I won't have a lot of time for this game, but I have to join purely because of the flavor.
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I won't have a lot of time for this game, but I have to join purely because of the flavor. /in | ||
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On June 21 2013 05:44 s0Lstice wrote: are you guys attempting to match your designed role to your character in any fashion at all? I don't want to be the only one lol Don't worry, I'm doing it too. That's why I joined this game lol. I don't have too much time for this game but the flavor just called to me and made me join. On June 21 2013 06:14 HiroPro wrote: I dunno. I don't ever remember seeing any Doctor Who games before the one that GreyMisT made. The smurfs from GMarshal's smurf game were all the actors who played the Doctor. | ||
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I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though. | ||
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I will be around for questions, but right now, I will be rereading the thread and looking at filters to see who I want to lynch. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:53 Zephirdd wrote: There's no way to get someone to 9 votes now. And Sk8r keeps being useless. Just because we are "tunneling" you doesnt mean you cant look at other players and hunt them. You don't have a limited amount of energy and defending takes little time, UNLESS you are thinking hard every word you are putting out, discussing your posts with teammates etc. Come on, hunt hunt hunt. Xfire, just because you know his role doesnt mean he is town. That's how I won last game, Kurumi made my role and trusted me for that. Also, answer this: does his role RB the attacker, or does it just protect him? Does he have to activate his role or is it automatic? This is important because BC claimed to be roleblocked. Ok. I will keep that in mind Zeph, but knowing what his role is and how he has acted and what he has done makes me think he is town. I will look at him again if I need to later, but not now. As for his actual role I will not say if it needs to be activated or not. I will say that unless changes were made to the role (which is possible and says so in the OP), I don't know how BC was roleblocked. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:58 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 04:53 Crossfire99 wrote: Stop asking how sk8r's role works. I created it and know how it works and know how he survived. The only reason anyone else from this point would need to know how his role works is if they're scum. If you're town, you don't need to know how he survived, all you should care about is that he is alive. Leave it alone. 3 questions: 1. Why should we trust you? 2. Who's your top scum reads? 3. Why? gogogogogogoogogo 1. You shouldn't trust anything I say unless you think I'm town. I've done nothing to prove that on my own. The only way to glean anything about that now is to look at what I say about this whole sk8r issue. 2. I'm not sure right now, I've got to reread the thread. By catch up I meant read everything quickly to see what has happened. Hence I need to do work now. I definitely know who I don't want to lynch now, which is good but that doesn't help us with 1 hr remaining. 3. No idea what you're talking about. | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:25 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 05:24 kitaman27 wrote: On June 24 2013 05:23 kitaman27 wrote: On June 24 2013 05:18 s0Lstice wrote: yea let's do SnB. that's not a bad lynch at all. /vote and unvote You are swapping to s&B because you want to avoid a no-lynch, yet your number one super duper scum read Zeph already has five votes? What happened? Why aren't you pushing his lynch anymore instead of swapping to the "lets lynch s&b because its better than nothing" wagon? Furthermore, your super dupper scum read is vote WITH YOU, to get s&b lynched. You don't find that strange? Holy shit this makes sense Yeah, I'm down for a s0lstice lynch just because of this. ##Vote s0Lstice | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:48 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 05:47 Crossfire99 wrote: We need to lynch someone. We've got 15 minutes left. I'm not voting sk8rguy. SnB is a toss up right now. Solstice should be lynched purely because of his whole vote and unvote a lurker while agreeing with his top scumread. How is that not scummy enough for a lynch!? Tell us about sk8r. How can he confirm anyone? Lol. Stop rolefishing. I've already said all I will about his role. | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:58 Zephirdd wrote: acrofales wrote a role for the doctor and so did Xfire? ????????? No, that's not what I did. Where did you get that idea from? | ||
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June 23 2013 21:15 GMT
#1004
On June 24 2013 05:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: s0lstice the Doctor has been shot! Role PM in a sec. All votes on s0l must be transferred to someone else On June 24 2013 05:51 Zephirdd wrote: ok whoever got masoned must claim asap. Trust me on this one On June 24 2013 05:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Here is s0l's pm: You are The Doctor! Every night you may heal someone. He is protected from 1 KP. You cannot protect the same person two nights in a row and you cannot protect yourself. Haha, fooled you. No. Really, you can do that. But of course, as a Time Lord, you also zip around in your police box causing havoc (or saving the universe, whatever you want to call it) wherever you go! Instead of healing someone at night, you can use one of these abilities: Pick up companion - you pick up a companion. Your companion travels with you in your TARDIS and anything that happens to you also happens to him. You may only have one companion at once. You share a mason chat with your companion. Drop off companion - if there is a companion in your TARDIS, you drop him back on earth. No harm done, old fella, you just weren't quite what I was looking for this trip. Travel in time - any action that would target you or your companion tonight, targets you tomorrow night instead. If your drop off your companion tomorrow, he will still be targeted by anything that targeted you. Travel in space - instantly switch places with someone. Anything that targets you, targets him instead and vice versa (and of course, your companion as well. Finally, at any point in the game, you may regenerate, by typing ## Regenerate and leave all this mess to the next Doctor. In this case, you lose all your powers, including your vote. However, as compensation, you become a one-shot poisoner (once per game, at night, you may poison someone. He will take 1 KP damage the following night). You win with The Alliance Zeph needs to explain ASAP. How did he know the Doctor had a mason buddy? | ||
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June 23 2013 21:23 GMT
#1018
On June 24 2013 06:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: There is no way he picked up a mason, or the Mason would have been shot as well. The role clearly says Show nested quote + Pick up companion - you pick up a companion. Your companion travels with you in your TARDIS and anything that happens to you also happens to him. You may only have one companion at once. You share a mason chat with your companion. Yeah you're right. I didn't think through that completely, I just saw him post asking about masons immediately after solstice got shot, but before his role was revealed and then the Doctor was revealed to be able to mason people, so I got suspicious. I jumped the gun a little. | ||
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June 24 2013 23:05 GMT
#1361
Good job BC. I have to think about the whole austin and meapak thing. It sure seems that austin could be scum because meapak didn't hammer him. Does this mean that Zeph is confirmed town? He was the other main target of meapak besides WoS? | ||
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June 25 2013 02:05 GMT
#1386
+ Show Spoiler + On June 24 2013 03:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok I'm awake. Since it doesn't look like WoS is gonna get lynched so right now I'm gonna reread some filters and decide between zephridd and solstice. On June 24 2013 03:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok that was all it took to read through zephridd's filter and damn he looks really bad. Between useless oneliners and weird posts about Dandel, it looks like he's trying to avoid attention while at the time looking like he's having reads. He's obviously been around the thread and yet he only has two or three posts that actually give reads. Gonna check out solstice now On June 24 2013 04:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: People if you're voting solstice you should really read his and zephridd's filter back to back, it's a stark difference. Solstice is active, he explains his reads, while I think he hasn't followed up everything he's talked about I don't think that's something worth killing him for. Between the two solstice is helping the town a lot more and zephridd has done almost nothing. On June 24 2013 04:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 04:10 Zephirdd wrote: On June 24 2013 04:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: People if you're voting solstice you should really read his and zephridd's filter back to back, it's a stark difference. Solstice is active, he explains his reads, while I think he hasn't followed up everything he's talked about I don't think that's something worth killing him for. Between the two solstice is helping the town a lot more and zephridd has done almost nothing. you've done jack shit. What's your stance on sk8r? I may have less posts than you but in terms of content you're the one who's done jack. I already talked about my position on sk8, I'm with gonzaw and I think he's probably not scum. On June 24 2013 05:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 05:16 Zephirdd wrote: On June 24 2013 05:15 Dandel Ion wrote: So how y'all feeling about switching to snb? Instead of no-lynching, we might as well save us the vig shot. ^that makes sense posting again because of page flipping Of course it makes sense because you're under the gun. Ok so I don't like snb's absence but I'm a lot more certain about zephrid being scrum, his sudden desire to kill snb is pure self preservation. If you're town and you're about to be lynched you don't just go looking around for anyone, you look for scum. As opposed to scum hunting, zephrid is just going for an easy target. On June 24 2013 05:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 05:28 gonzaw wrote: GODDAMIT WHY DID I OVERSLEEP Snb will get replaced, I don't really see him that much as scum (although I could). He has the same amount of votes as solstice so it's not a "he's better than NL" lynching solstice is also better than NL. Gonzaw could you read zephrid again and tell me what you think? On June 24 2013 05:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 05:29 kitaman27 wrote: On June 24 2013 05:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: There is no point in killing snb if he's not gonna even show up. So are you saying that Zeph is the only person you'd consider today? I will not switch off of zeph to kill solstice. I'd kill WoS but he's not getting any traction so I'll deal with him another day. On June 24 2013 06:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok wtf, I leave 10 mins before the lynch and then we all go austin? Why the fuck didn't we kill zephrid? Gonzaw I'm getting suspicious of you, your push for austin seems very half assed an apologetic as if preparing for him flipping town. Not only that, you completly ignored zephrid who you had already called out. I really liked your play until like the last two hours of the day. Bro that looks really bad. On June 24 2013 06:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote: On June 24 2013 06:23 Kurumi wrote: On June 24 2013 06:20 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Also, I know I said I could prove that he is town, it's NOT because he masoned me. Why could you only confirm him and not anyone else? That baffles me. It seems that you knew he was town all along. Why do you keep tunneling sk8 kurumi (specially with stuff like that you just posted)? Meapak why do you "tunneled" zepphird then come back after the "lynch" to complain? I find your explanation for your actions lackluster at best, I know you're better than doing something because its convenient. I wouldn't say I am tunneling zephrid, I think he was much more likely to be scum than solstice (and whoop dee do, solstice was town). WoS remains my primary target and after the way kurumi has acted I'd be down with lynching him as well. As for my "complaining" I'm really just irritated with you. Stupidity from dandel, kurumi, et all is to be expected but I was reallylooking for more from you. Additionally, if the solstice shot was mafia, which I think makes the most sense, they probably thought the lynch would jump to one of the other prime suspects which were sk8r and zeph. They wouldn't do this if either of them were scum. To me this further says that zeph is town (along with sk8r who I've said so repeatedly). | ||
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June 25 2013 02:27 GMT
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On June 25 2013 11:15 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 25 2013 11:05 Crossfire99 wrote: Additionally, if the solstice shot was mafia, which I think makes the most sense, they probably thought the lynch would jump to one of the other prime suspects which were sk8r and zeph. They wouldn't do this if either of them were scum. To me this further says that zeph is town (along with sk8r who I've said so repeatedly). First of all, damn you for ninja Second, that's actually a good point. If we assume the shot came from scum (and not 3rd party), then it was possible for people to wagon on Zepphird after that shot (hmm, maybe scum realized town sentiment was more onto lynching austin....but would they risk scum Zepphird's life for that? Even after MZ conveniently disappears and doesn't try voting austin to save Zepph?). However...I don't really find much reason for a scum to do that shot (solstice was already misslynch and at 8 votes, you just cruise and let the misslynch happen, and you keep the anonymous-asassin-shot for when it matters, like D3-D4, or at least shoot Acro/me and get rid of a strong townie). I think it is very likely it's 3rd party shot. Either something that has to do with the Doctor which made him instantly shoot him to gain something (maybe gain the Tardis? Maybe his win con is "you should personally kill the Doctor"? I dunno), or he just had the chance, felt like trolling and watching chaos evolve, and did it for giggles. Either that or there's a semi-rogue scum doing whatever he likes just randomly using his powers or something. Yeah that's a possibility, but even if it was a 3rd party shot, I still think he's town (not like I have a choice now with your most recent post lol). Also, hilarious thing I just realized, but in the 2 Doctor Who themed mafia games that have occurred, Zeph has been a vigilante and shot townies both times lol. It would be even more hilarious if he was also River Song this game, but the odds of that happening are slim. From now on I think if Zeph gets a vig role, it needs be with a gun that has no bullets lol. | ||
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June 25 2013 17:37 GMT
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June 25 2013 17:48 GMT
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On June 26 2013 02:40 kitaman27 wrote: It has a night action associated with it's passing. Sk8r can confirm. So you can't pass it until night? I'm confused what you're trying to say here. | ||
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June 25 2013 21:29 GMT
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June 25 2013 21:35 GMT
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June 25 2013 21:56 GMT
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June 25 2013 22:24 GMT
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On June 26 2013 07:13 gonzaw wrote: Kita dies as soon as you post a read of all players in the game go gogogogo Yeah I can't really wait, I'll shoot the gun shoot and guys that did action in D1/N1 will die. Mostly because I want a scum dead before the lynch so we can lynch another scummer (also I want to feel like I shot a scum, but also if it kills a townie I can't abstain from any responsibility because it was random. Win-win) Lol. I don't have that much time. I will say that I'm actually not sure about sk8r now. I need to ask him some questions when he gets back in the thread. Something kita said made me think of something. Other than that I'd be down for austin today. I don't think I'd do anyone else barring a good case. | ||
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June 26 2013 19:36 GMT
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I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita? | ||
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June 26 2013 19:40 GMT
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On June 27 2013 04:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:36 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry for disappearing, I've been really busy. I'm here now until lynch. Gonzaw you're right that I have your role, but I didn't use any abilities last night because I didn't want to waste anything when I wasn't sure about people. I didn't get any new abilities, maybe because I didn't use anything last night T_T. I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita? Wan't there a specific way gonzaw asked you to confirm it? Uh, idk. Did he? I can confirm I have it though. I already breadcrumbed it earlier to him, which I think he picked up on. | ||
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June 26 2013 19:43 GMT
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On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. | ||
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June 26 2013 19:45 GMT
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On June 27 2013 04:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:40 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:38 WaveofShadow wrote: On June 27 2013 04:36 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry for disappearing, I've been really busy. I'm here now until lynch. Gonzaw you're right that I have your role, but I didn't use any abilities last night because I didn't want to waste anything when I wasn't sure about people. I didn't get any new abilities, maybe because I didn't use anything last night T_T. I'm not liking sk8r too much anymore. He already answered what questions I wanted to ask, but didn't get a chance to. Basically, I still don't understand why he gave the TARDIS to the people he supposedly gave it to. Why solstice and why kita? Wan't there a specific way gonzaw asked you to confirm it? Uh, idk. Did he? I can confirm I have it though. I already breadcrumbed it earlier to him, which I think he picked up on. Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote: Well, I might as well reveal what mine does. I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following: 1)Protect himself of 1 KP 2)Busdrive 2 dudes 3)RB a dude I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/ I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something. At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea. deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf? You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)? Yeah I already said I used none of those abilities/items last night, which I think is the reason I didn't gain any items to use today. | ||
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June 26 2013 19:47 GMT
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On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered. | ||
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June 26 2013 19:51 GMT
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On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. | ||
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June 26 2013 19:59 GMT
#1758
On June 27 2013 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:47 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered. Then how specifically is the Tardis passed. IE what is required to pass it, and how frequently can you do this? You pass it when you use it and the new person receives it at the beginning of the next phase (eg. use it during the day, someone gets it at night), and then can be used immediately, so if Kita used the TARDIS which he had to have to not be dead right now, someone is getting the TARDIS at night tonight. This whole passing thing is what changed, so that's why I was confused. | ||
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June 26 2013 20:02 GMT
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On June 27 2013 04:58 gonzaw wrote: Xfire you are either lying or deconduo fucked up/nerfed the role You SHOULD have gotten a PM this D2, and you SHOULD have PMed the host back to gain a new ability. What ability you used or didn't use last night don't matter at all. Also, please tell me this: What option did you choose last night, (1) or (2)? 1) stay and fight. I lost, but after resting I met Lina. I choose to take the tazer and not the bat that she offered me. I have gotten no new pms after sending that last choice in. | ||
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June 26 2013 20:06 GMT
#1766
On June 27 2013 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:57 WaveofShadow wrote: On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. Aren't you the one with the bus driver role? I was talking about you. Don't ignore me Xfire. Respond to this. Oh, yeah I have a bus driver ability, but I have not used it and it can only be used at night. Gonzaw can confirm that. | ||
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June 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#1773
