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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#1621
When can the Tardis be passed to another player? Can kita pass it to you once this D2 ends, or once N2 ends?
If he can pass it once D2 ends then good news maybe..maybe we could lynch austin, have kita pass it to you, and be "confirmed not scum" or whatever...


...oh wait...if kita is 3P then you CANT CONFIRM YOURSELF AT ALL.
+ Show Spoiler +
Kita is 3P survivor, therefore not scum by definition, therefore he can pass the Tardis back and forth with a scum as much time as he wants, so if you are scum you can pass it to him back and forth with no worries in the world


So there goes that plan sk8, do you have any other ideas to avoid your death? I don't really see any.

Xfire, please tell us if sk8 can survive a vig shot at night, thanks.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 26 2013 03:37 GMT
#1622
I'd wait for kita to state if what sk8 said about the Tardis is true
If he does, then I think it'd be better for kita to give it to someone else. Then that someone else gives it to someone else, THEN that someone else gives it back to that person.
If the Tardis can swap hands in phases and not cycles, by N3 those 2 can be confirmed scum or at least one is town.

That can REALLY work only if we do it with 2 guys that are scum, so they are indeed confirmed scum once they can't pass it to each other. Sadly that means we can't lynch those until N3 (when we could lynch on today and one D3)
If we do it with 2 other guys, then if it works it confirms that both can't be scum together, but one of them can still be scum, so it's not much help either (for instance, if Xatalos and Dandel keep passing it to each other, how do we know if 1 of them is scum or both are town?)

So, I think the best is....do whatever the hell you want with it. Nobody has said the "additional" powers the Tardis has yet, maybe that should be the decisive aspect to choose who to give it to.
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 26 2013 03:37 GMT
#1623
itt bad scumhunters
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 26 2013 03:38 GMT
#1624
On June 26 2013 12:37 gonzaw wrote:
I'd wait for kita to state if what sk8 said about the Tardis is true
If he does, then I think it'd be better for kita to give it to someone else. Then that someone else gives it to someone else, THEN that someone else gives it back to that person.
If the Tardis can swap hands in phases and not cycles, by N3 those 2 can be confirmed scum or at least one is town.

That can REALLY work only if we do it with 2 guys that are scum, so they are indeed confirmed scum once they can't pass it to each other. Sadly that means we can't lynch those until N3 (when we could lynch on today and one D3)
If we do it with 2 other guys, then if it works it confirms that both can't be scum together, but one of them can still be scum, so it's not much help either (for instance, if Xatalos and Dandel keep passing it to each other, how do we know if 1 of them is scum or both are town?)

So, I think the best is....do whatever the hell you want with it. Nobody has said the "additional" powers the Tardis has yet, maybe that should be the decisive aspect to choose who to give it to.

Also, Tardis has to be used before being passed. If used by mafia twice, it is randomly sent to some1. If someone dies while carry tardis, it is randomly sent to som1.

Ur welcome. I'm kind of not sober. gnite.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 26 2013 03:39 GMT
#1625
To not get much shit going on:

##Unvote: xxSK8rGUy277xx

I want to hear from Xfire/kita first to see if you can get vigged (thus we could lynch austin today)
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 26 2013 03:50 GMT
#1626
dont be all upset cause the role I wrote for u got nerfed. I could post the original I wrote for you. It was jester veteran lookout but the lookout gives u numbers with alignment instead of names, cuz that would just be OP. and then u can use your second ability to remove the jester ability from people based on the number u received.

i.e.
When activatd
1 visted u, they are MAFIA
2 visted u, they are town

so basically u could confirm players that visitedd u BUT u dont know who visited u and then become jesters. I guess it got nerfed though since apparently u say it blos. I thot it was pretty balanced
xxSK8rGUy277xx
Profile Joined September 2010
300 Posts
June 26 2013 03:51 GMT
#1627
##Lovetap Gonzaw
##Lovetap Kitaman27
##Lovetap Crossfire
##Lovetap Dandel Ion


now im actually going
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 26 2013 03:55 GMT
#1628
If what you say is true...wow. I may need to vent in post game.
I guess ma nigga may have gotten completely different stuff then (so yeah if that's so I guess he won't have KP tonight)
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 26 2013 04:40 GMT
#1629
On June 26 2013 12:21 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 12:16 gonzaw wrote:
On June 26 2013 12:09 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
The Tardis has a limitation against Mafia using it twice to prevent them from just constantly passing it to eachother, If Mafia attempt this it sends it to a randomized player. Thus if I use it, pass it to Kita, and Kita uses it and passes it back to me and I receive it. Then you knokw that -

1. Either Kita or I am not Mafia
2. If this is continued with another player i.e. I pass it to you since you can't do shit anyways. You pass it back. Then we know that between me and you one of us is not Mafia.

Lynch me if you want. If it can confirm Austin as scum then I'm all for it.


1)Is the limitation about any SINGLE mafia using it twice, or about the Tardis passing hands between 2 mafia members?
So if there is 1 Mafia and 1 Townie, they can't pass the Tardis to each other?

