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On July 18 2013 08:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
For the people wanting to kill Malongo, why him over MZ? Looking through his posts, they have nothing to do with the game really. So, you can't call him scum off of content, only really behaviour, due to him posting but not saying anything about the game. MZ though, has been doing something similar, but his posting blatantly mocks the town and shrugs off any responsibility to help. As well, MZ, at least initially, interacted more with the game, but when asked repeatedly to clarify his posts, he did not do so, instead opting to ignore those requests.
So, I'm stumped. Why is Malongo the most villainous of scum, but MZ gets passed over?
Because you are probably right and MZ is scum but scumteam is trying to gloss over the fact. I noticed that most people in the thread are ignoring your accusations against him but doesn't look like MZ is going to get lynched today but I would certainly be down to talk about that tomorrow. It is suspicious indeed.
This is my last post of the day so if anyone wants to know anything please donate me a post.
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lol wtf happened in the votes last second? Some pretty sketchy shit. Too tired to analyze it right now but I will be back before the day post.
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yea if meapak flips scum kholly is most likely scum as well. In the voting it looks like he was trying to get buscred for later but then so many other people ninjavoted that he had to change back his vote last second to save his partner. nothing else really makes sense in this situation.
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yea ill investigate meapak, hypo cop go
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nice that confirms rayn's claim. he is 100% clear. glad I was right about that. Weird as fuck kills, looks like scum shot their traitor LOL too good. nice vig shot whoever did it
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also anyone masoned with yamato should post anything weird he said
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Already read yamato's filter its completely worthless. just him tunneling VE all day who is already dead. He makes some brief comments about other players but nothing concrete.
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On July 19 2013 12:41 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 12:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Already read yamato's filter its completely worthless. just him tunneling VE all day who is already dead. He makes some brief comments about other players but nothing concrete. rofl wut... he tunneled VE to save sloosh how is that not obvious to you
I voted for sloosh yesterday so that's really not new information to me, It just solidifies my opinion of him. I was looking at the stuff regarding the other players. He just says yup lynch these dudes! and thats about it. doesnt say anything about their alignments.
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You are confirmed rayn because no sane scumteam would think their silencer is going to die at the first night. There is no way you and him set that up to make you look clear.
use logic and it's obvious you are town
As for this Ace claim I ain't believing shit after roulette, just gonna keep playing this day normally like it didn't happen. Keep hunting scum and don't just end discussion for the day like it always does
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On July 20 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 00:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
You are confirmed rayn because no sane scumteam would think their silencer is going to die at the first night. There is no way you and him set that up to make you look clear.
use logic and it's obvious you are town
As for this Ace claim I ain't believing shit after roulette, just gonna keep playing this day normally like it didn't happen. Keep hunting scum and don't just end discussion for the day like it always does It has already pointed out by Korynne why this is not 100% true. You were talking about my claim, what does that have to do with anything (it's what i asked you about in the first place)? Do you think FT / Ace / both are scum? Also lol, my logic is that i am town as my role-PM says so. :D
Oh I'm talking about your claim of being silenced. We are on different wavelengths there.
I think Ace is 3rd party/VI actually. He said he had his own agenda and he's doing weird things
As I stated earlier I think FT is town after his back and forth with DrH and he is at least attempting to analyze things.
Sloosh/Koshi are my strong scumreads
meapak is a minor scumread, he's trollin' hard for some one that played so useful as town in nuclear
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On July 20 2013 00:56 Ace wrote:oh come on Vayne, it was a one time thing  This time I'm actually upfront about my lies.
you seem to be the detective role in every game I play with you lol, you always fakeclaim something. I am really interested in wtf your role is this game because I don't think you would blatantly play against your wincon.
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On July 20 2013 04:22 Koshi wrote:So I promised that I would take a better look at the VE voters. Oatsmaster: Voted for VE 1 minute after the voting thread was created and never took his vote off VE. (wtf)But that being said, Oats left for bed before VE made his (15/15) post and before VE claimed America. Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +[17:07:52] <Oatsmaster> can you look through gumshoe's filter and see if he breadcrumbed anything about his defence?