On June 27 2013 05:06 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 05:02 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:58 gonzaw wrote: Xfire you are either lying or deconduo fucked up/nerfed the role You SHOULD have gotten a PM this D2, and you SHOULD have PMed the host back to gain a new ability. What ability you used or didn't use last night don't matter at all. Also, please tell me this: What option did you choose last night, (1) or (2)? 1) stay and fight. I lost, but after resting I met Lina. I choose to take the tazer and not the bat that she offered me. I have gotten no new pms after sending that last choice in. So you DID get an "ability" today, don't lie. Also, by the way, nobody visit Xfire tonight, he's the NRA member (if you visit him he dies, that's what the tazer does) (where you planning on revealing that soon? Or did deconduo nerf it?) Also he'll most likely have KP tonight. Xfire, you better use it on whoever we tell you to, okay? Why didn't you choose the Baseball bat? It made you one-shot poisoner Oh, I'm confused. I got no pm's telling me of no abilities whatsoever. I only got story pms with choices. I made 2 choices and received no new abilities according to my knowledge. I did not know what the tazer or bat did. I haven't even gotten a pm telling me what my choice did yet. | ||
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June 26 2013 20:10 GMT
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June 26 2013 20:22 GMT
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June 26 2013 20:22 GMT
#1784
On June 27 2013 05:13 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 05:09 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 05:06 gonzaw wrote: On June 27 2013 05:02 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:58 gonzaw wrote: Xfire you are either lying or deconduo fucked up/nerfed the role You SHOULD have gotten a PM this D2, and you SHOULD have PMed the host back to gain a new ability. What ability you used or didn't use last night don't matter at all. Also, please tell me this: What option did you choose last night, (1) or (2)? 1) stay and fight. I lost, but after resting I met Lina. I choose to take the tazer and not the bat that she offered me. I have gotten no new pms after sending that last choice in. So you DID get an "ability" today, don't lie. Also, by the way, nobody visit Xfire tonight, he's the NRA member (if you visit him he dies, that's what the tazer does) (where you planning on revealing that soon? Or did deconduo nerf it?) Also he'll most likely have KP tonight. Xfire, you better use it on whoever we tell you to, okay? Why didn't you choose the Baseball bat? It made you one-shot poisoner Oh, I'm confused. I got no pm's telling me of no abilities whatsoever. I only got story pms with choices. I made 2 choices and received no new abilities according to my knowledge. I did not know what the tazer or bat did. I haven't even gotten a pm telling me what my choice did yet. That's weird, you SHOULD have gotten a PM like this: Show nested quote + *Stuff* <You have received: A Tazer> Tazer: After using this item, if anybody visits you that night, they will die (his action on you will still go through though) Weird....very weird I don't know, maybe I'll receive that tonight? | ||
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June 26 2013 20:41 GMT
#1792
On June 27 2013 05:00 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + If this is true then skater could not have passed the TARDIS to solstice during D1?On June 27 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On June 27 2013 04:47 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On June 27 2013 04:43 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Or is it part of the role? Might as well not hide it anymore, but the TARDIS is basically sk8r's role. There was a small change to his role which makes things a lot clearer now, which I didn't learn about until today because stuff wasn't making sense. Why did you learn it today and not before? Because I didn't ask about it until today. When kita said he received the TARDIS today, things weren't adding up with the way I designed the role, so I asked. Dec then answered. Then how specifically is the Tardis passed. IE what is required to pass it, and how frequently can you do this? You pass it when you use it and the new person receives it at the beginning of the next phase (eg. use it during the day, someone gets it at night), and then can be used immediately, so if Kita used the TARDIS which he had to have to not be dead right now, someone is getting the TARDIS at night tonight. This whole passing thing is what changed, so that's why I was confused. I missed this post so I'm answering it now. You pass it when you use it. He used it Day 1 to protect himself from BC's shot, so he passed it then. solstice would not have known he got the TARDIS until Night 1, but he died, so it was randomly distributed. Hmmmm. There is one other possibility that I just thought of which would make sense as well. BC said his shot was refunded. What if that ability negated the shot as well? What if it also negated and refunded sk8r's TARDIS use, so he kept it and used it night 1? | ||
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June 26 2013 20:54 GMT
#1805
On June 27 2013 05:18 gonzaw wrote: Read this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415738¤tpage=88#1752 So I read this gonzaw. I like the stuff about sk8r and Xata (but not me lol cause I'm town but I can see why you'd think I'm scum), but I'll have to look into Xata more closely tonight because I don't really remember anything about him lol. As for sk8r, I really don't like his choice of giving the TARDIS to kita. As town there is literally no reason to not give the TARDIS to someone obvious town like gonzaw or dandel night 1. Why Kita? Anyways, I'll also vote him to ensure the lynch. ##Vote: xxSK8rGUy277xx | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 20:56 GMT
#1809
On June 27 2013 05:51 WaveofShadow wrote: I also love how Xfire hasn't voted despite me reminding him about 100 times. I voted sheesh. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 20:58 GMT
#1811
On June 27 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote: Crossfire, You said you created skater's role and the TARDIS thing, right? If geript has an ability that basically says "Deal 1 KP to kita" and kita uses the TARDIS, is there a use that saves kita? If so, does that use somehow kill someone else, redirect any damage done to kita, etc.? He can choose to use the TARDIS to medic himself or bus drive himself with someone else in that instance. I also talked about that here. On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 21:00 GMT
#1813
On June 27 2013 05:59 kitaman27 wrote: Been busy at work and won't get out for another hour to catch up, but I just wanted everyone to know that I've passed the TARDIS to kurumi. Hopefully if Sk8r flips mafia, Kurumi can verify the anti-mafia clause that should confirm me as not being Sk8r's scum buddy. Why him!? Why not gonzaw!!!!!!!!?????? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 21:03 GMT
#1815
On June 27 2013 06:02 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + I thought that was with reference to you bus driving them using your power that Gonzaw created.On June 27 2013 05:58 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote: Crossfire, You said you created skater's role and the TARDIS thing, right? If geript has an ability that basically says "Deal 1 KP to kita" and kita uses the TARDIS, is there a use that saves kita? If so, does that use somehow kill someone else, redirect any damage done to kita, etc.? He can choose to use the TARDIS to medic himself or bus drive himself with someone else in that instance. I also talked about that here. On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. So unless another actor was involved here and killed DI, kita bus drove himself with DI and swapped geript's kill from himself to DI? Correct, but that seems way too dumb to do as any alignment cause we know what it does. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 21:04 GMT
#1816
On June 27 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: On June 27 2013 04:45 geript wrote: Please tell us wtf it does. Did it protect Kita from getting shot? He says he didn't use anything but couldn't he have 'bus-driven' or whatever DI and kita? That's what I'm thinking he did. He could have protected himself or bus driven himself with someone else. I don't know why he wouldn't just protect himself unless he's scum, but that would be too obvious because we know he has the TARDIS, and he told us what it did. Hmmmm. Now I'm thinking kita might have been set up unless he just went crazy and did something stupid as scum. Just to be clear, this is about the TARDIS. I see how it can be confusing now. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 21:07 GMT
#1822
On June 27 2013 06:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 05:59 kitaman27 wrote: Been busy at work and won't get out for another hour to catch up, but I just wanted everyone to know that I've passed the TARDIS to kurumi. Hopefully if Sk8r flips mafia, Kurumi can verify the anti-mafia clause that should confirm me as not being Sk8r's scum buddy. why not me? Yeah, why not you either!??? You KILLED scum!!!! KITA!!!????? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 21:09 GMT
#1826
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 26 2013 21:11 GMT
#1828
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 15:31 GMT
#1941
On June 27 2013 08:56 gonzaw wrote: SKATER WHY DIDNT YOU LIKE TOLD US KITA COULD HAVE BUSSED HIMSELF WITH DI? XFIRE WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US THAT EITHER? Is just everybody scum in this game? Hamm it, I want a drink.. I didn't tell you about it day 1 or night 1 because it wasn't relevant. I didn't want it to be exposed to scum. Here I still thought that sk8r was town. Day 2 when I discovered kita got it, I told him to pass it immediately because that should have been possible with the way I wrote the role originally. When he said that it had an action associated with its passing I became confused and asked deconduo about it. Unfortunately, I had to leave shortly thereafter and could not post until I came back to thread when I was asked by pm to choose between geript or kita. I choose kita. At this point I realized kita could save himself but didn't want to mention anything because we couldn't do anything about it because geript challenged kita, so it was either geript or kita and either way kita could bus drive. In this instance I didn't say anything because kita didn't seem to realize that he could save himself, so I kept quiet hoping he would die. Unfortunately, he did figure it out and saved himself and killed dandel. I revealed all this when I came back to the thread right before the lynch. On June 27 2013 09:00 gonzaw wrote: XFIRE, CHOOSE OPTION (3) AND SHOOT KITA I repeat: XFIRE, CHOOSE OPTION (3) AND SHOOT KITA I choose option three instead of escaping through the window or going out to the hall. This is when Yoz is fighting the WYM and I'm hiding in a room nearby. On June 27 2013 10:59 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, please tell me the name of the item you got, if you got any (and tell me which option you chose) (regarding the story in the Central Station with Roshi the White-Haired Mohawk Rastafari Underworld Lord) Don't know who this roshi guy is yet. Maybe I'll get a pm soon? Also, I'll do whatever you want me to do because I'm town. I'm sorry I've played so terribly this game but it's the truth. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 15:33 GMT
#1943
On June 28 2013 00:21 Xatalos wrote: Hmm... But that just means Crossfire99 might bus drive Kitaman27 and choose whoever he wants to vote for that way Is Crossfire99 atm the only one who can bus drive or can Kitaman27 do that still? If Crossfire99 is the only one, I guess we can say he's 100% scum if Kitaman27 gets bus drived and assume he doesn't. Kurumi can bus drive or protect tonight, but he says the TARDIS had its energy drained. I don't know anything about that. What I wrote for the abilities can be seen in sk8r's role pm when he flipped. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 15:47 GMT
#1952
On June 28 2013 00:36 Xatalos wrote: Crossfire99, what are your scumreads currently? You're not planning on bus driving Kitaman27 are you..? Apparently you want him dead now so there's no real reason to at least. Honestly, I'm super confused right now. I know who I think is town, but everyone else I have to spend time rereading. Gut feeling I have is that kita is 3rd party. He basically breadcrumbed it in his first post. Also, the fact that he knew about the TARDIS is weird. That was sk8r's role and he was town, so I can't really see mafia being told about the TARDIS, but idk. Also, if he really was 3rd party I can see him having an ability to drain the TARDIS's energy or something. I do not see scum having that ability because I intended for scum to be able to use the TARDIS in case Sally ended up being scum. That's where I'm at right now. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#1965
2) Go out to the hall, 3) Use Empty Gun. I chose 3, should I change it? Also, yeah I see I missed roshi in the pm. I skimmed over his name lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 19:50 GMT
#1975
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#1979
That left me with kurumi, austin, geript, kita, and Xata. I looked at what Kurumi has done and all he's done is make the towniest people in this game inventors, so he's cleared in my book. The same is true of austin plus he's been thinking about this game. I particularly like all of his posts on me even though he changes his mind on me a few times. He always says his reasoning and it makes sense, so I believe him. This left kita, geript, and Xata. I believe kita's survivor claim for now, so I'll leave him to the end in case he's actually mafia. This left geript and Xata. I looked at geript's filter and he's done nothing but tunnel kurumi based on meta. He also attacked Dandel who is totally town. Other than that he's done nothing. It's also very convenient that he choose to use his ability on kita without any input from us even though it probably would have been more helpful on someone who didn't claim survivor. If kita, is really survivor, then that's why geript was so gung ho about using it because it's a "protown" thing to do. If their scum together, then they had the whole busdrive planned in advance. Lastly, this left Xata. by process of elimination he's scum. Acro made a case on him and he's dead now. Hmm wait a minute. I think kita might actually be scum because i don't think 3 scum and 1 survivor would be balanced. Yeah I think kita, geript, and Xata are all mafia now. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 20:17 GMT
#1981
On June 28 2013 02:03 Crossfire99 wrote: Gonzaw, which of the 3 options should I choose tonight because I can change it. Should I 1) Escape through the window, 2) Go out to the hall, 3) Use Empty Gun. I chose 3, should I change it? Also, yeah I see I missed roshi in the pm. I skimmed over his name lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 20:24 GMT
#1985
On June 28 2013 05:23 gonzaw wrote: Choose "go outside and fight" (NOT the window one) Youll gain a medic kit So "2) Go out to the hall" | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 20:26 GMT
#1987
On June 28 2013 05:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: regardless of how this turns out. The role you made seems to be wicked awesome gonzaw It has been a lot of fun and I can tell he put a lot of work into it, so thanks gonzaw! Once I got my role pm, I knew I had gonzaw's role lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:00 GMT
#1997
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:29 GMT
#2017
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:35 GMT
#2021
On June 28 2013 06:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote: No we lynch geript. No one should dayvig until we figure out who has the TARDIS. Since kurumi died and probably didn't use it, that means one of us has it. Claim it if you have it. If you don't claim, I'll take that as a scum claim. Are you scum? Shoot Kita, we figure out what to do from there. You're not think, if Kita has the TARDIS again, do you think that will work!? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:38 GMT
#2025
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:43 GMT
#2027
##Vote: geript | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:54 GMT
#2030
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:55 GMT
#2031
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 21:56 GMT
#2032
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:00 GMT
#2034
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:03 GMT
#2040
On June 28 2013 06:59 WaveofShadow wrote: We have to guess right essentially it seems. Assuming scum has the TARDIS, kita is either protected, or geript is bussed with someone. We also have no idea about the full extent of Geript's/kita's abilities do we? I have no idea how we're supposed to get ourselves out of this to be honest. Maybe we just use the vote and one of gonzaw/geript dies and then we can shoot geript after? That's true. We just guess and then just hope scum guess wrong with the TARDIS. I personally think we're at 5-3 (if it's 4-3-1, we're screwed), so hope for the best. They only get one guess with the TARDIS today, then they have to pass it, so...idk | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:04 GMT
#2042
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:05 GMT
#2043
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:08 GMT
#2050
On June 28 2013 07:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Doesnt geript get chosen as one of the people too vote? Last time he didn't. It was me, dandel, and someone else, but I forget. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:09 GMT
#2053
On June 28 2013 07:08 gonzaw wrote: Kay this is complicated bc i think its possible for you t stop geripts mortal kombat, but ask host im not sure itll work xfir...last day you KNEW kita could have bussed himself to kill a towni....yet you VOTED HIM IN THE MORTAL KOMBAT fuck we are surrounded by scum damn you sk8 Gonzaw, did you see what I wrote earlier. That's literally what I was thinking. I also believed geript and his kp absorbing ability. On June 28 2013 00:31 Crossfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 08:56 gonzaw wrote: SKATER WHY DIDNT YOU LIKE TOLD US KITA COULD HAVE BUSSED HIMSELF WITH DI? XFIRE WHY DIDNT YOU TELL US THAT EITHER? Is just everybody scum in this game? Hamm it, I want a drink.. I didn't tell you about it day 1 or night 1 because it wasn't relevant. I didn't want it to be exposed to scum. Here I still thought that sk8r was town. Day 2 when I discovered kita got it, I told him to pass it immediately because that should have been possible with the way I wrote the role originally. When he said that it had an action associated with its passing I became confused and asked deconduo about it. Unfortunately, I had to leave shortly thereafter and could not post until I came back to thread when I was asked by pm to choose between geript or kita. I choose kita. At this point I realized kita could save himself but didn't want to mention anything because we couldn't do anything about it because geript challenged kita, so it was either geript or kita and either way kita could bus drive. In this instance I didn't say anything because kita didn't seem to realize that he could save himself, so I kept quiet hoping he would die. Unfortunately, he did figure it out and saved himself and killed dandel. I revealed all this when I came back to the thread right before the lynch. Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 09:00 gonzaw wrote: XFIRE, CHOOSE OPTION (3) AND SHOOT KITA I repeat: XFIRE, CHOOSE OPTION (3) AND SHOOT KITA I choose option three instead of escaping through the window or going out to the hall. This is when Yoz is fighting the WYM and I'm hiding in a room nearby. Show nested quote + On June 27 2013 10:59 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, please tell me the name of the item you got, if you got any (and tell me which option you chose) (regarding the story in the Central Station with Roshi the White-Haired Mohawk Rastafari Underworld Lord) Don't know who this roshi guy is yet. Maybe I'll get a pm soon? Also, I'll do whatever you want me to do because I'm town. I'm sorry I've played so terribly this game but it's the truth. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:19 GMT
#2058
I can either search the kitchen or bedroom. Which should I choose? Also, apparently I wasn't chosen for the vote thingy. That pm was taken back lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:22 GMT
#2061
On June 28 2013 07:21 geript wrote: Lol convenient right Xfire? I guess lol. I don't know what's convenient about it. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:32 GMT
#2063
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:34 GMT
#2065
On June 28 2013 07:29 gonzaw wrote: So xfire...what is the 3rd option? Also tell me the name of the item you got last night I got a first aid kit and don't have a third option to choose from. Last night I used the empty gun on xata to roleblock him and choose to go out into the hallway to confront yoz | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:34 GMT
#2067
On June 28 2013 07:33 Dandel Ion wrote: so geript's thing was one-shot and he couldn't actually use it or what just happened? he says he has three chances so maybe he can do it and take it back and do it again or something, but i don't know how that will help him. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:38 GMT
#2070
On June 28 2013 07:35 gonzaw wrote: I dont know if you are lying or wtf becaus you should be able to use the ruber duck now ...but you still have it since you mentioned the story you got because you had it ...wtf? oh I can use taht now? it's not listed as the 3rd option, so I thought i couldn't do anything with it. all it says is this: If I have rubber duck, i go to bathroom, i take it out of my pocket, and remember it was my son's favorite duck and always used it when bathing. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:53 GMT
#2072
On June 28 2013 07:35 gonzaw wrote: I dont know if you are lying or wtf becaus you should be able to use the ruber duck now ...but you still have it since you mentioned the story you got because you had it ...wtf? yeah I'm going to use the rubber duck now. the hosts made a mistake. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:54 GMT
#2074
