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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 23 2013 23:37 GMT
#1074
On June 24 2013 08:26 gonzaw wrote:
Acro do you still want to kill sk8?

No. The bit he revealed about how his role worked was still kinda iffy, but Xfire confirming how it works and BC not actually claiming roleblocked come together to take a lot of the oomph out of my case.

I wouldn't say he's 100% town, but I am leaning that way now. Either that, or scum sk8r+xfire are making a giant play... and that would not jibe well with what I know about xfire at all.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 23 2013 23:39 GMT
#1076
Oh, and even if there's a chance he's scum (and has the role he does), he claims he can modconfirm himself as town. So I'll just wait for that to happen.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 23 2013 23:51 GMT
#1078
I got masoned to Gonzaw. And from the initial posts from him, he doesn't actually know why we are masoned.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 23 2013 23:54 GMT
#1079
On June 24 2013 08:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 08:35 Acrofales wrote:
On June 24 2013 05:51 gonzaw wrote:
So that's why Acro didn't want him lynched then?

Hmm, let's see what Acro said, I think he said "I doubt The Doctor is scum". Did Acro post stuff specifically about solstice?

I had absolutely no idea that s0lstice was the doctor. But... yeah, I would have campained harder against him being lynched with that info. The role is not too powerful for town, but would be ridiculous in scum hands.

So if you knew he had the role that was meh for town but super good for scum you would have tried to get him not lynched just based on that?

makes sense brah.

Can't argue with balance.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 23 2013 23:58 GMT
#1080
Anyway, other than balance, I wouldn't have wanted to lynch s0lstice in any case. Just look through my filter for my opinion on him.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 00:18 GMT
#1082
Done catching up on the thread:

MZ comes out looking pretty terrible. His post after the vote feels like fake frustration. I also get the feeling he was around and capable of hammering, but just chose not to. Scum profits most from a no-lynch at this point (and moreso still if austin is scum)

Kurumi could also have hammered and didn't. This would make sense if he had proclaimed a strong town read on austin, but he hadn't. In fact, he seems to be in agreement with Xata that austin is not acting like his usual townie self. Shot up about a billion years in the scumomenter. I now want him dead.

No clue about geript. I'm inclined to go with the too dumb to be scum defense, but it's pretty dodgy.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 00:23 GMT
#1085
Ah. I missed a vote. Ignore what I say about Kurumi then.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 03:24 GMT
#1109
I also had a quick look at Xfire's filter. There's not much content there, but the bit there is is actually pretty good.

Firstly, he defends sk8er when the ball was getting rolling. He basically singlehandedly stopped the lynch on sk8er. That seems to mean they are either scum together, or Xfire isn't scum: there seems to be no reason for a scum Xfire to prevent a lynch on town sk8er.

Now, given my updated read on sk8er I am getting back to thinking he's town, and presumably will prove it through whatever mechanism he's claiming. So Xfire seems in the clear too.

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 03:25 GMT
#1110
austin completely missing stuff like that is not making me any more comfortable about him.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 14:43 GMT
#1132
Why'd everybody go quiet?

Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems:

On June 24 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote:
BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you.

NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS

JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.

If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.

To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.

Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work.


I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good.

Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die.

HUH?

If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw.

Next:
On June 24 2013 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 19:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-

On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.



LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.

If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!!
More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town).

Onwards and upwards!
On June 24 2013 20:11 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something.

Hey Kurumi.
Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles.
Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so?

Also I know who wrote my role.
:D


That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again?

We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART!

Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them.

Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case.




In closing: lets kill Xatalos
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 14:45 GMT
#1133
On June 24 2013 23:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 07:44 kitaman27 wrote:
This is important. Please read.

[image loading]

Whoever owns the TARDIS, please pass it to me tonight. I just need you to trust me on this one, but there will be evidence of its usage in the day post tomorrow and how it will clearly benefit town. Additionally, the role I created can ensure that I will be protected from night hits/busdrivers/roleblocks. I'm requesting protection from Strax tonight so I can pull of my ability with the TARDIS tonight. If I end up dead tomorrow, Strax is almost certainly scum. If there is a watcher role out there, it might be worth being on me as well, since it can essentially confirm me, Strax, and the Tardis owner as town if things go as planned.


Also, if the mafia team thinks they want to play any tricks with a scum Strax, I'm quite certain that I'm aware of his identity so I'll be revealing his name before the night post in case he decides not to give me safety tonight. I'll comment on yesterday's lynch in a bit.

You're not getting a TARDIS from me.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 14:55 GMT
#1134
On June 22 2013 11:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 11:04 Acrofales wrote:
I'm home! Haven't read anything yet, but after umpteen scumgames and a fairly longish break, I finally rolled town!