[17:07:00] <Oatsmaster> cause that guy is confirmed town
[17:07:17] <raynpelik0neet> what do you mean by "his defence"?
[17:07:30] <Oatsmaster> like bodyguard shit
[17:07:33] <Oatsmaster> i think its marv
[17:07:35] <Oatsmaster> but I dunno
[17:07:27] <raynpelik0neet> what, i don't follow
[17:07:33] <raynpelik0neet> can you walk me through it
[17:07:40] <Oatsmaster> gumshoe is a bodyguard
[17:07:43] <raynpelik0neet> yeah and died
[17:07:53] <Oatsmaster> he protected someone which means he gets killed if the dude he is protecting is shot
[17:07:05] <Oatsmaster> which means the dude he is protecting is confirmed town
[18:11] <raynpelik0neet> Oats
[18:12] <raynpelik0neet> how do you know gumshoe actually protected someone? Usually BG's do not get notification as they die. How would gumshoe know he protected someone succesfully? Do you know mafia hit someone else than gumshoe?
[18:15] <Oatsmaster> lol easy game
[18:15] <Oatsmaster> cause he said he did his job
[18:15] <raynpelik0neet> ..
[18:15] <Oatsmaster> ?
[18:15] <raynpelik0neet> why would he know about a succesful protection?
[18:16] <Oatsmaster> ah
[18:16] <Oatsmaster> true
[18:16] <Oatsmaster> but i dunno why gumshoe and not like 3 other dudes more townie
[18:16] <raynpelik0neet> because blue?
[18:16] <Oatsmaster> anyway it doesnt really matter
[18:16] <raynpelik0neet> ofc it does
[18:16] <Oatsmaster> cause I dunno who he protected
[18:17] <raynpelik0neet> you said mafia hit someone else
[18:17] <Oatsmaster> it matters if we know
[18:17] <raynpelik0neet> when gumshoe can't know that
[18:17] <Oatsmaster> we dont know
[18:17] <Oatsmaster> oh the extra info
[18:17] <Oatsmaster> right
[18:17] <Oatsmaster> i would know who is confirmed town then wouldnt i
[18:19] <raynpelik0neet> you kinda said
[18:19] <raynpelik0neet> marv is
[18:24] <Oatsmaster> i did
[18:25] <Oatsmaster> but now I dont
[18:25] <Oatsmaster> because no actual evidence
[18:25] <Oatsmaster> just speculation Oats was sure gumshoe protected marv. Oats can't know if gumshoe in fact protected anyone and was not hit instead (remember, he was kinda known to be blue) unless he knows he protected someone. And suddenly it's not marv anymore. rofl. Oats is mafia. ##Unvote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster When gumshoe said that he did his job I also immediately thought that he actually saved somebody. I don't think this is such a gigantic slip that you guys claim that it is. Isn't there a bigger chance that Gumshoe actually defended a bigger thread than himself? SloOsh: I have masoned Vivax. I will probably mason somebody else during the next night. I say this because I have discussed SloOsh with Vivax, as SloOsh was the scumwagon to him. Vivax asked me to read sloosh and I replied: + Show Spoiler +[11:52] <Koshi> Sloosh --> Looks not scummy to me. He makes good posts and calls stuff like they are.
[11:53] <Koshi> He also looks like a good player, so if he is not lynched it will become clear if he is useless or not
[11:54] <Koshi> If he is scum he is a good scum, if he isn't scum we can use him.