On June 28 2013 07:53 Crossfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2013 07:35 gonzaw wrote: I dont know if you are lying or wtf becaus you should be able to use the ruber duck now ...but you still have it since you mentioned the story you got because you had it ...wtf? yeah I'm going to use the rubber duck now. the hosts made a mistake. or should i use it? which option should i choose? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:55 GMT
#2076
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 22:59 GMT
#2079
On June 28 2013 07:58 gonzaw wrote: Damn, I thought you had slipped as scum (you had used the duck to bus-drive townies, and lied, therefore didn't get that option). Well, I'll have to wait. There are 3 options: 1)Pardoner 2)1 cycle mason ability 3)Vote thief Which one are you guys comfortable for Xfire to be in? If kita+geript is scum, and austin may be 3P, then if Xata is scum Xfire has to be town basically. Also I'm finally home + Show Spoiler + FUCK YOU SPAIN GODDAMIT 1 goddamned penalty why are they such lucky fuckers? Shit fuck long-suck-neck-wrecker krakatoa-cunninlinguist goddhammit no dawg i told you the truth all the way | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 23:00 GMT
#2080
On June 28 2013 07:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: arg I feel like taking a risk do it i think we need to play risky to win | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 23:01 GMT
#2082
On June 28 2013 08:01 Dandel Ion wrote: I call for Votethief on kita or geript that's what i'm thinking | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 27 2013 23:28 GMT
#2087
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 03:59 GMT
#2180
Gonzaw, the only restriction on who can have the TARDIS is that if 2 scum have the TARDIS in a row, they can't choose who to pass it to for the next person, so it is random. Because Kurumi just had it and died, it was randomly distributed and anyone can have it no restrictions. As for what option to choose. I actually don't know if it is a good choice for me to use the rubber duck now knowing what we know. The only way scum can get dayvigged is if they don't have the TARDIS, but that means they will still have it tonight. Them being able to busdrive will mess us up. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to have my bus drive ability to use to tonight to give scum something to worry about. I know this is difficult for you to allow because you think I might be scum, but I think we are in such desperate straights that we need to do something to save ourselves. I won't make my choice now, but I'm just throwing this out there. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 04:04 GMT
#2181
+ Show Spoiler + Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Jean-Luc Picard, Captain of the Federation Starship Enterprise. Your first order of duty is to select a first officer. Your first officer (unless he is mafia) will protect your life with his own, and will jump in front of any phaser fire aimed at you by hostile entities. Once per game, during a day cycle, you will be able to summon your first officer to your ready room. During that day cycle, the two of you will be able to talk in private, away from the ears of the rest of the crew. Should you somehow die before your first officer, he will become Captain of the Enterprise, and will carry out its mission. Once you have selected your first officer, your mission is to explore new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations. In order to complete your mission, you may select a player to explore each night. The Enterprise will scan that player, allowing you to determine what sort of civilization that player supports, by revealing any night actions taken by that player the night before you scanned them. Be warned though, the universe is full of strange phenomena. There is a 25% chance each night that you encounter a temporal distortion during your scan, causing your scan to reveal the night actions taken by the player two nights prior. To aid you in your mission, you will sometimes be called upon to explore a planet's surface with an away team. During any phase that requires selecting a party to take a specific action, your vote will be given 3x the weight of a normal vote, due to your expertise in selecting away teams. BONUS WIN CONDITION: Hairless Victory. When you look around , you cannot help but notice that every member of Enterprise's crew, even the android, has a glorious head of hair...except yourself. THIS CANNOT STAND. Each night, you must remove the hair of one other player in the game. With the daypost, it will be announced that the player IS NOW BALD. If all players alive at the end of the game are bald, you will achieve a Hairless Victory. You may not reveal your bonus win condition." You win with the Town! | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 04:23 GMT
#2184
On June 28 2013 13:13 gonzaw wrote: Wow Xfire, thanks for inventing the role mechanic that will lose us the game -_- So...hmm.....fuck it I'm going to sleep. So you mean that, imagine kita has the TARDIS, and hasn't done anything with it. Now imagine BC day vigs kita. You say that kita will be protected, or will bus himself with someone else, even when he did NOTHING with the TARDIS yet? Or what? Can someone pass the TARDIS to someone even if they die that cycle (i.e to lynch)? Can you use the TARDIS even if you have no reason to use it (i.e can you activate the "vet" ability even if nobody shoots you, or activate the bus-drive ability even if it's never executed, etc)? Hmm, I'll have to think about letting you keep the Rubber Duck. The only other alternative (unless you want shitty Mason Phone I don't even know why I put it there I was in a hurry lol) is you getting pardoner, and that doesn't really help us much (if you NEED to use pardoner so scum doesn't force a lynch on a townie....we already lost). Don't blame me. I wasn't the one who gave it to kita night 1... Also, initially, I only intended the TARDIS to be used at night, but I wasn't explicit enough apparently, so the hosts said you can use it during the day. I mean in the example I gave them the person used it at night, but whatever. Kita will only have the option to bus himself or save himself if targeted by the dayvig. Basically, what it seems to be is that the only way that the TARDIS can affect a dayvig is if the person being shot has the TARDIS. So if BC say shoots geript, but kita has the TARDIS, kita cannot use the TARDIS to save geript because the dayvig is instant. I imagine whoever has the TARDIS can activate it whenever they want for whatever reason they want, so that probably means scum will still have the TARDIS tonight, though if we do lynch whoever has the TARDIS, scum will not be able to pass it to another scum tonight and it will have to be random. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 15:00 GMT
#2208
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 15:11 GMT
#2209
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 15:18 GMT
#2211
On June 29 2013 00:12 kitaman27 wrote: Passed it to Kurumi, though I mentioned that a while ago. No, I mean why did kurumi say its energy was drained? What does that mean? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 15:21 GMT
#2213
On June 29 2013 00:21 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 00:18 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 29 2013 00:12 kitaman27 wrote: Passed it to Kurumi, though I mentioned that a while ago. No, I mean why did kurumi say its energy was drained? What does that mean? That I reached the first part of my win condition by using the TARDIS? Does that mean that it can't be used anymore? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 16:17 GMT
#2220
IF I WAS SCUM AND KITA WAS SCUM, I WOULD HAVE TOLD KITA TO BUS MEAPAK TO SAVE HIM FROM BC'S SHOT. SO KITA AND I CAN'T BOTH BE SCUM. SAY HE'S NOT SCUM. SAY I'M SCUM, I SEE SOMEONE ASKING FOR THE TARDIS SO I TELL SK8R TO GIVE IT TO ME INSTEAD BECAUSE I JUST DEFENDED HIM SO HE TRUSTS ME AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO NONSCUM. I'M THEN ABLE TO SAVE MEAPAK. BASICALLY I THINK I JUST PROVED I'M NOT SCUM LOL. Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 16:26 GMT
#2227
On June 29 2013 01:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote: yeah i'm not sure gonzaw. I know i'm not scum so it can't be 2. Also, gonzaw imagine i'm scum and sk8r is town. The only people who know anything at all about the TARDIS are my scumbuddies and sk8r. I know sk8r can pass it. Why don't I at night just tell sk8r to use his role to me and give me a gift or something. The TARDIS stays hidden from town and scum have it without being obvious about it. Actually, think about this. IF I WAS SCUM AND KITA WAS SCUM, I WOULD HAVE TOLD KITA TO BUS MEAPAK TO SAVE HIM FROM BC'S SHOT. SO KITA AND I CAN'T BOTH BE SCUM. SAY HE'S NOT SCUM. SAY I'M SCUM, I SEE SOMEONE ASKING FOR THE TARDIS SO I TELL SK8R TO GIVE IT TO ME INSTEAD BECAUSE I JUST DEFENDED HIM SO HE TRUSTS ME AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO NONSCUM. I'M THEN ABLE TO SAVE MEAPAK. BASICALLY I THINK I JUST PROVED I'M NOT SCUM LOL. Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi. In order to bus MZ wouldnt you have had to know the shot was coming? On June 25 2013 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Meapak is mafia On June 25 2013 06:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Jack the ripper has claimed another victim BC posted that same line when he shot sk8r so we know it's a real dayvig type because i knew sk8r used the TARDIS to save himself from it | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 16:29 GMT
#2229
On June 29 2013 01:19 gonzaw wrote: Also remember this: Show nested quote + On June 28 2013 12:59 Crossfire99 wrote: As for what option to choose. I actually don't know if it is a good choice for me to use the rubber duck now knowing what we know. The only way scum can get dayvigged is if they don't have the TARDIS, but that means they will still have it tonight. Them being able to busdrive will mess us up. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to have my bus drive ability to use to tonight to give scum something to worry about. I know this is difficult for you to allow because you think I might be scum, but I think we are in such desperate straights that we need to do something to save ourselves. I won't make my choice now, but I'm just throwing this out there. Xfire right now wanted me to let him have the Busdriver ability for tonight... ......that's really sketchy considering the above (if he's scum he wants to be able to bus drive so kita isn't vigged and I or BC die instead for instance) His reasoning is that we are "in such a desperate straights" that we may need Xfire's bus ability. His reasoning is that it will give scum "something to worry about". But HOW would we need it? How on earth would Xfire use the bus drive ability tonight to help town? How would he "give scum something to worry about"? The ONLY problem comes if scum have the TARDIS, therefore scum have the busdriver ability. How would Xfire's bus driver ability be of any help there? From what I know if a busdriver busses X and Y, and another busdriver busses X and Y as well, the bus isn't "canceled", so if scum want to bus kita with a townie then how on earth could Xfire prevent that? ...damn, I can't help but feel I'm jumping to conclusions here....but really I don't know what to think Xfire, do you have anything to say? gonzaw i wanted the busdrive because if scum bus A and B and I bus C and B, then B is immune to actions. Understand? The same thing happened in aperture 2. Basically, it will give scum something to worry about so they maybe can't just bus the obvious shot with obvious mafia or something like that | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 16:41 GMT
#2232
On June 28 2013 12:59 Crossfire99 wrote: so i got some answers gonzaw. The TARDIS activates immediately. The only way a dayvig shot can be bus driven by the TARDIS is if the person getting shot has the TARDIS. Gonzaw, the only restriction on who can have the TARDIS is that if 2 scum have the TARDIS in a row, they can't choose who to pass it to for the next person, so it is random. Because Kurumi just had it and died, it was randomly distributed and anyone can have it no restrictions. As for what option to choose. I actually don't know if it is a good choice for me to use the rubber duck now knowing what we know. The only way scum can get dayvigged is if they don't have the TARDIS, but that means they will still have it tonight. Them being able to busdrive will mess us up. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to have my bus drive ability to use to tonight to give scum something to worry about. I know this is difficult for you to allow because you think I might be scum, but I think we are in such desperate straights that we need to do something to save ourselves. I won't make my choice now, but I'm just throwing this out there. I got those answers from sent. Today i got answers from dec. and they're different. He told me that i don't know when teh tardis activates. He told me the TARDIS supersedes all day actions which means to mean that whoever has the TARDIS can do whatever they want. I specifically asked about silent dayvigs and what not. and to further muddle the waters, sent told me i get my day ability now and dec told me i get it tonight. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 16:55 GMT
#2239
On June 29 2013 01:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 01:41 Crossfire99 wrote: well gonzaw, i'm not lying. the hosts condradicted themselves. On June 28 2013 12:59 Crossfire99 wrote: so i got some answers gonzaw. The TARDIS activates immediately. The only way a dayvig shot can be bus driven by the TARDIS is if the person getting shot has the TARDIS. Gonzaw, the only restriction on who can have the TARDIS is that if 2 scum have the TARDIS in a row, they can't choose who to pass it to for the next person, so it is random. Because Kurumi just had it and died, it was randomly distributed and anyone can have it no restrictions. As for what option to choose. I actually don't know if it is a good choice for me to use the rubber duck now knowing what we know. The only way scum can get dayvigged is if they don't have the TARDIS, but that means they will still have it tonight. Them being able to busdrive will mess us up. Therefore it is probably a good idea for me to have my bus drive ability to use to tonight to give scum something to worry about. I know this is difficult for you to allow because you think I might be scum, but I think we are in such desperate straights that we need to do something to save ourselves. I won't make my choice now, but I'm just throwing this out there. I got those answers from sent. Today i got answers from dec. and they're different. He told me that i don't know when teh tardis activates. He told me the TARDIS supersedes all day actions which means to mean that whoever has the TARDIS can do whatever they want. I specifically asked about silent dayvigs and what not. and to further muddle the waters, sent told me i get my day ability now and dec told me i get it tonight. How does this change the fact that someone would have had to protect OR bus MZ in 9 minutes, unless the TARDIS can undo the fucking shot after MZ flipped. On June 24 2013 06:23 Crossfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2013 06:18 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: There is no way he picked up a mason, or the Mason would have been shot as well. The role clearly says Pick up companion - you pick up a companion. Your companion travels with you in your TARDIS and anything that happens to you also happens to him. You may only have one companion at once. You share a mason chat with your companion. Yeah you're right. I didn't think through that completely, I just saw him post asking about masons immediately after solstice got shot, but before his role was revealed and then the Doctor was revealed to be able to mason people, so I got suspicious. I jumped the gun a little. On June 25 2013 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Meapak is mafia On June 25 2013 06:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Jack the ripper has claimed another victim On June 25 2013 07:00 deconduo wrote: Rose Tyler had been acting increasingly suspicious, and eventually someone acted on it. A sword ripped through her stomach and she dissolved into a heap of fleshy goo. Colonel Manton laughed far away in his control room, "Looks like they figured out about our Doppelgängers." A voice responded from the shadows, "Looks like you forgot to watch your back" Meapak_Ziphh as Rose Tyler as Colonel Manton has been eviscerated. + Show Spoiler + You are Colonel Manton In order to trick the doctor you and your allies have kidnapped and disguised as some of his allies. In addition you have taken their powers. [Redacted] Your allies are: [Redacted] You have a [Redacted] You win with The Church Your disguise is as follows: --------- You are Rose Tyler! You are a capable and resourceful companion to the Doctor. Throughout your journeys together, you have proven capable of taking the initiative and defusing difficult situations on your own. As such, your own influence is considerable, and you are bound and determined to get people talking. During the day phase, you may PM the host with the names of two players. These two players will then be masoned for the following night phase. Rose Tyler will have read only access to the mason QT, and the masoned players will not be directly told that there is someone observing. At any point in the game, you may permanently give up this power and assume the form of 'the Bad Wolf' by typing ##gaze into the Heart of the TARDIS in thread. The Bad Wolf means business. In the form of 'the Bad Wolf,' you become a dealer of death, and gain one vigilante bullet. This bullet can be used at any time. If used during the day, the Bad Wolf must type ##divide atoms (target) in thread to perform the shot. If used at night, the shot functions as a typical vigilante shot. If the shot is targeted at the Doctor, 'the Bad Wolf' instead deals 1KP to herself. Note to hosts: This is my first PTP so I'm not sure if this is broken as hell. I wanted to include the Bad Wolf storyline for Rose, but it's hard to make this anything other than a KP dealing role. So I ended up with what is essentially a vigilante with flair...a gun with a little bit of extra investigative/manipulative power. You win with The Alliance I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:15 GMT
#2247
On June 29 2013 02:07 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 01:55 Crossfire99 wrote: I posted 2 minutes before bc said that meapak was mafia. I can also tell you that there were 30 minutes to the flip. There is more then enough time for something to be done if i had the tardis. But you're right kita had it. There is no reason for kita to draw attention to the tardis if we were scum together because i could have gotten sk8r to give it to me quietly. Then meapak doesn't die to bc. Therefore kita and i aren't the same alignment. If i was scum, why would i let a non scum player ask for the tardis when I could have gotten it myself. Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote: Because of all of this i think kita is actually a survivor now because i don't see scum being told about the TARDIS, which means austin must be scum with geript and xata. Ugh i need to look over austin's filter and think about thsi. So kita is 3P, and you are not the same alignment as kita? Thank god! This means we don't have 2 survivors! Unfortunately, it still means you can be scum (hint: scum have different alignment than 3P) Also maybe you have slipped there that you are treating kita as scum (with the "I'm not the same alignment as him" comment and the next one), when you specifically said you think he's 3P now Ugh. I don't know what i can do to convince you guys i'm not scum. How about this? Whatever happened to the role Zeph created, the mason dayvig role that has to have been used day 1 to kill solstice. We have all our dayvigs accounted for day 2. We know that I and austin can't be the mason dayvig role, so who has it? xata or kita? One of them is going to kill us again today, because they will have been recharged. P.S austin either lied or mistakenly said that zeph created meapak's role. I'm thinking lied because i believe kita's third party claim because i don't see him knowing about the TARDIS unless he's third party because I know I'm town. Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:34 GMT
#2257
On June 29 2013 02:15 gonzaw wrote: Hey Xfire: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 01:48 gonzaw wrote: Speaking of which, would you mind explaining that "Xata claimed he wasn't RBed" thing? Please explain Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 01:56 WaveofShadow wrote: It might be the confidence is a massive bluff and the TARDIS can't be used anymore...? I don't know if that's a risk we can take. Sk8 and SnB fucked us over so hard. If it was just 'used twice--->gets drained' then why wouldn't it have been in Sk8's role PM? I can't see hosts nerfing something and not telling the guy who HAS the fucking role. Why isn't it possible? IF Xfire told them not to tell him that it's possible. If the hosts wanted to nerf the role without altering the role PM it's possible. From what I gather, it's not that sk8 is the "master of the tardis", he's just a guy that has the TARDIS at the beginning of the game, thus he would get the same info as any other player that gets the TARDIS. If Xfire/hosts don't want those players to know that info about the TARDIS, then they wouldn't want sk8 to know either. I can't explain about the tardis being drained. Everything I wrote is in sk8r's role pm. He just started with the TARDIS. The hosts must have done something with it because I didn't have any restrictions on the TARDIS. The thing is that sk8r used the tardis both day and night 1 because you have to use it in order to pass it. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:35 GMT
#2259
On June 29 2013 02:34 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata No, the shot needs to be on kita either way. Why? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:36 GMT
#2262
On June 29 2013 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 02:35 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 29 2013 02:34 Dandel Ion wrote: On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata No, the shot needs to be on kita either way. Why? So we don't have to waste a lynch on him. We should rather kill scum than a survivor. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:46 GMT