Also, in case this plan hasn't been proposed yet, I think everybody should say what character they made the role for. That way, if someone claims, someone else can back that shit up, or act as a lie detector.


Or the scum can pick off the players that created their roles and they are free to use it as they wish or modify it with a fake claim. That's silly.


Kitaman wrote (paraphrased):
I MADE STRAX'S ROLE ROFLCOPTER


Not that I have much of a read on Kita either way. Just pointing this out because it made me lol.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 15:40 GMT
#1139
On June 25 2013 00:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote:
Why'd everybody go quiet?

Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems:

On June 24 2013 18:24 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote:
BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you.

NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS

JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.

If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.

To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.

Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work.


I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good.

Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die.

HUH?

If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw.

Next:
On June 24 2013 19:54 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 19:20 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-

On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.



LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.

If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!!
More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town).

Onwards and upwards!
On June 24 2013 20:11 Xatalos wrote:
On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something.

Hey Kurumi.
Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles.
Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so?

Also I know who wrote my role.
:D


That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again?

We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART!

Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them.

Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case.




In closing: lets kill Xatalos

meh

Did you actually look at Xata's filter? Other than the fact that he is moderately active, what about him makes you think he looks townie?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 16:43 GMT
#1146
Ah goddamn it. DI has got me doubting again. I went through Xata's older games and the whole waffling stuff and using extremely longwinded run-on sentences seems to appear more in his town games than his scum games (at least, I compared British to Dessert, and I vaguely remember the newbie we were in together).

Let me put it this way: I can see why he wasn't lynched in Dessert, and it's largely because he is not doing anything dumb like posting waffly crap about how Kurumi is 100% town or 100% scum (like he did in this game).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 16:43 GMT
#1147
Ooooh, a defense.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 16:46 GMT
#1148
Okay. Homicidal urge is under control again. Lets go back to killing MZ, SnB and austin.

Crisis averted.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 16:48 GMT
#1149
My suspicions D1 weren't wishy washy at all, btw. They may have changed during the day (I changed my mind when new information was available, clear scumtell), but were never wishy washy. That's not how I roll (regardless of alignment).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 18:11 GMT
#1167
On June 25 2013 02:58 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 02:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, xat.

The reason i view sk8s ability use as not townlike is this.

He has actively had posts that are heavily heavily anti town. He actively admitted to trolling, and lying about reads. Denying to give his reads when he could have died as it "was people fishing"

He then near instantly starts claiming my shot was fake and proceeds to toss suspicion on me for it when he would know his power was responsible for him not dying. Given the fact he openly admitted to wanting to get shot, and has been behaving overall as someone attempting to take a vig bullet, I would put him down as a scum read. Just because he has a self defense power and that he came out and admitted it WELL AFTER a situation while using the role as a reason to call bullshit and clutter the thread even more.

Kita and Meapak both need to post more.

Still pressuring me.

Did someone write an Executioner role that can also day vig?

My self defense power does not roleblock you or return your bullet which is why I think you are lying or someone else saved me.

Just so everyone knows, I am Sally Sparrow, town aligned, and used my ability during the day. I will be using my ability AGAIN tonight.

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain




What the hell does wheel of time quotes have to do with your role? If nothing, then why the hell are you being so confusing.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 18:16 GMT
#1170
On June 25 2013 02:42 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 01:46 Acrofales wrote:
Okay. Homicidal urge is under control again. Lets go back to killing MZ, SnB and austin.

Crisis averted.


What... That was really fast. Care to explain how I went from clear scum to townish in a matter of 30min or something? Apparently you read through my previous games. Why did you do that AFTER making your case, not before you met resistance in the form of DI and myself? Sadly it looks like justification to abandon the failed bandwagon... Meaning you appear in a more scummy light based on these recent posts. Also, what exactly about my defense "averted the crisis" (excluding you checking up my posting history)? This is just a very strange chain of events and I want to hear your reasoning. Ugh, I hope I don't have to drop you as well from my townreads..

Because my automatic go-to isn't meta. It's a lot of work and I'm a busy man.

Your defense was fine. I didn't actually use much of it, but it didn't seem particularly panicked and explained your thought process a bit better. Combine that with what DI pointed out and me checking up on your meta, I decided you are not really the scummiest guy in the thread. You (probably) just have an unfortunate posting style that makes me raaaage.

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18265 Posts
June 24 2013 19:34 GMT
#1214
Yay. Gonzaw is town. Other than that: I haven't read the giant case, so can't say anything about MZ or WoS.

@Xatalos: what was the point of those questions? An exploration in self-analysis? If it is somehow going to help you scumhunt I'll answer, but it seems more postgame oriented than of any use right now.
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