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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
August 03 2013 19:27 GMT
#1801
Is chez... speaking with Chez 0_0.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 19:43:34
August 03 2013 19:42 GMT
#1802
On August 03 2013 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is it better to not claim than to claim? I am withholding town information that does not benefit us at all? I certainly should never pardon anyone (although if i was online at the late D1 i would have pardoned VE because the lynch was so stupid).

Only thing that can happen if i do not claim is that i pretty much get insta-lynched if there is a rolecop who cops me.

EDIT: You have a fair point in the copycat role. Role-vig is gonna shoot someone anyways, i would accept myself as a mafia shot as it removes the doubt on my role/alignment.


1.) Claiming allows Scum to know for sure you aren't a Cop/Doc so unless you start rocking people you probably will be kept alive. Setup is semi-open so you have no idea what is out there.

2.) Pardoner is a great role in most vote wins setup. Especially the way this game was going. Remember unlike Majority Lynch there doesn't need to be consensus on who dies. Someone can die with 3 votes out of 20, split votes, last minute switching, getting to the most votes first - Town Pardoner can basically see the bullshit and save an obvious Townie here. Saving the Town from 1 mislynch is great but scrubs don't think like this. Imagine you are Scum and you spent an entire day bullshitting people and the Pardoner ends it all within 1 minute. Saving VE Day 1 where a few people thought he was Town might have caused major problems for the Scum team. Pardoner is less useful in Majority Lynch since people should be spending tons of time convincing others to get on a wagon - undoing possible Town motivations is the problem with Pardoner in that setup. It doesn't apply as much in this kind of voting game. The role is narrow but super powerful.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 03 2013 21:09 GMT
#1803
lol Chez. It hurt my soul when I shot you. But I thought you were the cop and I thought that I could hide in mafia KP because the thread was figuring it out as well. People were asking why you were talking about multiple cops etc.

Town was pretty strong this game given they had 2 people modkilled, 2 people being afk and the first lynch a dayvig townie basically killing himself over a scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 04 2013 00:01 GMT
#1804
On August 04 2013 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I kinda agree with you SnB, but the SK balances the game very well.


i disagree - the sk balances the game from the town's side (town would be way op without the sk) but it doesn't balance the game from the scum side (the sk existing doesn't increase scum's chances of winning since if they get ahead he will cooperate with town).
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
August 04 2013 00:23 GMT
#1805
mafia with low kp is shitty

sk is shitty

traitor with pardon is shitty

2 cops without anti-cop role is shitty

dayvigs are shitty

modkills are shitty

i am shittty

but it definitely was not a normal game and that tag leads people (totally not me) into making assumptions based upon what a normal game is that do not fit with what this game was.

i would also like to apologise to mafia for accidently making them think that marv or mz was the sk and town for a false check. maybe i should get a ban.

some fun moments though, it was just a shame that the game took so long to get started so a lot of people weren't aware or ready for the game to start.

I can't beleive day 1 though. Two town switch to save a scum and the town dayvig commits suicide after mafia had the chance to secure an easy town lynch with only a single player on the wagon but didn't.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 04 2013 06:57 GMT
#1806
hi i just wanna say thanks to the hosts, thank you for your time and deicatoin.
That having been said, i would like to add, no offense meant to anyone, but this was the worst hosting I ever saw. literally the worst like you actually ruined the game how hard is it to accomplish a fuckup so monumental
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 04 2013 08:36 GMT
#1807
On August 04 2013 15:57 kushm4sta wrote:
hi i just wanna say thanks to the hosts, thank you for your time and deicatoin.
That having been said, i would like to add, no offense meant to anyone, but this was the worst hosting I ever saw. literally the worst like you actually ruined the game how hard is it to accomplish a fuckup so monumental
I'm sure no offense was taken.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#1808
layabout.. a ban is surely not warranted.


u misquoted something.. ohh well, I think the lesson learned here was warming up to korynne too quickly.. thatsbwhat got I killed and prevented u from correcting the check

ironically it appears u were not aware of this error until end game.