#2276
On June 29 2013 02:45 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote: On June 29 2013 02:39 gonzaw wrote: On June 29 2013 02:37 Dandel Ion wrote: On June 29 2013 02:36 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 29 2013 02:35 Dandel Ion wrote: On June 29 2013 02:35 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 29 2013 02:34 Dandel Ion wrote: On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata No, the shot needs to be on kita either way. Why? So we don't have to waste a lynch on him. We should rather kill scum than a survivor. He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter. If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit We could win faster, but risk a lot of shit relying on kita not playing anti-town as fuck, which we can't rely on. He needs to die. We can slow-roll this game, no problem. I see no need to rush it. You seem to have forgotten scum have TARDIS, and apparently this super Day-vig thing from Zepphirds role, and have a night KP, and may have bus drivers all over the place. This is why I say we need my bus drive tonight to prevent scum from easily planning tonight | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 17:51 GMT
#2283
On June 29 2013 02:48 Dandel Ion wrote: A busdriver could be good. In conjunction with the medic we can protect both BC and gonzo. Problem is coordinating it is impossible, so it's not all that useful in practice. i can coordinate with gonzo using my role info lol. gonzaw should i choose dandel instead of bc for austin's thing tonight so bc can still use his role tonight? i didnt send the pm yet | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:03 GMT
#2292
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:06 GMT
#2295
On June 29 2013 03:05 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 03:03 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw should i choose dandel instead of bc for austin's thing tonight so bc can still use his role tonight? i didnt send the pm yet How should I know? BC can still use his role even if austin were to give him powers right? So what's the difference? i didnt realize that lol | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:06 GMT
#2296
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 18:24 GMT
#2304
On June 29 2013 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Didn't Xata claim vote thief? (or forced vote or whatever) Yeah, but he's never done it. Actually he said he was going to do it last night, but I roleblocked him, which he lied about. Additionally it would make sense as him for scum to say he was going to do it to geript who is his scum buddy because then he will be "forced" to vote for kita because I think xata is lying about his role and can't do what he says he can. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 19:48 GMT
#2350
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#2352
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2365
On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote: IE scum having even more day shots seems incredibly unlikely. Why? Because meapak had a extra shot, geript has had one, and if we are right, xat has had one. 3 extra kp + 2 nights is 5 kp total by day 3 (if meapak had shot) Figure 3 mafia and 1 third party or 4 mafia. for an argument 5 kp by day 3 if uninterrupted is going to drop town from 11-6. If we fuck up lynches then its 4 town left vs 3 mafia and 1 3p(or 4 mafia). By day 3. Is it possible there is 4 mafia and 1 3p ? possibly but it seems unlikely as hell. Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are. No i did not have a dayvig i could use day 1. On June 28 2013 05:14 gonzaw wrote: Heres the deal. Evefy phase as soon as it starts xfire gets a pm from host with a story. At the end of pm host gives xfire a choice between various options Xfire has all phase to choose an option (if he no chooses same thing is repeated next cycle) As soon as he pms answer to host, host pms him back with more story and either doesnt do anything else, or gives xfire an item xfire started with 3 items and can gain more by this method once xfire gets an item, he could theoretically use it immediately. However some can only be used at night, and others can only be used at day he got the 1st pm as soon as n1 started yes some stuff he said i dont really understand but im done with trying to understand how other people use their role. They seem to be shitting things up for the lulz or something yeah bc good vheck but like maybe you shouldnt have claimed also i diubt people would give eeach other GF abilities (who would?) so itll most likely be correct dunno ehy geriot is more likely mafia than say xfire but whatever i can entertain thwt notion IF SOMEONE MAKES A FUCKING CASE Please....make cases.....try got no pm from host so il assume my invention iw fine. Hope it doesnt get nerfed Yeah austin thise shits are neat, but not terribly interesting. The player roster thing is nice ciuld have used it. For another time i guess. Hope i dont disappoint. At worse it wont be 100% useless so if you dont like it shame upon hou And this post was at the start of Day 2 revealing my 3 items/abilities. On June 27 2013 03:34 gonzaw wrote: Well, I might as well reveal what mine does. I won't reveal the "juicy bits", but effectively, ma niggah last night could do one of the following: 1)Protect himself of 1 KP 2)Busdrive 2 dudes 3)RB a dude I presume he used (1) since nobody claimed RBed or funny stuff Also, right now he has one of 2 new abilities, which if he's scum then we are in bad hands as well :/ I'll wait until he claims what ability he got (he can only know one of them, can't know both) so he doesn't lie or something. At least this is if the role didn't get nerfed so I have no idea. deconduo, if you nerfed a role, did you tell the role creator about the nerf? You know, considering it'd be kind of "unfair", benefiting the people who created roles that WERENT nerfed (thus know 100% what the role does) to people who created roles that did (thus can't know what the role does)? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:16 GMT
#2368
On June 29 2013 05:14 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are. No He could have gotten a super day vig with 2 shots on N3 But he can't know because he already used the Empty Gun Though it did prove that either xat or I was lying so I think it was a good choice lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:17 GMT
#2372
On June 29 2013 05:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 05:12 gonzaw wrote: On June 29 2013 04:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Only reason I say this, is im pretty sure the gun of slots raped zeph day 1 Yes, using it at night is a random risk But you can use it now. We just need to avoid Xata using his day vig...that's all we need to do to win Then I dunno who to lynch first, geript kita or Xata. I'd say Xata in case he doesn't use his day vig and can use it on D4. We don't know kita's role, so his may be dangerous Although geript is the only 100% sure scum... choices choices how do we know xata has more than 1 day vig shot? how do we know kita didnt day vig sol day 1? either xata or kita has zeph's role On June 24 2013 08:06 Zephirdd wrote: The wording of my role is Show nested quote + You can eat a person during day time anonymously, but you need a day to enjoy the meal. I made an addendum that it's a normal dayvig that needs a day to recharge. so yeah, it's instant(or as soon as the host sees it). I might be wrong however. It is possible that there is another dayvig role. The role is Madam Vastra. also, anonymous dayvigs are fun, what's the issue? :D | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:18 GMT
#2374
On June 29 2013 05:16 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 05:16 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 29 2013 05:14 gonzaw wrote: On June 29 2013 05:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Theres an easy way to explain a ton of this. Gonza, does xfires role include a dayvig shot he could have had for day 1? if not, xat or kita must be scum or both are. No He could have gotten a super day vig with 2 shots on N3 But he can't know because he already used the Empty Gun Though it did prove that either xat or I was lying so I think it was a good choice lol. Why didn't he just say he was RBed though? wtf? I never understood that probably thought they could ensure a mislynch on me with it and with his dayvig they could win? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:27 GMT
#2389
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#2392
On June 29 2013 05:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 05:27 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw i just thought of an idea. what if i choose myself for austin's thingy? It doesn't matter what he gives me as long as i can use both my role and austin's gift in one night. I then can use one of the items plus austin's gift to create awesome combos. What do you think? or we just keep having me check people -_- That's assumed but if you could make me have awesome combos, it would help. I don't care either way, and I can still choose you to get the power. It was just a crazy thought I had. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#2406
On June 29 2013 05:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: why do I just think we lost the game -_- change your shot then real fast to someone else | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#2411
On June 29 2013 05:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 05:48 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 29 2013 05:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: why do I just think we lost the game -_- change your shot then real fast to someone else can't change, its instantaneous when a host sees it well we gotta hope for the best. I really hope that you're correct and there are only 3 scum plus 3rd party kita, or that kita is scum. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#2412
On June 29 2013 05:50 WaveofShadow wrote: We haven't lost even if he flips 3P. Just. Trust. Ok WoS. Lead us to victory. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:04 GMT
#2425
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:05 GMT
#2427
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:08 GMT
#2430
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:14 GMT
#2434
On June 29 2013 06:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: apparently I activated it wrong. ##Call: os'eesht you can change your target now | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:15 GMT
#2435
On June 29 2013 06:14 Crossfire99 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 06:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: apparently I activated it wrong. ##Call: os'eesht you can change your target now i fyou want | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:17 GMT
#2436
ROLL DAT DIE | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2438
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:24 GMT
#2440
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:41 GMT
#2442
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 21:50 GMT
#2445
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:01 GMT
#2449
On June 29 2013 07:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote: you ruined my fun gonza -_- Do it for real BC but don't tell us who. Keep it hidden from scum! | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:04 GMT
#2454
On June 29 2013 07:01 gonzaw wrote: Hey guys, remember Acro's plan?: Show nested quote + On June 22 2013 11:04 Acrofales wrote: I'm home! Haven't read anything yet, but after umpteen scumgames and a fairly longish break, I finally rolled town! Also, in case this plan hasn't been proposed yet, I think everybody should say what character they made the role for. That way, if someone claims, someone else can back that shit up, or act as a lie detector. What if everybody not only had claimed what character they made the role for, but also had claimed THE WHOLE ROLE? Why didn't we do that? Why are we so stupid? (well at least I am not stupid because my role is step-by-step and I could reveal more info to the guy that has my role if he's scum so I was fine in not claiming that ) Gonzaw, is there an option to make a choice tonight? If so, what should I choose? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:09 GMT
#2455
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:41 GMT
#2470
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:45 GMT
#2478
On June 29 2013 07:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote: -_- fuck. well looks like xfire is scum. no i'm not. this game makes no sense. it is a setup for this very reason. Why didn't scum use the TARDIS to redirect the shot on gonzaw or BC? They did it so they can incriminate me and secure a mislynch and probably win the game. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:46 GMT
#2479
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#2480
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:49 GMT
#2482
On June 29 2013 07:48 WaveofShadow wrote: Even if it's 3-3-1 right now it shouldn't be over. I really hope so. I hope you can use your ability and that it does town good cause we're gonna need big plays. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 28 2013 22:50 GMT
#2483
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 17:27 GMT
#2514
##Unvote ##Vote: kitaman27 | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 19:49 GMT
#2549
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#2550
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#2551
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#2553
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 19:54 GMT
#2559
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 19:59 GMT
#2569
On June 30 2013 04:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2013 04:55 gonzaw wrote: On June 30 2013 04:50 Crossfire99 wrote: cause i'm town On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote: Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me. On June 28 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote: On June 28 2013 06:00 Crossfire99 wrote: I roleblocked Xata. This is a lie btw - unless you don't receive a "roleblocked" PM in this game for some reason. Wth Crossfire99? Hosts: do you receive a "roleblocked" PM in this game? On June 29 2013 07:42 deconduo wrote: Xatalos as Martha Jones has been mobbed to death by E'woks. You win with The Alliance Seems legit brah that means He would have had to have used his Bus drive already no? or that someone else had visited him since he's had the tazer since xata didn't die nope cause i still have the rubber duck which gonzaw can confirm | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:00 GMT
#2573
On June 30 2013 04:55 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote: Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me. Show nested quote + On June 28 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote: On June 28 2013 06:00 Crossfire99 wrote: I roleblocked Xata. This is a lie btw - unless you don't receive a "roleblocked" PM in this game for some reason. Wth Crossfire99? Hosts: do you receive a "roleblocked" PM in this game? Show nested quote + On June 29 2013 07:42 deconduo wrote: Xatalos as Martha Jones has been mobbed to death by E'woks. You win with The Alliance Seems legit brah than the hosts screwed up or xata missed the pm. idk. sent said my action was in the spreadsheet. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:03 GMT
#2577
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:06 GMT
#2580
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:10 GMT
#2585
On June 30 2013 05:08 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, so what was that you wanted to talk to me about huh? Well since you assume I'm scum. I don't think you will listen to me, but I basically didn't want to choose option 1 because I think we will lose if i choose it. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:10 GMT
#2588
On June 30 2013 05:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2013 05:03 gonzaw wrote: On June 30 2013 05:00 Crossfire99 wrote: than the hosts screwed up or xata missed the pm. idk. sent said my action was in the spreadsheet. Hosts, are you the incredible fucktards that Xfire is making you out to be? I seriously doubt so We may change the rules in our infinite wisdom But yeah Xatalos did get roleblocked. Told you guys i wasn't lying. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:14 GMT
#2598
That leaves me, austin, kita, geript. Geript 100% scum. kita 100% not town (whether that is 3rd party or scum idk, but I hope it is scum). That leaves me and austin. I know I'm town, so that leaves austin. Look at what acro was thinking before he died. On June 25 2013 04:57 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On June 25 2013 04:42 austinmcc wrote: THIS POST GOT WAY TOO BIG AND IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING TOWARDS THE END acro, this is some butt right here. On June 24 2013 12:24 Acrofales wrote: I also had a quick look at Xfire's filter. There's not much content there, but the bit there is is actually pretty good. Firstly, he defends sk8er when the ball was getting rolling. He basically singlehandedly stopped the lynch on sk8er. That seems to mean they are either scum together, or Xfire isn't scum: there seems to be no reason for a scum Xfire to prevent a lynch on town sk8er. Now, given my updated read on sk8er I am getting back to thinking he's town, and presumably will prove it through whatever mechanism he's claiming. So Xfire seems in the clear too. On June 24 2013 12:25 Acrofales wrote: austin completely missing stuff like that is not making me any more comfortable about him. For one, On June 24 2013 10:41 austinmcc wrote: Maybe that was unclear, but no context meant I was just re-filtering and not going through to really dig into when votes came in, when he posted, where votes moved.On June 24 2013 10:28 gonzaw wrote: That one I can actually do tonight, at least out of context. Rest needs to wait until tomorrow.Okay, take your time (well...at least take LESS time than you did last cycle >_> ) So, thoughts on Xfire? ... Without any context, just checking his filter, doesn't pass the smell test. ... Look guys! I'll throw out a test balloon, and when it hilariously backfires and someone calls me scum, I will backpedal as fast as I can. Additionally, now that you have exhaustively gone through the context, you're still wrong. Whether they were "sheep votes" or not, it is completely clear that Xfire killed the momentum in that lynch. Half of my case was based on the fact that sk8er reacted in a non-townlike manner to expecting to die. sk8er himself then claimed (a little bit) how his role worked, which isn't enough because who knows whether he's telling the truth. Xfire confirmed that it was either the truth or they're both lying scum (highly unlikely). So the very fact that his role prevented him from dying debunked most of my case. And when I read the thread upon returning from the park (not sleeping, you derps), I wondered why sk8er hadn't been lynched, and that was the exact moment in the thread where I thought "yeah, I wouldn't lynch sk8er anymore at this point". So... you wrote ALL of that to call me BAD? Or are you calling Xfire scum? Or what exactly are you doing? I know I'd be happy with your head on a stake tomorrow. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:17 GMT
#2601
WE LYNCH KITA TODAY! | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:20 GMT
#2608
On June 30 2013 05:16 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, answer me this: If Sk8 is town, if you are town, if kita's role is the one Zepphird made (and Zepphird never made any mention about the TARDIS in it), how in hell could scum kita possibly know about the TARDIS back in N1? He might actually be 3rd party. Or he may have gotten a rolecop ability from somewhere. IDK. This game makes no sense to me. You know what my crazy conspiracy theory of the day is. I feel like I'm in WLIIA again. I think kita and austin are scum together, but kita actually has austin's role but has been pretending to have zeph's role so that if we lynched geript today like austin wanted to, then we lynch kita tomorrow cause he "had" zeph's role, then we lose cause austin actually had it and can kill us day 5. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:25 GMT
#2613
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:28 GMT
#2616
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:30 GMT
#2617
On June 30 2013 05:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote: IS AUSTIN HERE no cause i think he might be scum T_T (idk what is happening in this game anymore). It would make sense with geript not voting to kill austin day 1. Acro was also suspicious of austin and then he died. Basically Acro was suspicious of austin because of the weirdness with which he viewed me which i quoted earlier. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:31 GMT
#2620
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:32 GMT
#2622
On June 30 2013 05:31 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2013 05:25 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw do you think I'm town right now? I need your advice desparately because i don't know what to do. I had a crazy thought that could win us the game right now but it will require luck and planning. I...I have no idea. Regarding your "kita has austin's role" conspiracy theory...what would have happened if kita was lynched back in D2? He would have flipped austin's role and austin would have been caught in a lie, right? Although if austin has Zepphird's role kita could indeed be 3P since you just replace Xata with austin in that "[scum] PMed 3P kita and planned everything" conspiracy theory I had Correct, but somehow we got diverted to a sk8r lynch. Who started that? i need to reread. maybe we'll learn something. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:35 GMT
#2628
