coag until Marv gets here would you like to contribute something to the town?

well if my theory holds I already solved the game so you can think me post game.

MARV/OATS scum team owned ez.

yamato77

11589 Posts

June 21 2013 06:01 GMT

#235

On June 21 2013 15:00 Coagulation wrote:

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well if my theory holds I already solved the game so you can think me post game.

MARV/OATS scum team owned ez.

What makes you think there are only 2 scum in a 14 player game?

Corazon

United States3230 Posts

June 21 2013 06:01 GMT

#236

On June 21 2013 15:00 Coagulation wrote:

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well if my theory holds I already solved the game so you can think me post game.

MARV/OATS scum team owned ez.

Yes because in a 14 player game, 2 scum is balanced...

DarthPunk

Australia10857 Posts

June 21 2013 06:01 GMT

#237

On June 21 2013 14:58 Hapahauli wrote:

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Well hapa. The thing is that you are one of those people who just de-tunnel amazingly well and quite often. So when you de-tunnel it's just not that big of a deal compared to when others do it.

But if it's something important i would like to hear it.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

June 21 2013 06:02 GMT

#238

well Hapa says im a policy lynch then like a few minutes later says hes not gonna vote for an obv townie when its clear that Im not gonna get lynched today.
I dont get his attitude this game, its like really angry and stuff and not happy hapa.

DP currently has no scum reads after unvoting yamato. I dont see why he dropped that push. Nothing makes me think that yamato is bad rather than scum.