[11:54] <Koshi> I wouldn't take the risk lynching. A lot of his posting on Day 1 can have been to protect himself, he remember him trying to convince me to vote for VE. What makes Sloosh look bad is that he completely ignored the America claim from VE, he should have commented on that tbh. My read on SloOsh is what it is, I think that you should ask Vivax if you want a better read on SloOsh. Yamato: With him being on the VE train, I suspect at least 1 more to have joined after him. Maybe in the end, the remove the America claim, maybe a bit sooner to protect Sloosh. Ace: Playing completely different than in the Nuclear game, he was calm and not caring in Nuclear, while he is being chaotic and cynical in here.. Does this means he isn't scum here? No. Can I read him? No. Does my gut says he is scum? No. strongandbig: I read Vivax his arguments about SnB and I nod my head while doing so, it are the standard reasons that somebody reads in guides and applicable to SnB his posts. But I am not convinced yet. I do think SnB is following this thread way better than what he let us believe in his opening post. Same deal as with Sloosh, I wouldn't lynch him because he could be useful to town. I have not the read on SnB to condemn him scum. kholly: Chez did 2 things this game so far: 1) Focus on Gumshoe saying that he has only 1 Mason. 2) Give a sarcastic(?) list of scums. So after putting a lot of work in this post, I come to the conclusion that I don't have anything. I do know that you guys don't like lists that don't say shit and just fill up the thread. But sadly enough this is all I have, VA can have a fieldday again on me. Just going to put my vote towards uselessness: ##vote: kholly
Not like it matters since nobody will listen to me :D you saw how the case was completely ignored. The analysis is decent here and follow similarly with my line of logic so I will have to re-assess whether you are just trying to buddy or genuine in your thoughts. You aren't really on anyone else's radar right now so ill worry about other shit.
If I had to guess I'd say either kholly or SnB or both are the scum that helped move along the wagon since they voted late.
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On July 20 2013 09:44 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 07:16 kushm4sta wrote:
eh nvm. just read fts filter for the first time. he does.seem too focused on defense. gogo lynch ft.
##vote ft lololololololololol
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does that actually do anything or do you just want him dead?
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well guess he wasn't jokin, there goes our vig.
mindfuck'd
This FT wagon is probably scum driven now that we know the check is fake
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Well first of all I would like to apologize to RoL for putting him in the weird position of having to ask a favor of a mod to get me unbanned for this game. I should really just stop posting outside of the mafia thread when I am in a game lol.
second of all, yea sloosh has done nothing to make me think he is town yet but I don't agree with Vivax on Koshi, I hope you guys aren't both scum because your scumreads pretty much just match up with thread sentiment right now besides the layabout case.
I think my case on koshi is pretty solid so if you wanna look at that vivax and tell me why you think he would do that as town then I am all ears
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On July 18 2013 07:51 VayneAuthority wrote:
yo im back and pretty sure I found scum
Koshi's filter is full of logical fallacies and conveniently blending in with other people's reads if you can dissect his long posts.
His first reads post
Lists oats, VE, gumshoe, Malongo. People are convienently on Malongo and VE at this point but no one really on oats/gumshoe for the most part so even though he lays suspicion down on all of them he makes it clear that he wants to bandwagon onto the popular lynches first. This post pretty much spells out his play for the rest of the game, which scum often do.
He regurgitates reasons other people have made on malongo and VE, then for his thoughts on oats and gumshoe simply calls them out on activity/posting? lol scummy.
He then later gives gumshoe posts who is a scumread of his. Makes zero sense and that's usually a scumtell when you do illogical things that help the people you are suspicious of because you want to garner town trust (and you know they are town)
Finishes all this with saying he has to go bed and casually leaves a useless vote on malongo who is in no real danger today. Unassociating himself with the flip today.
Pretty sure Koshi is scum.
This is what I was referring to.
Also I don't see how picking out sloosh is weird because sloosh, koshi, and meapak to a lesser extent are my scumreads atm. It's the only one that currently interests me.
kholly is scummy as fuck ill give you that, but its chezinu so I'm not willing to say he is for certain scum just yet, especially with how many people are pushing his lynch.