On June 30 2013 05:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Madam Vastra and Strax we both know are in this game. Strax only had one aspect of his role claimed, Medic. I don't think geript was bullshitting when he said he could prot kita. Kita is madam vastra. Geript's role would make sense being strax, because strax who was warrior who got demoted to medic, but always loves challenging people to fights/duel/etc. Flavor wise it makes sense strax is geript and kita is madame vastra. Random flavor theory. Strax and madame vastra work together and stuff so maybe they can mason each other if they discover who each other is. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:40 GMT
#2637
On June 30 2013 05:36 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2013 05:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Gonza you were right. Kill kita now, Geript tomorrow. ...I was? Show nested quote + IF austin doesn't reappear before 5 minutes to lynch we kill geript, I block kita at night (thus blocking his factional KP/his ability to regenerate his shot) Why that switch if austin doesn't turn up? Well Xfire, I'll assume you are town for now then I suppose. What is that plan of yours? Did you get your item instantly right now? You could use the vote thief ability right now so WOS doesn't have to kill himself My plan is for you to secretly use your ability on someone tonight that you think is town and if scum try to lynch that person tomorrow then we have a chance to still survive and go to the next day. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:46 GMT
#2650
On June 30 2013 05:42 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2013 05:40 Crossfire99 wrote: On June 30 2013 05:36 gonzaw wrote: On June 30 2013 05:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Gonza you were right. Kill kita now, Geript tomorrow. ...I was? IF austin doesn't reappear before 5 minutes to lynch we kill geript, I block kita at night (thus blocking his factional KP/his ability to regenerate his shot) Why that switch if austin doesn't turn up? Well Xfire, I'll assume you are town for now then I suppose. What is that plan of yours? Did you get your item instantly right now? You could use the vote thief ability right now so WOS doesn't have to kill himself My plan is for you to secretly use your ability on someone tonight that you think is town and if scum try to lynch that person tomorrow then we have a chance to still survive and go to the next day. Yeah I planned on doing that tonight as well But that works only if WOS is alive and somehow scum can force a lynch on a townie. How can that happen without us having lost already (being 2v2 or 3v3 etc)? worst case scenario is that we are at 4-3 with wos vote, so scum have to die today, but then wos dies if we do that ugh. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED AT LEAST 1 SCUM (OR ALIGNED 3RD PARTY KITA) TO DIE TODAY. IT MIGHT BE "SAFER" TO LYNCH GERIPT CAUSE EVERYONE'S ALREADY ON HIM, BUT THAT ASSUMES THAT AUSTIN IS TOWN AND WON'T JUMP SHIP. uuuuuuggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh. idk what to do. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:48 GMT
#2654
On June 30 2013 05:45 gonzaw wrote: So..if austin is scum, he still has already sent those "polls" thing, right? So he is FORCED to choose that shit, isn't he? What were the options already? I chose "gonzaw", Xfire was about to choose someone else, and what else? If the option is vig/medic again, then even scum austin is forced to give that to either me or BC so we can still make use of it. What do you guys think is best? Xfire, which option did you choose? Or have you not chosen yet? If you haven't, what do you think is more important: The bus driver item, or the Vote Thief item? I'm not sure but whatever i choose i will not tell the thread. Only you will know by what story i reveal to you. I want to keep it that way. I choose to give my ability to bc, but I think i might want to change that to myself if that is acceptable and you still think i'm town so i can plan around a potential busdrive of my own doing. This isn't finalized and I can still choose bc if you aren't comfortable with me choosing myself. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:49 GMT
#2657
##Vote: geript | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:56 GMT
#2666
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:58 GMT
#2672
On June 30 2013 05:57 gonzaw wrote: Is there any difference if you or BC gets it? I didn't really get that part no. it is just who gets the role. i want it so i can plan around potential bus drive shennanies of my own doing tonight. otherwise it will be all random. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 20:59 GMT
#2676
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#2684
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:02 GMT
#2693
On June 30 2013 06:02 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol my unvote shouldn't go through since it was after deadline... we\'ll see what mods say. but you're vote shouldn't go through cause it was after the deadline. Once it hits :00 it is too late | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:04 GMT
#2700
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:05 GMT
#2702
On June 30 2013 06:04 gonzaw wrote: Getting geript lynched is surprising, I thought it would have been NL They were probably afraid of outing themselves with WoS lurking in the shadows tonight. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:06 GMT
#2703
On June 30 2013 06:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: wouldn't they have auto won if both of them unvoted? no cause me, you, gonzaw, and wos would have still voted geript. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:08 GMT
#2707
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United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:09 GMT
#2708
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:10 GMT
#2709
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:12 GMT
#2712
On June 30 2013 06:11 kitaman27 wrote: Ohhhhh.....I get it now. no man, it's not like that scum. It's like he's gonna have to trust me when I tell him about night actions and stuff. You need trust there, otherwise planning and stuff won't work out lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:13 GMT
#2718
On June 30 2013 06:13 austinmcc wrote: I'm thoroughly confused by the polls that you guys apparently got. And by crossfire. i know you're confused because being mafia makes it hard to determine alignment. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:17 GMT
#2726
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:21 GMT
#2734
On June 30 2013 06:19 gonzaw wrote: okay, so 3v2 now we lost basically you guys do whatever you want to do if you think we can NOT lose tonight, I have no powers anyways no gonzaw, we did not lose yet. You gave yourself a power with austin's thing, correct? You also have your own power to use tonight, correct? Remember me and you can plan stuff. Once I get pms, tell me what to choose and you will know what i chose. We still have a chance. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:25 GMT
#2737
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:28 GMT
#2744
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:34 GMT
#2750
On June 30 2013 06:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: N1 My role is jenny flint. I have the option of alignment check or rolecheck I choose which I want to use on any player but can only check dem the once. Roleblock and a one shot anytime vig I would lynch bc for claiming jenny flint based on flavor cause she, strax, and madame vastra were a trio, but i'm almost 100% positive flavor isn't relevant to alignment. Plus bc shot scum, so he's town lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:39 GMT
#2752
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:40 GMT
#2753
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:41 GMT
#2755
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:44 GMT
#2757
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 21:48 GMT
#2759
On June 30 2013 06:45 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + Porkchop.On June 30 2013 06:39 Crossfire99 wrote: yo austin, when do you give me my role son? Still not how my role works. I need to look back over you and gonzaw both, but...if you thought I was giving you a role tonight AND you've got your own stuff, then it makes sense you wouldn't go for the voteswap, because you thought you'd be able to take it tonight. That's not how it works. ...seriously...How does it work then? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 22:29 GMT
#2761
Also, tell austin to give me an ability tonight so i can plan my shenanigans. Hurry up austin. do it. Yeah I realized I misread what you wrote earlier. I thought you gave abilities to both people not just one. whatever. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#2764
On June 30 2013 07:31 kitaman27 wrote: So you're trying to coordinate with gonzaw AND austin? Apparently someone can't count. I'm still hoping that you're scum and that austin is town and I don't know the setup balance which is very much a possibility with the roles you guys got (seriously how many extra shots/protection did you guys get). We'll cross the austin is scum bridge when we lynch you tomorrow and the game isn't over. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 22:45 GMT
#2766
Austin, I will consider it a 100% scum claim if you don't give me an ability tonight. I hope you're town and you'll do it without the encouragement lol. Honestly, the only thing I'm sure about is Kita being scum. The rest is by process of elimination lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 22:47 GMT
#2768
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 22:57 GMT
#2770
I'm gonna be back later, possibly tomorrow to talk some more and ponder stuff. I got to take a break and play the WIFOM game with myself now lol. Gonzaw I will take recommendations though. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 23:04 GMT
#2773
On June 30 2013 07:53 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2013 07:45 Crossfire99 wrote: Also, how about this for incentive. Austin, I will consider it a 100% scum claim if you don't give me an ability tonight. I hope you're town and you'll do it without the encouragement lol. Honestly, the only thing I'm sure about is Kita being scum. The rest is by process of elimination lol. I'm still not sure why YOU need to have the ability You can still use the bus driver if I get austin's ability. If you want to coordinate the bus and shit, well we have the above codification, we can use a similar one for me to communicate to you what power I got and who I'm using it on. Oh you're right lol. Sorry, way too many ideas are floating in my head right now. I'm not thinking clearly. Actually, I'd still want austin to give me the item because it will be easier for us to do last minute shenanigans if only i am the one doing the actions and not waiting on arduous communication between us lol. So, still tell give austin to give it to me. It's just easier that way. Basically gonzaw i don't like you (jk jk) | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 23:04 GMT
#2774
On June 30 2013 08:00 gonzaw wrote: Did you get the stuff above? Also, please answer again: Can you get the item tonight instantly or do you get it when D4 starts? (goddamit Xfire answer this) i'm waiting on the host answer... I already asked... | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 29 2013 23:05 GMT
#2775
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 18:50 GMT
#2791
gonzaw i'm back. I chose the option that included the word "where". Whether or not I got an item only you know, but let's use the designator I#F for the item I may or may not have gotten. Also I think you messed up the quote for item E. It should be "wait" not "way". Otherwise I think I understand everything (hopefully lol). If I got everything correctly, I think we should do this. Ability N#C: Either N#B like you said or N#E. Other Ability: N#A or N#C My items: I#A - N#A - N#B I#A - N#C - N#E I#B - N#C - N#D I#C - N#E - N#A I#C - N#C - N#B I don't want to use item D. I#E - N#A - N#D I#F - N#B - N#A Those are the options i'm thinking of. What do you think? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 18:52 GMT
#2792
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 18:54 GMT
#2793
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 19:07 GMT
#2801
On July 01 2013 03:55 austinmcc wrote: Again, I CANNOT GIVE YOU AN ABILITY. NOR WOULD I. #1 - You're apparently an NRA member. NOBODY should be saying "Hey austin, target crossfire, the NRA member, to give him an ability." #2 - Again, even if you WEREN'T an NRA member, I cannot give you a power. That is not an option for me tonight. #3 - Even if you WEREN'T an NRA member, AND were an option for my power tonight, it is too late. #4 - Even if you WEREN'T an NRA member, AND were an option for my power tonight, AND it was early enough in the night phase that I can assign powers, then I still wouldn't give you anything, because I don't see gonzaw or BC being mafia. Well, thanks for claiming scum. That made this game easy. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 19:20 GMT
#2805
On July 01 2013 03:59 gonzaw wrote: So you got the Item #F instantly? You already have it? I chose the options according to the guidelines already posted by you. I followed them, so you know the answer to that question. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 19:25 GMT
#2808
On July 01 2013 04:15 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, Xfire, some of those don't make much sense, like this one: "I#A - N#A - N#B" You sure you got the encoding right? Here's another one for N#A and N#C which I think you might have gotten the other way round: N#A: N#C: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 04:09 austinmcc wrote: Did you bus kurumi N2? Did anyone bus Kurumi N2? Xfire is confirmed (by the role) to still have the Rubber Duck (bus driver), thus he couldn't have bussed anybody yet Kurumi might have bussed himself with someone though Yeah i messed it up. let me think about stuff again lol. did you get a role from Austin tonight? Apparently he doesn't like me | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 19:50 GMT
#2819
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:03 GMT
#2823
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:05 GMT
#2825
On July 01 2013 04:57 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, did you get the numbers/items right? I have a new proposal: N#B then I#F - N#A - N#E It might seem it won't work, but if there's some shit going on tonight (i.e, if it happens in a "worst case scenario" with something that helps scum), then this might help us tonight. What do you think? I'll double check the numbers now. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:14 GMT
#2832
On July 01 2013 05:09 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 05:03 Crossfire99 wrote: Ok. gonzaw don't tell me what you're going to do, since scum already know what ability they gave to you cause austin is almost confirmed scum now. So gonzaw, I'm actually thinking of usuing I#E tonight, your thoughts? That or I#F. I think those are the best options. Why exactly is austin "almost confirmed scum"? Hmm....I think I didn't calculate something correctly about the power of said items. Hmm, yeah I'm an idiot N#D then I#E - N#B - N#C could be the option we want then, don't you think? I'm not scum, you're not scum, BC's not scum. By process of elimination austin is scum. Maybe he's third party or something idk. But I'd consider him scum right now to be safe. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:34 GMT
#2849
On July 01 2013 05:17 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 05:14 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 01 2013 05:09 gonzaw wrote: On July 01 2013 05:03 Crossfire99 wrote: Ok. gonzaw don't tell me what you're going to do, since scum already know what ability they gave to you cause austin is almost confirmed scum now. So gonzaw, I'm actually thinking of usuing I#E tonight, your thoughts? That or I#F. I think those are the best options. Why exactly is austin "almost confirmed scum"? Hmm....I think I didn't calculate something correctly about the power of said items. Hmm, yeah I'm an idiot N#D then I#E - N#B - N#C could be the option we want then, don't you think? I'm not scum, you're not scum, BC's not scum. By process of elimination austin is scum. Maybe he's third party or something idk. But I'd consider him scum right now to be safe. You didn't consider him "confirmed scum" until he made a comment about giving me the ability or some shit like that. Why wasn't he "confirmed scum" before, but was after that? Did you read the above "possible" action? Do you agree or not? The way I see it there are 2 options with it we could do: N#D then I#E - N#B - N#C or N#B then I#E - N#B - N#C Some are safer and some are riskier. I don't really know if we could take a risk like that though Well I was waiting to see if he listened to you to give me an ability tonight. You're 100% confirmed town, so he should listen to you and trust you because you told him to give it to me. I double checked and my N# are 100% correct. I think we should do N#B then I#E - N#C - N#A or N#D then I#E - N#C - N#D | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:44 GMT
#2857
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:48 GMT
#2860
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 20:59 GMT
#2865
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:00 GMT
#2867
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:00 GMT
#2869
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:05 GMT
#2872
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#2878
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#2880
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:16 GMT
#2887
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:27 GMT
#2897
##Vote: kitaman27 Kitaman27: ## Vote: kitaman27 | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:29 GMT
#2898
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:33 GMT
#2904
On July 01 2013 06:31 gonzaw wrote: Sorry dude I got a little bit too excited I thought we would lose dude, please understand ;_; No big deals, dude. We still have got a chance this game, especially with the item I got *vroom* *vroom* | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:36 GMT
#2908
On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote: Dear mafia, Just a reminder: The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. It's impossible for me to be a serial killer. You're dead. There's nothing you can do to stop it. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:43 GMT
#2913
On July 01 2013 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 06:36 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote: Dear mafia, Just a reminder: The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. It's impossible for me to be a serial killer. You're dead. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Perhaps, but you guys owe me for the three shots Nope cause I'm town, but you played 100% for mafia this game (if you're actually a survivor). | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:45 GMT
#2915
On July 01 2013 06:43 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: On July 01 2013 06:36 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote: Dear mafia, Just a reminder: The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. It's impossible for me to be a serial killer. You're dead. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Perhaps, but you guys owe me for the three shots While I don't recommend trusting kita... HI THERE GONZAW ARE YOU SURE THAT CROSSFIRE IS NOT MAFIA? Yeah, cause I knew he was protecting me, so I could have killed him last night if I wanted to. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:47 GMT
#2919
On July 01 2013 06:45 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, austin just proved you are scum, stop waffling you got caught GG oh noes you caught me. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 21:49 GMT
#2921
On July 01 2013 06:46 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 06:45 gonzaw wrote: On July 01 2013 06:43 austinmcc wrote: On July 01 2013 06:40 kitaman27 wrote: On July 01 2013 06:36 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote: Dear mafia, Just a reminder: The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. It's impossible for me to be a serial killer. You're dead. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Perhaps, but you guys owe me for the three shots While I don't recommend trusting kita... HI THERE GONZAW ARE YOU SURE THAT CROSSFIRE IS NOT MAFIA? OMG I AM NOT YOU CONVINCED ME ##Unvote ##Vote: Xfire I WILL ASSUME YOU'RE JOKING AND NOT USING SERIOUS CAPS but...we can't even lynch him Why do you even want to lynch me today? Town is guaranteed to lose if kita lives today considering he's a regenerating dayvig. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 22:26 GMT
#2928
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 22:30 GMT
#2930
On July 01 2013 07:30 kitaman27 wrote: ##I object Ignore him, he's dead. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
June 30 2013 22:56 GMT
#2941
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 00:15 GMT
#3003
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 00:18 GMT
#3010
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#3011
On July 01 2013 09:18 gonzaw wrote: inb4 this is an elaborate scheme from scum kita and scum austin to get austin lynched first so scum kita can use his day vig on D5 to kill us Yeah, cause that's what this actually is you know. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#3012
On July 01 2013 09:17 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 09:15 Crossfire99 wrote: Wait, so we voting austin now and trusting that kita is 3rd party? Austin thought kita was already getting lynched because he thought you couldn't change votes so he claimed scum. He also thought you were NRA Member Bus Driver Veteran Medic Votethief at the same time You should have let him think that...now tonight will be even more WIFOM | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 01:22 GMT
#3018
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#3021
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 01:55 GMT
#3026
