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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 21 2013 05:35 GMT
#181
So far I feel like the criticism of DP has been a bit over the top. Someone isn't scummy just because you can't read them. That's just really silly logic.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 21 2013 05:36 GMT
#182
On June 21 2013 14:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum?

It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 05:37 GMT
#183
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


Yeah, don't try and explain this away. You made reads and are now backing out of them because you had nothing to back them. Why make them in the first place? Townies don't make reads just for the sake of it. You pulled shit out of your arse for no reason just so you could say something. Seems suspect.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 21 2013 05:37 GMT
#184
On June 21 2013 14:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
So far I feel like the criticism of DP has been a bit over the top. Someone isn't scummy just because you can't read them. That's just really silly logic.

Did I say he was scummy?
Writer@WriterYamato
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 21 2013 05:37 GMT
#185
On June 21 2013 14:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
OO.
I was asking why you thought DP and Hapa was town.

Haven't finished my first post of coffee. How am I supposed to be better at figuring out DP as town or scum when his scum play is being lauded in the thread as TL Mafia's gift to scum teams? Hapa looks like he may be experimenting with something early game or he's just reaction fishing in which case he's gotten a reaction out of you. They're drawing attention to themselves, that's all I need to know right now a few hours into the game.

I'll tell you exactly what I'm thinking about right now because it's win/win to share it, either mafia will continue to do these things or they will post more in the thread by which we can find the inconsistencies.

Mafia has very little reason to actively engage in discussion right now, especially if people are all pointing fingers at each other in the event that everyone posting right now is town. They would probably be content to let town tear itself apart and may not even post. People who are not posting by the end of 24 hours (and I don't mean a handful of one-liners and jokes) climb to the top of my kill-with-fire list. If all of town is talking, this list shortens greatly, and corners the scum into this category. Consider early participation to be town points for day 1. This will also effectively take out the town-aligned anti-town elements in the same vein, if townies aren't sharing their thoughts then they are playing for scum and I'd lynch them just the same to make solving the game easier down the line. (link)Did you read my post in Smurf Mini?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 21 2013 05:37 GMT
#186
weee day 1
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TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 05:38 GMT
#187
On June 21 2013 14:37 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
So far I feel like the criticism of DP has been a bit over the top. Someone isn't scummy just because you can't read them. That's just really silly logic.

Did I say he was scummy?


##vote: Yamato This backflip is so bullshit.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 21 2013 05:38 GMT
#188
On June 21 2013 14:36 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum?

It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative.


So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice.

Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 21 2013 05:38 GMT
#189
On June 21 2013 14:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


Yeah, don't try and explain this away. You made reads and are now backing out of them because you had nothing to back them. Why make them in the first place? Townies don't make reads just for the sake of it. You pulled shit out of your arse for no reason just so you could say something. Seems suspect.

I never said I though you were scum. It's been clear that I'm only looking at you because you aren't acting townish, when you are more than capable of doing so. Now, you could still be town, but nonetheless, you're worth watching.
Writer@WriterYamato
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 21 2013 05:38 GMT
#190
On June 21 2013 14:37 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:35 cDgCorazon wrote:
So far I feel like the criticism of DP has been a bit over the top. Someone isn't scummy just because you can't read them. That's just really silly logic.

Did I say he was scummy?


Well Yamato you are talking like you think he is. Instead of making relevant comments, you're just like "Well, DP is hard to read, so I'm suspicious of him". Makes total sense.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 05:38 GMT
#191
I honestly think that the drawing attention thing is null.

In other news, yamato is looking awfully scummy for not being able to back up his read
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 05:39 GMT
#192
Seriously everyone read this series of posts by yamato.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 21 2013 05:41 GMT
#193
On June 21 2013 14:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:36 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum?

It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative.


So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice.

Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar.

I have weak town reads on most of the other players in the game, for varying reasons. At the very least, I can ignore them until later in the game when their alignment should be clearer.

Why DP isn't one of those town reads is cause for concern, yes. He's been perfectly readable in the past.
Writer@WriterYamato
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 21 2013 05:41 GMT
#194
why is yamato so pro at looking scummy as shit regardless of what alignment he is? anyone tell me? Or am I remembering wrong?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 21 2013 05:42 GMT
#195
On June 21 2013 14:41 ShiaoPi wrote:
why is yamato so pro at looking scummy as shit regardless of what alignment he is? anyone tell me? Or am I remembering wrong?


Yamato is pretty readable. He doesn't get mislynched as town very often, and when he does, it's often pretty terrible. I'll explain if/when I make a scum/town case on him.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
June 21 2013 05:42 GMT
#196
On June 21 2013 14:41 ShiaoPi wrote:
why is yamato so pro at looking scummy as shit regardless of what alignment he is? anyone tell me? Or am I remembering wrong?


You can tell because once he runs out of arguments he just gives up. Just like Red Team's Prize.
Grubby's #1 Fan
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 21 2013 05:43 GMT
#197
EBWOP:
Also this:
On June 21 2013 11:14 slOosh wrote:
What happens if Marv is scum?


So what happens if sloosh just vanishes?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 05:43 GMT
#198
On June 21 2013 14:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:36 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum?

It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative.


So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice.

Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar.

I have weak town reads on most of the other players in the game, for varying reasons. At the very least, I can ignore them until later in the game when their alignment should be clearer.

Why DP isn't one of those town reads is cause for concern, yes. He's been perfectly readable in the past.


Lol you can't fucking read me yamato. Last game we played I was third party you were calling me near confirmed town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 21 2013 05:44 GMT
#199
On June 21 2013 14:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:38 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:36 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum?

It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative.


So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice.

Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar.

I have weak town reads on most of the other players in the game, for varying reasons. At the very least, I can ignore them until later in the game when their alignment should be clearer.

Why DP isn't one of those town reads is cause for concern, yes. He's been perfectly readable in the past.


You have town-reads on SloOsh, Sylencia, and ObviousOne already? This needs some 'splainin.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 05:44 GMT
#200
On June 21 2013 14:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
EBWOP:
Also this:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 11:14 slOosh wrote:
What happens if Marv is scum?


So what happens if sloosh just vanishes?


Then we have every sloosh game ever.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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