Layabout is pretty useless this game as opposed to in roulette, I am pretty indifferent about him right now. Low priority if he's scum since he isn't affecting the game at all.
The SnB shot is weird as fuck but he never really cares in any of his games so I don't see that as alighment indicative
As for the logs, I'm not really too concerned with that as there's the possibility you are both scum. They seem genuine enough so it's not really my first option but we don't know his flip yet in nuclear and he was no fucks given in that game as well. I think that is just how he plays
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And by not affecting the game in terms of layabout I mean that no one is really voting for him or saying anything about him. We would get very little information out of his death if he is scum.
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On July 21 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
You're ok Koshi. I'm your guardian angel for now <3
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Vayne, I don't really like much of anything you posted there about kholly/s&b/layabout etc. I don't think it's scummy, just not good. In my opinion it's a massive mistake to write a terrible shot off as "he's apathetic" because it's too easy. At the very least massive, massive pressure should be applied to s&b for what he did.
Why would SnB, who has already been under heavy pressure this game, willingly post in the thread that he is going to shoot somebody? Makes zero sense from a logical point of view if he is scum. If you can answer me that then maybe I will give the case more weight. Until then it's just scum looking for a reason to off another PR.
You don't like anything I post ever, so nothing new there.
Koshi, some one has to pressure the people getting no attention or we have nowhere to go if we get to endgame. Just because everyone is going to play one style doesn't mean I am going to follow it, you should know that. If you are uncomfortable with my pressure just concede the game scum 
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On July 21 2013 03:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 21 2013 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
You're ok Koshi. I'm your guardian angel for now <3
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Vayne, I don't really like much of anything you posted there about kholly/s&b/layabout etc. I don't think it's scummy, just not good. In my opinion it's a massive mistake to write a terrible shot off as "he's apathetic" because it's too easy. At the very least massive, massive pressure should be applied to s&b for what he did. Why would SnB, who has already been under heavy pressure this game, willingly post in the thread that he is going to shoot somebody? Makes zero sense from a logical point of view if he is scum. If you can answer me that then maybe I will give the case more weight. Until then it's just scum looking for a reason to off another PR. There's no logical town-reason to shoot Ace either. People always seem to fail this test. Does it make sense as scum? No? As town? No? Usually if it doesn't make sense from either alignment it points towards scum. I learnt this from LI as a freshfaced newb when I couldn't work out VE's claim from either a town or a scum perspective and it confused the fuck out of me, and it turned out to be some elaborate scum ploy. If scum have a day-vigi shot, then they are going to use it. Take LX as an example, Chezinu was mafia and just shot some townie... because... he had a shot. To kill a townie. For free. And then people like you (I don't mean that derogatively, just people in general taking your attitude) say "but why do that as scum". Well, to shoot a townie and have other people defend them with wifom, that's why. Looking at it from your perspective, s&b has gotten away with shooting Ace for no god-damn reason because of your "well why would he" defence. Bad.
Maybe from your perspective, I was of the opinion that Ace was a 3rd party role since he said he was playing for himself and basically just trolling the entire game. I didn't think shooting him was a particularly bad shot but it is off putting.
Now the kicker is when I cross examine it the personality of SnB. Does this guy ever give a fuck? No? ---> leaning town.
The problem is his opening post is way too well constructed to make sense from a town SnB, looks like the guy spent an hour on that post alone and it didn't really sit well with me.
That's why he's at null for me at the moment, and I think there is a lot more pressing people to attend to like Sloosh and Meapak (since nobody agrees with me on koshi for whatever reason)
Sloosh has still done NOTHING to alleviate any suspicion around him. He's basically afk. If he's town I really would not be sorry to see him go. If he doesn't post at least something of substance soon i will be voting for him again.
As for Meapak see that he is demonstrably trolling the thread but in a different sense than Ace was. Ace was merely posting nonsensical bullshit. Meapak is trying to emulate that same attitude but is actively throwing shit at people. I see no reason to do that as town.
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