p.s. I agree with layabout/snb... I would love to play in another post count restriction game, just more emphasis on normal setup
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 04 2013 17:44 GMT
#1809
Kush, I dont know exactly what you mean but it was layabout who made the mistake. Not the hosts.
I had a good night of sleep.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 04 2013 18:05 GMT
#1810
Also putting mocsta into the game last second was unfair.the slot should have been modkilled. Australians too good at mafia
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
August 04 2013 21:49 GMT
#1811
On August 04 2013 15:57 kushm4sta wrote:
hi i just wanna say thanks to the hosts, thank you for your time and deicatoin.
That having been said, i would like to add, no offense meant to anyone, but this was the worst hosting I ever saw. literally the worst like you actually ruined the game how hard is it to accomplish a fuckup so monumental

Mind if I ask how? I was late on only one day post and I responded to all PM's received. I could of been more fluffy with the day/night kills and written little blurbs but my short story skills are nonexistent and I'd rather spare you from experiencing that.

On August 05 2013 03:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Also putting mocsta into the game last second was unfair.the slot should have been modkilled. Australians too good at mafia

It was a lessor of two evils scenario. I had to weigh how douchey it is to switch out someone so late in the game versus the negatively of giving mafia a win via modkill. I felt that not modkilling the town into a defeat was a lessor evil versus throwing another obstacle at the mafia/SK.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 05 2013 00:36 GMT
#1812
Sorry but I do not understand the nature of all the fuck ups completely, however the biggest blow to the game was making pardoners private, and I believe the blame for that belongs with one of the hosts/cohosts etc.
but seriously I know how much time it takes to be a mod and how complicated it can be at times so I have nothing but appreciation for the fine work you do. etc etc
But yeah I formally request that this game be removed from the permanent record and not count towards our published winrates due to host oversight.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 05 2013 00:55 GMT
#1813
lol... that's a bit extreme kush

I never asked for my first scum loss to be removed.. u know, the one where u got banned for smurfing in a newbie andd then u and ya mate decided to bus me instantly for shits n giggles.


the game wqasnt perfect, but somehow it still came down to the wire...
and this game finished with an awesome post game write up
lest bygones be bygones
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#1814
dude i didn't bus you for shits and giggles. thats just how i play scum EVERY SINGLE SCUMGAME.................

yes i was playing that game for real
no i didn't expect my friend to get modkilled. he told me he really wanted to try to play legit
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
August 05 2013 01:03 GMT
#1815
On August 05 2013 09:55 Mocsta wrote:
lest bygones be bygones

This is and has always been the unspoken motto around here. We play a game which by nature can get heated and I've certainly said things to people which I wouldn't outside of the game and indeed I have apologized for my actions in game when the situation warranted. Similarly, I have messed up as a host (or cohost), messing up as a host is worse because it effects everyone in the game, however mistakes happen and at the end of the day it's just best to move onto the next game.

That said, if you feel you have been truly been grievously wronged I encourage you to challenge RoL to a BW grudge match... that is the one true way to settle mafia disputes
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 05 2013 01:21 GMT
#1816
It's true that modkilling town to death is not great, but then it's Adam losing the game for his team vs the hosts winning it for his team. So that probably should have happened. Not really the important point here though, although Adam should get a ban for it
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 05 2013 01:23 GMT
#1817
no one gives a shit about winrates
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#1818
That is true

Like kush if you want to have what you consider an "accurate" record then just put it in your profile and anyone who cares (aka you) can look at it there.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 05 2013 01:37 GMT
#1819
I would love the bluelightz 3 different cops setup applied to the post restrictions and pm land type game
and include a miller or something
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 05 2013 01:45 GMT
#1820
meh @ post restrictions. The only reason this game didn't get out of hand with them is because of PMs. Ask people to explain all their thoughts with limited posts and no PMs and game will turn to shit.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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