What doesn't make sense kita is this. 25 GeriptPerson was signed in when posted 06-27-2013 08:08 PM ET (US) btw, i was really hoping to become your star crossed lover. *tear* How did geript know that he had the ability to become your star crossed lover? If you're 3rd party, the only person that would know about your role is Zeph and he didn't tell geript. So explain that one? Also, how come you successfully call out that killing austin will gain us another lynch? this was before geript posted about me in the logs btw. I checked. So if you were 3rd party you shouldn't have known who the other scum were, right? On June 28 2013 23:26 kitaman27 wrote: If only I hadn't left my cotton candy bubblegum at the scene of the crime. Allegedly. I'm not playing for scum. Me getting lynched means scum wins and I lose. Suppose I had shot someone like austin. Then town has an extra lynch to spare and suddenly it's fine to kill off the survivor. As you said yourself, "gotta kill me before lylo". Well now killing me before lylo is no longer an option. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 02:13 GMT
#3028
On July 01 2013 11:04 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 10:55 Crossfire99 wrote: How did geript know that he had the ability to become your star crossed lover? If you're 3rd party, the only person that would know about your role is Zeph and he didn't tell geript. So explain that one? I'm not sure about that one. Maybe it was in deconduo's mason pm? Or perhaps a reference to Vastra + Strax in the show? Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 10:55 Crossfire99 wrote: Also, how come you successfully call out that killing austin will gain us another lynch? this was before geript posted about me in the logs btw. I checked. So if you were 3rd party you shouldn't have known who the other scum were, right? lol doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out austin is scum. I know Meapak and geript are scum. I knew they both refused to hammer austin day one. I knew austin hadn't made a single pro-town post all game. 1. Yeah, I'm pretty sure hosts wouldn't tell that in the mason pm. Actually mason me right now. We can test that. I call BS on that one. It has nothing to do with the show. If anything BC and geript would have been the star crossed lovers. 2. So you're telling me that you as a survivor, instead of shooting confirmed scum austin in your eyes with geript being lynched that same day thus knocking mafia down to 1 member according to what you think, you decided to shoot Dandel because you were afraid of getting lynched. If you actually shot austin, then we wouldn't have wanted to lynch you because that would be asinine to do as scum. You would have proved you were 3rd party and working with town in that case. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#3032
I can already break it down for you. There are 2 options. A risky option and a safe option. Risky: Lynch Austin. If kita is 3rd party survivor then we win. If he isn't and is mafia or 3rd party non-survivor, we lose. Safe: Lynch Kita. If kita is 3rd party, we still can win by correctly playing the WIFOM game tonight with Austin. Thoughts? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 03:07 GMT
#3035
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 03:19 GMT
#3038
You are Colonel Manton In order to trick the doctor you and your allies have kidnapped and disguised as some of his allies. In addition you have taken their powers. [Redacted] Your allies are: [Redacted] You have a [Redacted] You win with The Church Also, if kita is 3rd party survivor then this game is 12-3-1. Do you really think that is balanced? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 03:45 GMT
#3050
On July 01 2013 12:45 strongandbig wrote: this isn't real physics somebody just wrote a bunch of equations thanks for all the help this game. You've done real good. I'm glad you had time to point that out. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 03:48 GMT
#3051
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#3096
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 01 2013 21:01 GMT
#3097
1. Kita is a survivor. He doesn't care who wins as long as he survives until endgame and secures his victory condition which in this case is feeding on the TARDIS. 2. Kita is a SK. He needs to survive until endgame and secure his victory condition which is eliminate every other player in the game. 3. Kita is mafia or a traitor. He wins with mafia. I know which option seems more likely. I'll be back later to reread stuff. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:04 GMT
#3137
Kita, you posted all your convos with geript, right? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:05 GMT
#3139
On July 02 2013 11:14 kitaman27 wrote: Weeping Angels are completely pro-town. Not in Doctor Who Mafia lol. Dec and Sent know all about that. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:09 GMT
#3141
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:10 GMT
#3143
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:18 GMT
#3145
On July 02 2013 12:15 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2013 12:09 Crossfire99 wrote: So kita, riddle me this. You posted everything you ever said to geript, yet geript knows all about your star crossed lovers after 144 hours bit even though you never told him about it. You're lying. The only way geript could have known about your role is if he had prior knowledge, i.e. you told him or you're scum buddies. Right now I'm leaning toward scum buddies cause that makes the most sense. You still die today. I sent a pm to deconduo asking if my role informs him about the lover aspect when he is masoned. I 100% never mentioned the lover part of my role to him. If you are seriously getting stuck on a single detail like this, then I'm pretty much lost for words. The fact that you can possibly think that I am mafia blows my mind. You do realize that if austin and I are scum buddies that the chat logs he just posted would be fake. So I decided to incriminate myself in my own set of fake logs? That is seriously beyond belief. I know. Me being hung up on scum knowing something they couldn't have possibly known about unless you're scum isn't important at all... | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:27 GMT
#3148
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:32 GMT
#3154
On July 02 2013 12:29 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2013 12:27 Crossfire99 wrote: I won't put anything past them gonzaw. I'm here to figure out what happened this game, so I'm gonna consider all the options even if it is remote. Well, remember we have less than 24 hours (and I'll be home for just the last 3 hours before deadline or so). We need to figure this shit out fast if we won't both be active at the same time. I'll be here at least a few hours before the deadline. If not I'll have a post saying what I'm doing and will change my vote if i am doing so. I plan to spend so time reading now, but I'll be here for questions and stuff. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:34 GMT
#3157
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:35 GMT
#3158
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 03:46 GMT
#3161
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 05:05 GMT
#3164
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 05:14 GMT
#3165
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 06:00 GMT
#3166
First, austin is 100% scum, kita 100% 3rd party. The important part is what type of 3rd party, though. 2 options: survivor and SK (obviously excluding assassins and other 3rd party roles because we know that the 3rd party in this game has to survive until endgame) What makes these roles different besides their abilities? Mentality. Survivor just wants to win with whatever side he can. He doesn't care whether it is town or scum. This manifests by blending in during the beginning of the game when he is unsure about who is going to win, but then becoming more aligned with whatever side he thinks is winning later in the game. SK is similar but different. He needs to be the only survivor at the end and kill everyone. This means that he usually has some form of KP to help accomplish this. His mentality is similar to a survivor in that he wants to blend in early game when he is unsure about who is going to win, but is different in that once he sees one side starting to win, he wants to play against that side to keep the game close so he has an easier chance to achieve his win condition. What fits kita's actions most this game? I argue SK. He knew who was scum pretty early in this game and he has quoted the numerous posts where he was suspicious of austin and geript. What doesn't make sense is this. Meapak dies and pretty much confirms austin as scum for kita. Kita claims survivor because he got too trolly and obvious. Important note here is that he is spamming up the thread with nonsense and playing antitown even though he now knows who scum are and has KP that can deal with them. He know geript and austin are scum. Geript challenges him to mortal combat but kita has the TARDIS and can do whatever he wants with it. He could have used the TARDIS to hit austin because he knows geript's ability only protects at night. This would prove that he's 3rd party working with town by killing scum. Instead of this, he kills Dandel and tries to lynch sk8r instead of austin. (Even if he thinks sk8r is scum, he is more sure of austin at this point and has been pushing him previously.) This is actively working against town. Day 3 comes along and he attempts to work with mafia!? Why if he is just a survivor does he need to work with mafia? He can just dayvig austin thus proving he is 3rd party working with town. Geript then gets lynched and worst case scenario is that scum down to 1 member. Kita then skates along and never will get nk or lynched because it isn't in scum or town's best interest to do either. But no, Kita shoots Dandel again because Dandel wants Kita dead and has been pushing it relentlessly. I think that pretty much sums up why I think Kita is a SK, not a survivor. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 13:17 GMT
#3169
On July 02 2013 21:55 kitaman27 wrote: Well first off, I confirmed that geript learned about my lover role through the mason pm. Why I am not and cannot be a Serial Killer 1) The wording of the win conditions: The Alliance You win when all Anti-Town forces are dead. The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. The mafia team wins when all Town forces are dead. If you need to, confirm with the hosts that this is not a typo because this is really important. By definition, Serial Killers win when they are the only player remaining in the game. Suppose it is 2 mafia, 1 town, and 1 serial killer. Everyone lynches the town player and it is 2 mafia, 1 serial killer. There are no town remaining so the game ends in a mafia victory. This is a 100% conflict with the Serial Killer win condition of being the sole survivor. As I said earlier, I am a survivor who must feed to the TARDIS to achieve my win condition. I am not anti-town because I can win with either faction as long as I'm alive and have met my win condition. 2) I have no factional KP and I have no bulletproof vest. Serial killers always have factional kp. Yes, I have my role, but the mafia team still has their roles plus they get their factional kp on top of that. A bullet every other day is hardly enough. Roles can be roleblocked, while factional kp cannot, meaning that in a 1v1 situation with a roleblocker, a serial killer wouldn't even be able to win. Furthermore, I have no protection role, outside of the D2 TARDIS that I had to out myself as survivor to receive. The moment I'm hit with a town or mafia kp I lose the game. Suppose a serial killer were to shoot mafia early in the game. Are they supposed to just ask nicely that the mafia team does not shoot them in return? Suppose I was hit by that random vig from gonzaw...well serial killer, you played a perfect game, but unfortunately you got randomly hit and lose. Sorry! Without a factional kp and a bulletproof vest, a serial killer would have next to no chance of winning this game. 3) My role had a lover aspect. " If you and your maid survive for two straight cycles(day and night, or 144 real-life hours), you become lovers, which means that if one dies, the other suicides." The win condition of a Serial Killer is to be the sole remaining player. If the lover part of my role were to ever go into effect, I would suicide upon their death. That means that it would be impossible to win the game. As a survivor, my lover can still be around as long as the other faction is eliminated. While I technically could be a serial killer that has a lover role, but is forced not to ever have it activated if I want to win, that would be incredibly lame. 4) I claimed third party survivor in my first post, night one, and day two. I claimed third party from the start of the game and pointed out my breadcrumb after requesting the TARDIS. A serial killer operates from the shadows and wants to keep his identity hidden for as long as possible. Suppose we lynched austin D2, rather than Sk8r. The mafia team is eliminated and who do you think the town is going to go after next? Obviously the claimed third party player. There was no reason for me to claim for the TARDIS as a serial killer, but it would be completely reasonable for the Survivor who needs to feed on the TARDIS to claim for the TARDIS. Show nested quote + On July 02 2013 15:00 Crossfire99 wrote: What fits kita's actions most this game? I argue SK. He knew who was scum pretty early in this game and he has quoted the numerous posts where he was suspicious of austin and geript. What doesn't make sense is this. Meapak dies and pretty much confirms austin as scum for kita. Kita claims survivor because he got too trolly and obvious. Important note here is that he is spamming up the thread with nonsense and playing antitown even though he now knows who scum are and has KP that can deal with them. He know geript and austin are scum. Geript challenges him to mortal combat but kita has the TARDIS and can do whatever he wants with it. He could have used the TARDIS to hit austin because he knows geript's ability only protects at night. This would prove that he's 3rd party working with town by killing scum. Now put yourself in my shoes. Geript tries to kill me, I bus the shot to austin instead. I've shared my suspicion of geript, austin, and Meapak. The mafia have a strong suspicoin that I have a day vig as well. Guess who is getting shot at night? That would be survivor suicide and make it essentially impossible to to ever win with mafia. I suppose I could have asked for protection from a potential town role, but what townie is going to protect the claimed third party over someone like BC, gonzaw, or kurumi the inventor. Show nested quote + On July 02 2013 15:00 Crossfire99 wrote: Day 3 comes along and he attempts to work with mafia!? Why if he is just a survivor does he need to work with mafia? He can just dayvig austin thus proving he is 3rd party working with town. Like I explained before, mafia almost certainly had the TARDIS. geript had his protection ability so austin would be the only player that makes sense as being protected. I shoot austin, nothing happens, geript gets lynched, I get lynched the next cycle and austin wins. Show nested quote + On July 02 2013 15:00 Crossfire99 wrote: Kita then skates along and never will get nk or lynched because it isn't in scum or town's best interest to do either. I don't understand why this doesn't point to survivor. This points 100% to survivor. What more does a survivor want than to never be night killed and never be lynched? It means he wins. I killed Dandel because he was a threat to myself. What survivor wants to keep around a player that wants to kill him? 1. I'll ask the hosts about this. 2. Serial Killers don't always have factional KP. iGrok made a 1-shot bulletproof SK. I don't know if you're bulletproof or not. Maybe getting the TARDIS made you a vet because you fed on its energy. Plus isn't a dayvig every other day good enough? Dayvigs can rarely be protected against making it stronger than a night shot. 3. You have a dayvig to kill your partner off. You also don't have to use your mason abilities. 4. You breadcrumb survivor in case you ever need to claim something. You ask for the TARDIS because it powers you up in some way. So scum shoot a "survivor" because they think you are "confirmed." That makes no sense. If you are a survivor, they should want to keep you alive because you can still win with them. You don't have to shoot anyone if you are truly a survivor you know. I worded this bad Kita then skates along and never will get nk or lynched because it isn't in scum or town's best interest to do either. I should have said Kita could then skate along and never will get nk or lynched because it isn't in scum or town's best interest to do either. You didn't do that because you actively worked against town. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 15:43 GMT
#3175
Alignments: The Alliance You win when all Anti-Town forces are dead. The Church You win when all Town forces are dead. ????? You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition. The things to notice about the win conditions are:
What all of this says to me is that there are 2 options for 3rd party this game:
I've already described your play this game. It doesn't match up with a neutral survivor mentality. What it does match up with is an anti-town survivor that can win with mafia. For all I know you could be a "traitor" in the sense that you work with mafia and can't communicate, but you can actually win by yourself if all mafia are dead and you eliminate town. It would make sense for you to be a pro-mafia 3rd party and use your mason to communicate with scum like you did. You readily admitted that you were trying to win with scum and become lovers with geript. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 15:44 GMT
#3176
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 17:36 GMT
#3181
I asked about the win conditions and they are worded that way for a reason. An anti-town 3rd party role is possible. Yeah sure an anti-town survivor is weird and I haven't really heard of it before, but anything is possible. You bring up no factional kp, but you do have "factional" kp. You are an every other day anonymous day vig. That is definitely better than a night kp of the same frequency. You mention you aren't bulletproof or anything of that nature and I believe you about that before you had the TARDIS, but after you gained possession of the TARDIS, it was drained. To me this means you did something to it. For all I know you are now bulletproof or a vet or something. (By "traitor" I meant working with mafia, but has to survive to win.) I think I'll just wait till gonzaw comes back and see what he thinks about this. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#3195
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 18:47 GMT
#3198
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 18:49 GMT
#3200
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:05 GMT
#3208
On July 03 2013 03:50 gonzaw wrote: The fact he shot solstice as soon as he claimed Doctor (or WOS claimed for him) which almost single-handily fucked scum, instead of like shooting me or BC or Acro, shows that he's not bullshitting with the TARDIS claim. If he was traitor, fucking shoot me and let the lynch on solstice go through If he was SK....then again shoot me or Acro, let town go crazy and shit, maybe misslynch more dudes, etc. Instead he shot A GUY THAT WAS GETTING LYNCHED That proves to me he is not SK. Hell that could prove to me he's not traitor, since he wouldn't know the scumteam's plans by then (if he did he wouldn't have shot solstice to out the whole scumteam, scum would tell him "ehmm dude, why don't you shoot gonzaw or Acro or Xata and leave this D1 misslynch be, okay? Don't wanna get austin lynched". I mean, unless the TARDIS is a super powerful shit that gives him 100 KP and makes him bulletproof or some shit I doubt kita would do that (if he DOESNT win with town). And if it does....then where is his 100 KP and bulletproof and shit? Gonzaw, I don't think he is a SK. I think he is an anti-town 3rd party. There is also something in role pm mentioning the TARDIS. I agree that's why he shot Solstice. But I disagree saying why would he do that if it hurt mafia. It is day 1, he doesn't know who scum were day 1. In fact he figured it out because of what he did with his shot. Look at what he did from Day 2 on and tell me how that comes from a neutral survivor and not scum-aligned survivor. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:19 GMT
#3214
On July 03 2013 04:10 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 04:05 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 03:50 gonzaw wrote: The fact he shot solstice as soon as he claimed Doctor (or WOS claimed for him) which almost single-handily fucked scum, instead of like shooting me or BC or Acro, shows that he's not bullshitting with the TARDIS claim. If he was traitor, fucking shoot me and let the lynch on solstice go through If he was SK....then again shoot me or Acro, let town go crazy and shit, maybe misslynch more dudes, etc. Instead he shot A GUY THAT WAS GETTING LYNCHED That proves to me he is not SK. Hell that could prove to me he's not traitor, since he wouldn't know the scumteam's plans by then (if he did he wouldn't have shot solstice to out the whole scumteam, scum would tell him "ehmm dude, why don't you shoot gonzaw or Acro or Xata and leave this D1 misslynch be, okay? Don't wanna get austin lynched". I mean, unless the TARDIS is a super powerful shit that gives him 100 KP and makes him bulletproof or some shit I doubt kita would do that (if he DOESNT win with town). And if it does....then where is his 100 KP and bulletproof and shit? Gonzaw, I don't think he is a SK. I think he is an anti-town 3rd party. There is also something in role pm mentioning the TARDIS. I agree that's why he shot Solstice. But I disagree saying why would he do that if it hurt mafia. It is day 1, he doesn't know who scum were day 1. In fact he figured it out because of what he did with his shot. Look at what he did from Day 2 on and tell me how that comes from a neutral survivor and not scum-aligned survivor. An anti-town 3rd party that you are describing based on the win conditions listed in the OP has never existed in team liquid mafia history. It doesn't make sense from a game perspective and it doesn't make sense from a balance perspective. You're confusing what a neutral survivor actually means. A neutral survivor isn't neutral to both factions. He is going to pick one faction to win with and one faction to back stab. He win condition is surviving. I had an opportunity at 2v1v1 and I took it. It was an anti-town action to take a join mafia win, but a survivor is not an anti-town alignment and I can still win with town. I'm not saying neutral survivor doesnt choose a side. I'm saying he chooses the side he is most likely to win with. In this case it was town since bc shot scum day 2 and you could have too, but you decided to actively hinder town at every opportunity even though it made no sense to do so. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:19 GMT
