EPT[N] Sicilian Mafia Style - Page 89
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Vivax
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On August 03 2013 20:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you had just pushed any lynch at any point of the game i would probably believed you. I couldn´t believe you were town even when Oats revealed his check because you were just sitting in there talking in PM´s with people and to me it seemed like you didn´t even want to solve the game. Like those two quotes, i don´t even read that kinda stuff in thread close enough where someone says "maybe it´s like this but i dunno". I know it sounds harsh especially as the analysis is spot on but you don´t really didn´t sound town!marv!convincing to me at any point of the game. :/ No, that's perfectly understandable and quite correct. Can't blame anyone at all for not listening to me when I was right, since I was wrong most of the time anyway and wasn't very convincing about anything besides. Can't say I'd have listened to myself much either  On August 03 2013 20:38 Vivax wrote: Marv lost his articulation skills when he got too used to explaining people how to install Adobe reader Touché, sir. (Usually I was at work when Vivax and I were talking on irc) | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 03 2013 14:27 Mocsta wrote: vers analysis is awesome and even if the game was closed for him, I'm sure he would have got it.. but he uses information from being host to clear Marv etc can anyone tell me why Marv was a town read.. I'm looking at clarity here, I think he said in qt Marv looked firm town Mainly from the pm stuff that was posted and just general feel. Sorry I can't be more helpful =/ Marv has this spammy nature to him, speaks his mind in thread. With the post limitation he did it in pms instead. Scum calls him SK... means he can't be scum unless you think they faked those logs which is just too farfetched. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 03 2013 20:48 marvellosity wrote: Should have masoned me babe x I kinda wanted to but Oats was an obv-pick because he was obv-town and i needed to talk with someone about when/how to claim. I also wanted to mason Sloosh cause i wanted to figure out his scumbuddies but that didn´t obviously work out. :/ | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Mocsta replacing in and trying to solve the game frightened me. I think there should come a new rule that people can't be replaced anymore after 2 cycles or something like that. For anti-town parties it is frustrating when an inactive guy that you can keep alive suddenly becomes an insane active dude. You kept the guy alive because he was inactive, it is unfair that it is anti-town responsibility to kill the inactive towns. Imagine you being on a scumteam and you are fooling town completely and suddenly after a night an inactive gets replaced with Ver and with 1 post he points out your entire team... That's kinda stupid. I am happy that I was suddenly able to point out 3/4 scums. Even though nobody believed me -_-*. Kush and Korynne not being on the marv wagon in the SnB lynch made me think Marv was scum and VA town. If VA wouldn't have claimed and had shot Mocsta we would have had that draw. VA claiming made me go straight into panic mode for the last 24 hours. I didn't want to have a draw with the entire scum team though, VA alone maybe :D. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
-Can someone explain to me why people post these giant logs after their mason partner dies? Seems to me to be an incredibly mafia motivated idea, but obviously townies are doing it too. If I was mafia or SK I would doctor everything in the logs I wanted to to paint whatever picture I wanted, assuming that someone actually reads these massive text walls. Only time to post logs is if that person is still alive; otherwise nobody can trust what you post because you could easily be mafia altering it. Remember folks, keep the town on a need to know basis. Don’t flood them with useless or mafia altered info. This is a good point and I didn't really think of it this way. Shall remember forever <3 The whole analysis is a good read though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Ver could you explain me why you came into conclusion that my claim + being silenced did not make me town considering this: 1) If i was mafia pardoner i would have totally made one of the best mafia roles useless for my team. 2) I would have used another very strong power (silence) on myself, when i have established a very good PM network with Gumshoe, Oats, and DrH, Vivax, marv (by proxy). Gumshoe has promised to claim his role to me (that one i majorly fucked up, i somehow thought everyone was blue in this game and that it was somehow known :/ ). I would have wasted 1/3 mafia powers on D1 on something that does not make me confirmed town and definitely does not put my team into better position considering the other options. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
I had similar thoughts as Ver on your claim+silence. The claim itself doesn't make the role useless. Just look at what happened in this game. Even after a known mafia player was pardoned, nobody attempted to make a serious push on you! What's to stop mafia from pulling this this exact same play? For example in ssb mafia, an acrofales+artanis hydra claimed busdriver at the start of the game. They proceeded to bus a vig shot from their partner onto a townie. Nobody suspected them until the gaame was almost over! As for the silence, it's not something I would have self-targetted with in this situation but mafia teams have done stranger things. The fact that people do things like not using their roleblock power for the entire game still boggles my mind. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Only thing that can happen if i do not claim is that i pretty much get insta-lynched if there is a rolecop who cops me. EDIT: You have a fair point in the copycat role. Role-vig is gonna shoot someone anyways, i would accept myself as a mafia shot as it removes the doubt on my role/alignment. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Oats started blaming me for not wanting to talk with him when i tried to contact him many times but the timezones did not just fit I dunno rayn, maybe its because you blamed me first? | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On August 03 2013 21:23 Koshi wrote: gg all. Thx for game Ver & RebirthOfLeGenD!!! Mocsta replacing in and trying to solve the game frightened me. I think there should come a new rule that people can't be replaced anymore after 2 cycles or something like that. For anti-town parties it is frustrating when an inactive guy that you can keep alive suddenly becomes an insane active dude. You kept the guy alive because he was inactive, it is unfair that it is anti-town responsibility to kill the inactive towns. Imagine you being on a scumteam and you are fooling town completely and suddenly after a night an inactive gets replaced with Ver and with 1 post he points out your entire team... That's kinda stupid. I am happy that I was suddenly able to point out 3/4 scums. Even though nobody believed me -_-*. Kush and Korynne not being on the marv wagon in the SnB lynch made me think Marv was scum and VA town. If VA wouldn't have claimed and had shot Mocsta we would have had that draw. VA claiming made me go straight into panic mode for the last 24 hours. I didn't want to have a draw with the entire scum team though, VA alone maybe :D. Sorry, I couldn't explain this in game. Me and Ver had a conversation about this and opted to make an exception. If we didn't allow the sub in the town would of lost by default and it would of been a damn shame to fuck over those town who were still trying. Generally I won't replace after N1/D2ish, but it wouldn't of been fair to rest of the players if we modkilled them into defeat. Your reasoning is exactly the reason I generally don't allow late game subs though. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
Also Chez turned out to be town, but he really didnt make things easy on me XD In regards to Koyrne, nice high ground aproach XD threw me off of a pretty clear scum read. Also Marv, why ya gotta play so mad ) : Final note, wtf, the one game where we dont policy lynch Vayne day 1 and hes scum? Lame. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
EDIT: tbh i don´t think i would have ever figured out vayne. wp dude. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On August 03 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Chezinu was obviously town, his play was hilarious when he put all his green reads as red and faked a cop that way. I laughed my ass of when discussing this with Koshi in the game. :D EDIT: tbh i don´t think i would have ever figured out vayne. wp dude. 0_0 explain. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
if i have any control over the scum team I will blue snipe if it's post wise then I don't agree since I change it up pretty much every game | ||
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