2)How do you know this? Because you got the Tardis at the beginning of the game?
Who can confirm this other than kita?
I assume you got 100% confirmation from the hosts right? And there is no thread of doubt in your head that can work?

3)Okay, imagine (1) is true, how does that prove you are not 3P? Or another anti-town faction (maybe a hidden scum like Sleeper Cell whatever)

4)I was going to ask a question about why you are still not scumhunting yet, but I know better now


1. No the Tardis has to be passed after use. The limitation is to prevent mafia from passing it back and forth to eachother.
1 mafia and 1 townie can pass to eachother.

2. 100% confirmation on what? Me having the Tardis. yeah. I passed it to solstice. Solstice died, it came back to me. I passed it to Kita.

3. I can't prove im not 3p. Sry

4. good


So let me get this straight. You managed to give the tardis away not once, but twice in a single day? You said you had to use it to pass it on which means day 1 you used your own role, the tardis, then the tardis again at night?

I call fucking bullshit.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 26 2013 05:04 GMT
#1630
On June 26 2013 02:48 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:40 kitaman27 wrote:
It has a night action associated with it's passing. Sk8r can confirm.

So you can't pass it until night? I'm confused what you're trying to say here.



If this is true, Sk8 just lied again.

Dropping a vote on him until he explains this suitably.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 26 2013 05:11 GMT
#1631
BC, do you believe kitaman and his crumbs (that he's survivor)?

Yeah I just don't even try understanding that shit, it's as muddy as shit water (the whole Tardis/actions whatever stuff).
Why can't you guys just be clear about it?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 08:00 GMT
#1632
On June 26 2013 14:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 02:48 Crossfire99 wrote:
On June 26 2013 02:40 kitaman27 wrote:
It has a night action associated with it's passing. Sk8r can confirm.

So you can't pass it until night? I'm confused what you're trying to say here.



If this is true, Sk8 just lied again.

Dropping a vote on him until he explains this suitably.


Isn't it allowed to use day ability + TARDIS at night after that...? That would make sense.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 08:10 GMT
#1633
Anyway, I don't see why we should lynch someone other than austinmcc (or maybe Kitaman27) today. sk8r hasn't exactly made himself look good lately (away for like 24 hours and then a random sheep vote LOL), but that's not enough to lynch him over an almost certain scum or a certain not-town.

With that being said, the situation might be very different tomorrow. sk8r, you'd better start scumhunting ASAP instead of trying to semi-confirm yourself with your role. If this lack of playing townishly keeps up, I'm starting to think that you're either scum or 3rd party. Or an anti-town town, which almost makes me want to lynch you as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 08:22 GMT
#1634
On June 26 2013 12:27 gonzaw wrote:
Speaking of which nobody gives a shit about this game so I'll just withhold the shot and do it tomorrow.
We may have only 2 or so hours to do stuff after it...but well whatyougonnadoboutit?

If I use it now and BC drops dead or something then it'd be making the situation worse


Now I'll be kept in suspense for a day longer IMO you should have used it earlier to give more time for analysis before the lynch, but if it's 2 hours, that's not too bad either (I guess). At least most players should be online around deadline compared to other times, so it's not that bad. Just use it right when you get back..

(WOS: I don't want to reveal my ability yet, but yes, I can say that I targeted you with it. And your death made the ability lose its effect - confirmed by host.)

(Btw if strongandbig apparently gets modkilled today, that's one worry off our shoulders. It'd be a real nightmare to have him at LYLO.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 08:24 GMT
#1635
(And I can say it's not one-shot poisoner LOL.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 08:39 GMT
#1636
Just in case Gonzaw's slot machine kills me, current reads:

Town:
Gonzaw
Dandel Ion
Zephirdd
BC

Null:
geript
Crossfire99
Kurumi
strongandbig (his filter is too empty to say he's scum with confidence, but I guess we'll find out soon with the modkill - or if he magically comes back to sheep vote, please shoot/lynch)
sk8r (has appeared more scummy/anti-town lately and should be considered as well)

Survivor
Kitaman27 (no real reason not to believe his claim atm, but it doesn't sound good to have him at LYLO to play kingmaker and potentially be scum as well - not against shooting/lynching him)

Scum
austinmcc (if he's not scum then my brain will explode)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 26 2013 09:12 GMT
#1637
I would more lynch sk8r than kita by the way
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 26 2013 09:24 GMT
#1638
Btw if sk8r actually flips scum, I apologize for playing that race... No, I mean defending him earlier. Would that implicate Crossfire99 as well? Since he basically turned the tide and "saved" sk8r from D1 lynch, so to speak. That feels like a rash tactic for scum.. But could be a panic reaction or something. Hm. Would town Crossfire99 be this trusting towards scum sk8r? But would scum Crossfire99 so openly align with scum sk8r?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 26 2013 12:06 GMT
#1639
Still no flips?
The disappointment.

btw I won't be around for the lynch, I got shifted into a nightshift for shifty reasons.
So if yer getting cold feet get em fast.


I should probably rescind my townread on sk8er. Yeah... I'll do that. Back to null it is.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 26 2013 12:06 GMT
#1640
Other than that, nothing. This is boring.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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