#3215
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:32 GMT
#3226
On July 03 2013 04:30 gonzaw wrote: Didn't Kurumi claim the RB on BC or something? Anyways that makes no sense since Zepphird didn't say anything about the role he created having a day-RB. Maybe hosts derped again and made it so the TARDIS refunds bullets without telling anybody else about it No, kurumi made him an inventor. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:37 GMT
#3231
He knew who was scum pretty early in this game and he has quoted the numerous posts where he was suspicious of austin and geript. What doesn't make sense is this. Meapak dies and pretty much confirms austin as scum for kita. Kita claims survivor because he got too trolly and obvious. Important note here is that he is spamming up the thread with nonsense and playing antitown even though he now knows who scum are and has KP that can deal with them. He know geript and austin are scum. Geript challenges him to mortal combat but kita has the TARDIS and can do whatever he wants with it. He could have used the TARDIS to hit austin because he knows geript's ability only protects at night. This would prove that he's 3rd party working with town by killing scum. Instead of this, he kills Dandel and tries to lynch sk8r instead of austin. (Even if he thinks sk8r is scum, he is more sure of austin at this point and has been pushing him previously.) This is actively working against town. Day 3 comes along and he attempts to work with mafia!? Why if he is just a survivor does he need to work with mafia? He can just dayvig austin thus proving he is 3rd party working with town. Geript then gets lynched and worst case scenario is that scum down to 1 member. Kita then skates along and never will get nk or lynched because it isn't in scum or town's best interest to do either. But no, Kita shoots Dandel again because Dandel wants Kita dead and has been pushing it relentlessly. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:38 GMT
#3233
On July 03 2013 04:34 kitaman27 wrote: Also, does your 75% calculation take into account that mafia almost certainly have a bus driver or self protect in their pocket? We've established that I'm not mafia. Therefore, mafia would have no idea what I did to the TARDIS. When I asked if the TARDIS was a worry with my day shot, they flat out replied no. You don't speak in certainty like that unless you know it's not an issue. Yes, and I even might put my chances at 80%. The TARDIS is accounted for in my plans for tonight. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 19:42 GMT
#3236
On July 03 2013 04:39 gonzaw wrote: Xfire, is there any time limit to using the TARDIS if someone shoots you? Like, if someone day-vigs you 1 second into the day phase, what is the "deadline" in which you have to use the TARDIS, and if you do not you die to that shot? If you get day-vigged 1 second into the day phase, can you use the TARDIS to protect yourself 1 second before deadline? Or should it be instant? I don't know. I'd ask sk8r and kita since they both did it and I never intended for the TARDIS to be used during the day lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:03 GMT
#3249
On June 26 2013 02:24 kitaman27 wrote: Anyways, I'm a Survivor. Breadcrumbed it with my first post from everyone's favorite 80's hit single: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Can't_Hold_Back My win condition is to obtain the TARDIS and survive until endgame. I managed to meet the first condition on night one so now I'm just along for the ride. I also baited the medic role that I created to protect me last night because I didn't want to claim until after the TARDIS was passed to me and getting picked off n1 would have been lame. I don't even have to hold the TARDIS at endgame, so I'll pass it off tonight as a sign of good faith. I can win with either faction (so don't shoot me plz mafia), but based on how mafia likely started that ugly bandwagon on me to save austin, I'll offer town my services free of charge I'm open to any investigative checks if you feel like wasting your night action, but it will return third party. For the conspiracy theorists that think I planned this from the start, go away. Please note, that if I post in text that is red or green, the message is intended only for the corresponding faction. If you are not part of this faction, I trust you to ignore it. For example, You guys should totally shoot BC instead of myself tonight. Or I think mafia is going to shoot BC. Just a hunch. Good Luck! On June 26 2013 05:58 kitaman27 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:38 geript wrote: meh I wanna do shit ##Mortal kombat Kita and shit bongo bongo. This creates a random vote thing from 3 ppl. Whoever has more votes gets killed and stuff. That's not the correct trigger phrase, but are you seriously using your day-vig on the claimed survivor? Not only is that suboptimal play, its just cruel to me, making it essentially the only way I can't win the game now that I have the TARDIS. Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote: (1) kita is super worried about NKs, despite their being players who look far more townie / are doing more pro-town stuff with their activity. He's been around a long time, but so have other players this game, so it's not a case of him just getting popped for being veteran-y Oh really? I shouldn't have to worry about night kills even if I'm only half active? That's exactly when the mafia team goes after you when there are no medics. Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote: (2) kita was going to wait and claim N2 because ... he didn't want to be NKed. He could have claimed immediately if that's his only concern. Again, according to him, once he got the TARDIS, all he does is try to survive. No reason to wait 48 hours before saying "Oh hey guys, I'm a survivor, mafia please don't kill me." lol I was breadcrumbing survivor all day. "victory is at hand" --> in reference to receiving the tardis "Victory only applies to town, or does it, I'll have to get back to you?" --> in reference to being able to win with both factions It's not like I can ask for the TARDIS with my super plan and hope the thread forgets about it for 5 cycles. I was obviously planning to claim. Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote: (3) I still actually really dislike the not vigging snb comments. They don't jive AT ALL with what I understand to be conventional wisdom held by respected players. Show me a respected player that disagrees with my assessment that scummy players should be vig shot. Cmon now, you're just terrible. Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote: Hey hey, again, important. Kita as 3P survivor has no reason to care whether or not snb gets shot. No matter who is vigged, kita is 1 person closer to fulfilling his wincon. But he picks a fight over that, like, seriously responds to your comments. His response there is no a 3P survivor response. It's the response of someone concerned with what happens to other players. Just because I'm 3P doesn't mean that I'm completely useless. I'm not Palmar after all. I still share town's best interest at heart. Show nested quote + On June 26 2013 05:43 austinmcc wrote: He's not a survivor. He didn't claim the moment he could have, for a bad reason. He expressed interest in things that a survivor wouldn't care about. So I breadcrumbed survivor in my first post, came up with an elaborate story about needing the TARDIS to obtain the 1 night medic protection, and then claimed for giggles? BC made it completely clear that he thought I was siding with thread sentiment on day one. That completely matches the actions of a survivor. You on the other hand are scum. On June 26 2013 22:45 kitaman27 wrote: I just checked and apparently the TARDIS may be used during the day. It wasn't quite clear based on the description. I can confirm what Sk8r said is true about the fact that mafia cannot activate the device twice in one cycle without the passing being randomized. I'll name the player that I will be passing the device to before the deadline, to prove that both Sk8r and myself are not scum buddies. If he flips scum like I predict, maybe we can finally end the survivor witch hunt. In other fantastic news, Sk8r's clarification has probably saved my life as I can now activate the self-protect from the TARDIS to save myself from geript's kp. I probably shouldn't be telling town this as it opens me up to a risk lynch, but hopefully you guys will take the fact that I'm not holding onto the TARDIS myself as a sign of good faith, considering how powerful it's confirmation abilities are. For the people that are saying that I need to be lynched before LYLO, I don't really understand why. You mentioned that you want to avoid a kingmaker scenario, but if you're going to lynch me, it essentially brings you one cycle closer to LYLO since it means that you can't use it on a scum lynch, the mafia team get an extra cycle of night hits, and mafia vote ratio improves. Even if we reach kingmaker, I'll still vote with town. Looking back through TL's history of survivors, nearly all of them side with town. What is the point of playing this game if there is no scum hunting objectives. It's not like I've even played anti-town this game. I've shared my suspicion of Meapak 3 different times. I've shared my suspicion of Sk8r at least five times. I still plan to share my reads on the remaining half of the players when I have time, but it seems silly that people are expecting the survivor to do all the work, while the rest of town sits around and does nothing. Why exactly is a pro-town third party role leading the lynch anyways? You guys do realize that the mafia kp is likely on the line this cycle? People are saying that this could be some elaborate plan to survive to endgame as scum, but is that really the scenario that is most likely? Am I really the player most likely to flip scum remaining in this game? That's nonsense. I mean this last quote is directly before you decide to kill dandel with the bus. You assured us that you would only play for town to prove your worth, but then you do the complete opposite all game. Why the complete shift? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:10 GMT
#3253
On July 03 2013 05:04 gonzaw wrote: I think the fact I don't want this game to go for 72 more hours may have a slight (slight mind you) influence in me wanting to lynch austin I mean if you really want to lynch austin. Sure. I honestly don't understand the way kita has been playing at all if he was just a survivor. But if you seem convinced that he is just a regular old survivor, we can lynch austin. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#3258
On July 03 2013 05:12 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, first something else Xfire: Do I have the knowledge about your role or items, etc to know why we'll win 80% tonight if we lynch austin? Or is it something only you know? At least I want to try and know why. If I know why I may feel better lynching kita instead if it's the safest option You know everything I do. It isn't obvious, though and requires some thought. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#3259
On July 03 2013 05:13 kitaman27 wrote: Keep in mind that coming up with a night action win percentage is impossible because you don't actually know austin's role. That's why it is 80% and not 100% lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:17 GMT
#3262
On July 03 2013 05:16 kitaman27 wrote: Well I know a way to improve those odds -_- Yeah, yeah. Everything is easier when you know your own alignment. I get it. If you truly are a regular old survivor, I will never understand your actions this game. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:25 GMT
#3270
On July 03 2013 05:21 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 05:20 austinmcc wrote: On July 03 2013 05:18 gonzaw wrote: So if austin is telling the truth about his role we win 100%? I find this hard to believe lol Don't do this to me. I spent hours trying to figure out who to shoot last night. Now I'm gonna have to try and figure out this nonsense. I was THIS close of protecting BC last night lol Like...it was 5:59 and I had the mouse cursor over the "Send" button of the already-made "##Protect: BC" PM. You lucky you Do you know what I really wished I had done? 10 minutes before the lynch yesterday, I changed my austin role vote to myself. I don't know if you would have done it or not, but if I correctly understood austin's role (lol), I would have pushed hard for you to choose me as well. You can see where I would have gone with this lol. Austin was obsessing over it last night. He would have been forced to give me a role when I was the PGO/NRA member lol. And then this day never would have happened... | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:31 GMT
#3276
On July 03 2013 05:28 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 05:25 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 05:21 gonzaw wrote: On July 03 2013 05:20 austinmcc wrote: On July 03 2013 05:18 gonzaw wrote: So if austin is telling the truth about his role we win 100%? I find this hard to believe lol Don't do this to me. I spent hours trying to figure out who to shoot last night. Now I'm gonna have to try and figure out this nonsense. I was THIS close of protecting BC last night lol Like...it was 5:59 and I had the mouse cursor over the "Send" button of the already-made "##Protect: BC" PM. You lucky you Do you know what I really wished I had done? 10 minutes before the lynch yesterday, I changed my austin role vote to myself. I don't know if you would have done it or not, but if I correctly understood austin's role (lol), I would have pushed hard for you to choose me as well. You can see where I would have gone with this lol. Austin was obsessing over it last night. He would have been forced to give me a role when I was the PGO/NRA member lol. And then this day never would have happened... Whether you or I get the medic is irrelevant. I thought that was made clear by me telling you who I was protecting in the thread and you acknowledging it Also Xfire, damn shame you didn't choose option 2 back on N1. You would have gotten a DT check. The story made it clear you were outnumbered and you just came out of the hospital. Why did you choose to stay and fight? Cause I'm River Song, I always stay and fight. That was literally my reasoning for my choice lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:32 GMT
#3281
On July 03 2013 05:28 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 05:25 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 05:21 gonzaw wrote: On July 03 2013 05:20 austinmcc wrote: On July 03 2013 05:18 gonzaw wrote: So if austin is telling the truth about his role we win 100%? I find this hard to believe lol Don't do this to me. I spent hours trying to figure out who to shoot last night. Now I'm gonna have to try and figure out this nonsense. I was THIS close of protecting BC last night lol Like...it was 5:59 and I had the mouse cursor over the "Send" button of the already-made "##Protect: BC" PM. You lucky you Do you know what I really wished I had done? 10 minutes before the lynch yesterday, I changed my austin role vote to myself. I don't know if you would have done it or not, but if I correctly understood austin's role (lol), I would have pushed hard for you to choose me as well. You can see where I would have gone with this lol. Austin was obsessing over it last night. He would have been forced to give me a role when I was the PGO/NRA member lol. And then this day never would have happened... Whether you or I get the medic is irrelevant. I thought that was made clear by me telling you who I was protecting in the thread and you acknowledging it Also Xfire, damn shame you didn't choose option 2 back on N1. You would have gotten a DT check. The story made it clear you were outnumbered and you just came out of the hospital. Why did you choose to stay and fight? You don't understand. If austin was forced to visit me to give me a role and I activated my tazer... | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:56 GMT
#3296
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:56 GMT
#3297
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:59 GMT
#3301
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 20:59 GMT
#3304
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:01 GMT
#3311
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:01 GMT
#3315
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:03 GMT
#3319
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:04 GMT
#3324
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:04 GMT
#3325
On July 03 2013 06:04 gonzaw wrote: Well Xfire, why did you show up so late? >_> i was here, i was waiting for you to switch lol? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:07 GMT
#3326
On July 03 2013 05:56 Crossfire99 wrote: i'm here On July 03 2013 05:56 Crossfire99 wrote: what we doing? On July 03 2013 05:59 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw, we got 2 minutes. What are we doing lol? On July 03 2013 05:59 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw? On July 03 2013 06:01 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw you voting austin? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:08 GMT
#3330
On July 03 2013 06:07 gonzaw wrote: But you came here like 3 minutes before the lynch lol I was here sine like 20-30 minutes before it I wouldn't risk 100% losing this game by switching at :59, and you not seeing the vote so you keep your vote on kita while I have it on austin! (i.e NL) Yeah, sorry I got pulled away and I couldn't help it lol. There was nothing i could do about that. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:09 GMT
#3332
On July 03 2013 06:08 kitaman27 wrote: I'm shooting both of you at any possible opportunity in any future game from now on. It's your prerogative. I won't hold it against you. It's just a game. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:09 GMT
#3335
On July 03 2013 06:08 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:08 kitaman27 wrote: I'm shooting both of you at any possible opportunity in any future game from now on. Bwahahahahahahahaha, you're dead. I mean... So what is your guess acro. What is kita? A true survivor? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#3338
not 3rd party anti-town my ass. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:12 GMT
#3341
Feeding on the time energy from the TARDIS would make you immensely powerful. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#3344
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#3347
On July 03 2013 06:12 deconduo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:11 gonzaw wrote: Can we make nights 1 hour long and days 1 hour long as well? I kind of want this game to end today As per the nightpost, cycles will last as long as it takes for people to send in actions or vote. This can be 1 minute cycles if you guys hurry :D I'm down for this. I just want to know when austin gets here, so we can finish this. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#3349
On July 03 2013 06:13 gonzaw wrote: Like...you guys realize what would have happened had we lynched austin, and we lost? Like......I dont' know what I would have done......really. I might have done crazy shit, I might have resigned from mafia, go live at the Alps and shit in a bottle Gonzaw, I would have laughed and then cried myself to sleep tonight. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#3358
On July 03 2013 06:15 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:14 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 06:13 gonzaw wrote: Like...you guys realize what would have happened had we lynched austin, and we lost? Like......I dont' know what I would have done......really. I might have done crazy shit, I might have resigned from mafia, go live at the Alps and shit in a bottle Gonzaw, I would have laughed and then cried myself to sleep tonight. I'm putting a lot of effort to not break down right now based on the shit that had already happened before I would most likely disappear for a while from the mafia scene, and I mean it (not that it would be too hard to do, with being busy with uni/work and shit) I'm just glad I'm not going crazy. I keep on telling myself that I will base all my decisions based on people's play and not host stuff or role stuff. I mean after WLIIA, Parallel World, and now this game, sheesh. Honestly, by the time that lynched rolled around, I just didn't care who I voted for. I had enough of arguing with you and kita. I felt like a reverse kingmaker and just had to decide who to make lose. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:26 GMT
#3365
On July 03 2013 06:22 gonzaw wrote: Like seriously, austin if town wins this game you should be town MVP, had you not come up with that shit we would have lost so fucking bad (although well...I guess Xfire was still on kita's tail I suppose) Yeah, I'd give austin props for persevering and not giving up even though he was a confirmed scummer. And yes I did do a little though you were wearing me down and basically had me not caring at the end. I mean I really couldn't trust what either kita or austin said. Ugh that was difficult. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:26 GMT
#3366
On July 03 2013 06:26 gonzaw wrote: come on austin I don't have all day well, I could strive for the 40 page filter I guess That's what I thought you were doing lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:31 GMT
#3371
On July 03 2013 06:29 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:29 gonzaw wrote: once postgame happens i won't discuss anything about this game I will discuss shit about roles, inventions and stuff thoug (i.e the only time I had fun this game), but not this game...not ever Well this seems kind of nihilist. i will discuss about the game most likely probably not today though (if the game ends today) lol. I actually want to nominate this game for so many mafia awards right now. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:33 GMT
#3374
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:33 GMT
#3375
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:34 GMT
#3378
On July 03 2013 06:32 deconduo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:25 gonzaw wrote: kita role: Feeding on the time energy from the TARDIS would make you immensely powerful Yeah...so how about telling us how powerful he would have gotten? Or maybe even kita didn't know that shit? Also see austin kita didn't RB BC, you better tell geript to check his contact lenses next time He was bulletproof after feeding on the TARDIS, so yeah you guys would have 100% lost. I would have ended the game right there :D Could he have won with scum? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:42 GMT
#3381
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#3384
On July 03 2013 06:44 austinmcc wrote: FIRST: I TOLD YOU GUYS NOT TO FRIGGIN' LYNCH ME ALL GAME. FOUR DAYS AND YOU GO AND TRY TO LYNCH ME ON THREE OF EM. NOT COOL SECOND: Sorry Kita. I didn't think I could get the joint win if you were anti-town, had to play it this way. THIRD: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:18 gonzaw wrote: Well, come on Xfire, flip a coin between Vetting yourself and Medic'ing me and give it to hosts Austin you flip the coin as well so we can get this over with WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DO THIS? I'm scum. I play the mindgames. You're town. You don't play mindgames. I need a moment to figure all this out and I have family stuff. If you guys hadn't gone talking about 80% and whatever, I would have been able to choose right away. I need a moment I think, because I put so much work into yesterday and I don't want to throw it away on something obvious that I'm missing Dude, we were right to lynch you. You were scum. The only days we shouldn't have lynched you were when we lynched geript and kita lol. I got time, but not much time, so don't take too long. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:48 GMT
#3385
On July 03 2013 06:46 austinmcc wrote: Hey, what power did you use last night? Bus driver right? On gonzaw <--> kita? If you'd been NRA, gonzaw would be dead. If you'd been medic/vet, those wouldn't be options today, and you'd have killed me and friggin lost the game. Don't worry about it | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:50 GMT
#3388
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:52 GMT
#3390
On July 03 2013 06:50 austinmcc wrote: btw, I dunno if you asked to find out or not, but factional KP isn't delivered. You guys voted for kita, so I will let you in on that little tidbit. If you NRA tonight, you lose, because no single person visits and delivers the KP. I know I'm mafia, but you can ask hosts to confirm this. Cool, how bout this, I'll tell you something if you get the mods to confirm that no one has the TARDIS? Gonzaw do you have the TARDIS? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:54 GMT
#3396
Actually Austin, what's the deal with these bears you gotta remove? | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:55 GMT
#3399
On July 03 2013 06:54 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 06:50 Crossfire99 wrote: gonzaw, don't tell austin anything lol. I'm saying this just in case you decide to reveal what you know to get to 40 pages of filter. actually in the state im in right now i am not sure i WONT slip something lollololol well, let's put it this way. If you do say something you aren't supposed to say we know who to blame this loss on lol | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:57 GMT
#3402
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#3406
On July 03 2013 06:57 gonzaw wrote: i already sent mine as well. I visited austin. that was the plan, right xfire? yeah sure. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:05 GMT
#3411
On July 03 2013 07:04 austinmcc wrote: Hold on hold on. I'm working on this. Can't believe you made me think he was all of those things, and then told me he could only use one at a time. You want a hint austin? I'll give it you cause I can't be here forever lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:09 GMT
#3420
On July 03 2013 07:06 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 07:05 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 07:04 austinmcc wrote: Hold on hold on. I'm working on this. Can't believe you made me think he was all of those things, and then told me he could only use one at a time. You want a hint austin? I'll give it you cause I can't be here forever lol. you're more than welcome to gimme a hint I won't trust it, but hint away. Eh, nevermind. After typing that out, that would not have been a good idea to tell you lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:10 GMT
#3423
On July 03 2013 07:09 austinmcc wrote: I hate you guys so much right now. Why don't you let mafia win? Because we're town. Seriously though, I need to go in like 20 minutes, so I wanna hurry this up. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:11 GMT
#3428
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:13 GMT
#3431
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:15 GMT
#3437
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:16 GMT
#3438
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:21 GMT
#3441
On July 03 2013 07:17 austinmcc wrote: Night actions. Unless you've got a vote steal, our days are just no lynches. Can we end the day with a NL? You sure NRA doesn't kill you. I don't believe you now cause I don't know how I can kill you otherwise cause I got no kp lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:22 GMT
#3444
On July 03 2013 07:21 deconduo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 07:14 deconduo wrote: It is now Day 5. No voting today, instead send in actions as if it was night. Oops didn't read that. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:25 GMT
#3446
On July 03 2013 07:23 austinmcc wrote: Even if NRA worked, I don't think it would matter. But I have to finish off the game to meet extra win cons, and need to actually kill you rather than have it end 1-1 before I've de-beared you. Oh, so just explain this debear stuff cause I'm confused and apparently dead. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:28 GMT
#3448
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:30 GMT
#3451
On July 03 2013 07:29 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 07:28 Crossfire99 wrote: Well that's a lame way to end the game. GG. Gotta go for the de-bearing. It's lame, but good lord was I afraid of NRA shennanies. Just shoot me now and and end this game. It's too depressing now...ugh... | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:31 GMT
#3452
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:34 GMT
#3454
On July 03 2013 07:32 austinmcc wrote: It should be coming. I didn't mean for the delayed shot to mess things up, was just worried you had a way to still win like being able to reflect a shot or...NRA oddly working, or whatever. it actually probably my roles fault lol. There are probably like 20 pages that constitute the role's story. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:35 GMT
#3456
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:46 GMT
#3465
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#3469
On July 03 2013 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So town what did we learn. IF YOU HAVE ALMOST CONFIRMED SCUM, YOU KILL CONFIRMED SCUM. Scum team was outed d2, I've never seen a town blow a game so epically as this. No need to rub it in. And almost confirmed scum is not confirmed scum lol. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#3470
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 22:56 GMT
#3472
Anyways GG. Still had a lot of fun. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 02 2013 23:19 GMT
#3483
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 01:50 GMT
#3543
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 02:00 GMT
#3545
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 02:06 GMT
#3546
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 02:15 GMT
#3550
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 03:42 GMT
#3566
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 03:54 GMT
#3569
On July 03 2013 12:48 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + I targeted you with it and shot gonzaw. I figured you'd medic or vet, and if you were vet he'd die, if you were medic I would have you medic me and he'd die. Since you used vet (i think that's what obs said), I didn't get to retarget anything, it just fizzled.On July 03 2013 12:42 Crossfire99 wrote: Don't worry about it austin. What did you actually do with your re-targeting ability? I was, again, paranoid that you'd use NRA member. I could have died if you went that route over protection, which is one reason I made sure to say that KP wasn't targeted. If it was just KP, NRA member wouldn't have mattered. But oddly enough, I could have died from the non-KP action I took. I was debating about that but I did the safer option which was to ensure that I survived to the next day so I could use my 1 way redirection ability which diverted all actions used onto me onto someone else I choose. Too bad you were too cautious after all the craziness gonzaw revealed about my role and delayed your shot 27 days...I'm pretty sure we could have worked out our differences peacefully in that time. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:04 GMT
#3571
On July 03 2013 13:00 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + I had a lot of help in getting there, but glad we could win it.On July 03 2013 12:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: austin thank you for logging me my first, yes my first in almost 3 years of play, victory as scum. You can consider my effort payback for this little incident: Show nested quote + On April 10 2013 11:26 Keirathi wrote: Anyways: I don't expect to live through the night tonight, and assassin is already dead. I am a cop. I checked austin last night, and he is town. I was also given the Lie Detector invention. I will use it when it's appropriate and let everyone know the results. Show nested quote + cough coughOn April 10 2013 11:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Guys I'm gonna make this real easy for everyone. Please listen to this while reading the following post: ##Nuke: austinmc To everyone who has called me scum: hahahahaha | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:05 GMT
#3573
On July 01 2013 06:27 Crossfire99 wrote: Kita, this is what I'm doing to you right now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oX4ZVSkPK0#t=00m59s ##Vote: kitaman27 Kitaman27: ## Vote: kitaman27 | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:07 GMT
#3574
On July 03 2013 13:04 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 12:54 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 12:48 austinmcc wrote: On July 03 2013 12:42 Crossfire99 wrote: I targeted you with it and shot gonzaw. I figured you'd medic or vet, and if you were vet he'd die, if you were medic I would have you medic me and he'd die. Since you used vet (i think that's what obs said), I didn't get to retarget anything, it just fizzled.Don't worry about it austin. What did you actually do with your re-targeting ability? I was, again, paranoid that you'd use NRA member. I could have died if you went that route over protection, which is one reason I made sure to say that KP wasn't targeted. If it was just KP, NRA member wouldn't have mattered. But oddly enough, I could have died from the non-KP action I took. I was debating about that but I did the safer option which was to ensure that I survived to the next day so I could use my 1 way redirection ability which diverted all actions used onto me onto someone else I choose. Too bad you were too cautious after all the craziness gonzaw revealed about my role and delayed your shot 27 days...I'm pretty sure we could have worked out our differences peacefully in that time. For once, paranoia finally pays off. I honestly thought you were bluffing with the big win percentage chance, but now I absolutely see it. I think that if I wasn't still super paranoid about NRA Member (which seriously doesn't do anything against factional KP), I might have gone for it. But as long as we were one on one and couldn't lynch each other, I didn't see a reason not to choose random nights to fire at you. Gonzaw telling me items were one-use was a big help, although...I assume that would have come out at some point during the day, when we started talking percentages. I was really hoping gonzaw wouldn't say anything, but I think he just felt relieved to finally know 100% that you were scum and figured that what he said wouldn't hurt. Obviously it came back to bite us but that is the least of the issues that town had with this game. Honestly, if I was stuck with like 3 people and I thought all of them were anti-town I'd probably go stir crazy too. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:15 GMT
#3577
On July 03 2013 13:10 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 13:04 austinmcc wrote: I honestly thought you were bluffing with the big win percentage chance, but now I absolutely see it. I think that if I wasn't still super paranoid about NRA Member (which seriously doesn't do anything against factional KP), I might have gone for it. But as long as we were one on one and couldn't lynch each other, I didn't see a reason not to choose random nights to fire at you. Gonzaw telling me items were one-use was a big help, although...I assume that would have come out at some point during the day, when we started talking percentages. Before D4 ended I asked deconduo if he allowed scum to just no-NK ad nauseaum in a 1v1 situation like this. I felt it was kind of....unfair I guess. He said he'd think about it but never answered ;_; Oh yeah I forgot I told scum how to win against us and lost because of it, thanks for the reminder Gonzaw, if I made an ordered list of the reasons for town losing you would be at the bottom of the list. I'd be way above you on the blame chart with most of the townies (excluding BC, Dandel, and Acro and maybe 1 or 2 others idk). Don't feel bad about this game. We tried to lynch scum day 1 (after solstice), but failed. Day 2 blame on sk8r (lol). Day 3 we lynched geript. Day 4 we lynched kita. It's just too bad that everything went crazy. Don't feel depressed. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:18 GMT
#3579
On July 03 2013 13:16 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 13:10 gonzaw wrote: On July 03 2013 13:04 austinmcc wrote: I honestly thought you were bluffing with the big win percentage chance, but now I absolutely see it. I think that if I wasn't still super paranoid about NRA Member (which seriously doesn't do anything against factional KP), I might have gone for it. But as long as we were one on one and couldn't lynch each other, I didn't see a reason not to choose random nights to fire at you. Gonzaw telling me items were one-use was a big help, although...I assume that would have come out at some point during the day, when we started talking percentages. Before D4 ended I asked deconduo if he allowed scum to just no-NK ad nauseaum in a 1v1 situation like this. I felt it was kind of....unfair I guess. He said he'd think about it but never answered ;_; Also, couldn't Xfire technically just NOT use his item on those 27 nights? So you choose not to shoot on N5, Xfire chooses not to use his item that same night You choose not to shoot on N6, Xfire chooses not to use his item that same night ... You choose to shoot on N889, Xfire chooses to use his item on N889, you lose. I mean...it's technically possible. But you'd say something like "oh, but then I could just wait another day more!" yeah but games of mafia dont' work like that, at some point the host FORCES you to shoot. I mean, technically there is nothing that says scum must 100% shoot at night and town must 100% lynch at day. In ANY game of mafia town can NL at day and scum no-NK at night, yet that doesn't happen because someone's gotta give, and the host will make sure of that one way or the other In those cases it's difficult since there are 2 actors with 2 different actions: town -> lynch, and scum -> NK. But here it's easy, host just forces YOU to shoot, since you are the sole actor (scum -> NK). ...I guess the most fair situation would be this: Host asks Xfire at which cycle he would activate his item, then host asks austin at which cycle he will NK. If both are the same, it's assumed the game went on and both acted the same night, thus Xfire wins If both are different, then it's assumed austin shot Xfire when he was not protected, so austin wins. ...if austin can just give a number like N9898120932937109847612039781320918273 then I guess it doesn't matter, but again, host can take it down to a "reasonable" number......I guess I dunno this shit is confusing lol Well it fits with the craziness of this game. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:23 GMT
#3581
On July 03 2013 13:19 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 13:14 austinmcc wrote: Even then, it might have worked. I had planned to force you to target your ability onto crossfire the NRA member, making you kill yourself. That was the only way around it I could think of. You could force someone to use his ability? wtf lol Show nested quote + Seriously. It didn't actually kill anyone this game, but screw that role. "Oh, you targeted me, you're dead now, and you can also be bussed onto me" is some bullshit once the person looks townie. You talking about NRA member or your own role? If you are talking about NRA member then maybe yes it's OP (in this type of game at least). Like I said I threw random abilities in like 10 minutes, I didn't have time to think about balance So you spent all your time on the non mafia portion of the role (which was very fun btw), and not the actual mafia portion of the role? lol | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:28 GMT
#3583
On July 03 2013 13:26 gonzaw wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 13:23 Crossfire99 wrote: On July 03 2013 13:19 gonzaw wrote: On July 03 2013 13:14 austinmcc wrote: Even then, it might have worked. I had planned to force you to target your ability onto crossfire the NRA member, making you kill yourself. That was the only way around it I could think of. You could force someone to use his ability? wtf lol Seriously. It didn't actually kill anyone this game, but screw that role. "Oh, you targeted me, you're dead now, and you can also be bussed onto me" is some bullshit once the person looks townie. You talking about NRA member or your own role? If you are talking about NRA member then maybe yes it's OP (in this type of game at least). Like I said I threw random abilities in like 10 minutes, I didn't have time to think about balance So you spent all your time on the non mafia portion of the role (which was very fun btw), and not the actual mafia portion of the role? lol Yes >_> Well it made the game awesome when we communicated in code lol. Even though I messed it up and still knew what you were talking about, it probably gave kita and austin a lot to worry about. I don't know of any other way we could have pulled that off. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 04:31 GMT
#3585
On July 03 2013 13:29 gonzaw wrote: Yeah that felt awesome as well I had hoped it would have made more of an impact so we could go "FUCK YEAH" afterwards It almost did. I mean we knew what the safest plan was to guarantee us multiple chances at victory and we went for it. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 14:02 GMT
#3593
Original Message From [UoN]Sentinel: Yeah, dec put it in the spreadsheet Show nested quote + Original Message From Crossfire99: you did get my action to roleblock xata correct? Original Message From [UoN]Sentinel: Yes. Original Message From Crossfire99: ARe there rolelbock notifications? I then thought is was an elaborate ploy to mislynch me and win the game, so that's why I was so gung ho about it. I was pretty sure if we mislynched we lost, so that's why I pushed it so hard. Sorry, looking back now, I obviously wish I took a step back and thought about it more, but I didn't. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 14:09 GMT
#3595
On July 03 2013 23:05 deconduo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2013 23:02 Crossfire99 wrote: This is what happened. Original Message From [UoN]Sentinel: Yeah, dec put it in the spreadsheet Original Message From Crossfire99: you did get my action to roleblock xata correct? Original Message From [UoN]Sentinel: Yes. Original Message From Crossfire99: ARe there rolelbock notifications? I then thought is was an elaborate ploy to mislynch me and win the game, so that's why I was so gung ho about it. I was pretty sure if we mislynched we lost, so that's why I pushed it so hard. Sorry, looking back now, I obviously wish I took a step back and thought about it more, but I didn't. That was probably host mis-communication. I didn't know sentinel had sent that PM and I don't send notification messages unless its specified in the role/ability. Yeah, I realized after this instance and when I kept sending more pms and getting completely different answers lol. Don't worry about it, though. I know how hard hosting a crazy themed game can be. You guys did a great job! | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 14:49 GMT
#3599
On July 03 2013 23:44 Xatalos wrote: ALTHOUGH!!! I did clearly ask in the thread for host confirmation about this mess. What we got were two opposite answers by two different hosts ("no" by deconduo and "yes" by Sentinel). This could all have easily been resolved, and somewhat likely my death avoided, if it had been just made clear in the thread as I requested to begin with. Hosts pls (PS. I would have repeatedly demanded the situation to be resolved in the thread if I hadn't been AFK for that crucial time. Thus, I am also to blame for being AFK, although less than the hosts for contradicting each other IMO.) (PS+. Otherwise good job hosts, but this one failure *might* have caused town to lose. I hope I don't sound too much like geript now, I'm just.... Sad, I guess. Since I wrongly suspected Crossfire99 and he wrongly suspected and pushed me to death.) The hosts did clarify. It just happened to be after your death unfortunately. | ||
Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
July 03 2013 18:07 GMT
#3616
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