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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
May 28 2013 21:59 GMT
#1961
##throw sweet roll: Artanix[Xp]
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 28 2013 22:01 GMT
#1962
I am here to prove Kitaman27 is scum


First off, between claiming the name "me" and threatening town with game of thrones spoilers, Kita's campaign to get elected co-host was entirely jokes and literally no content. The first post where he says something of any value to the thread is this one:

The give-away

On May 24 2013 21:51 kitaman27 wrote:
yamato for the terrible slip.

Maybe Prom for making me think I'd actually get a vote in an election, then ripping my heart out

Hurry up and give me my incredibly imbalanced role!


This is the post that gave it away for me:

On May 25 2013 21:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 19:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 25 2013 18:55 yamato77 wrote:
I could see jampi as scum, but it's harder to tell with him. I don't have a lot of experience played with him personally, so it's hard to set what I expect from his play. Just based on content alone, he's fairly scummy in that he's seemed VERY interested in the cohost thing versus actually talking about people's alignments. He also sheeped on the geript lynch with virtually zero thought, so that's antoher point against him.


Wait wait what? Jampi was interested in actually playing the game, not the cohost elections. What yamato.
Clarify please.


Why are you going out of your way to defend jampi? How can you tell what jampi is or isn't interested in? He is perfectly capable of defending himself, assuming he returns (or isn't dead -_-)

I'm voting yamato. His "scumhunting" makes me think he is trying to dig himself out of a ditch after realizing that he is in trouble and needs to come up with someone. He mentions he hasn't done anything up to this point, then jumps on BH for not doing anything. Double standard doesn't make much sense if he is town and truly looking for someone suspicious.


What we have to look at is kita's position regarding the three players in quesion, Jampi, Oats and yamato. If kita is town, he will have a stance on each of them, and he will weigh the arguments based on his read, but here kita basically reveals that he has no opinion of the players.

He calls out Oatsmaster for asking Yamato (who is kita's "scumread") to clarify a read. Oatsmaster is NOT defending Jampi, he's using yamato's post to investigate yamato.

But because Kita doesn't actually have an opinion, he fumbles his aggressiveness so it doesn't become focused at all. It's basically a random question that has nothing to do with the game that's being played.




The yamato case

On May 25 2013 21:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 18:16 yamato77 wrote:
Now that there's actually a game, there are a ton of lurky fucks, myself included.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 18:27 yamato77 wrote:
I'll fully admit to not really reading the thread too much before now, because the trolling is difficult to sift through. Now that I have the motivation to do stuff, things are a little clearer.


Yamato opens his series of posts stating that activity has been poor so far this game. If he is town, it would establish the idea that a town player may not be motivated to post much so far, so activity this early in the game probably wouldn't be a good foundation to build your scum reads upon.


What Kita is trying to interpret as scumplay from yamato77 here is actually alignment neutral. Both of those posts can very, very easily be made as either faction.

On May 25 2013 21:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 18:46 yamato77 wrote:
BHs filter is really, really bad. At no point does he seem at all interested in people's alignments.


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 19:17 yamato77 wrote:
My analysis is "you aren't doing shit and don't seem to be looking for mafia"


However, that seems to be the exact reasoning that he comes out with his scum read on BH. Knowing that the exact same argument could have been used against him moments earlier, it seems to me that he is looking for someone that he could push, rather than hunting for mafia.


This is actually something I have a problem with. The fact that yamato77 hasn't done much this game doesn't make his points against BH any less valid, why should you only criticize other people's play and call out scummy things when you clearly haven't done any such things yourself? It sounds bad, but it isn't.

On May 25 2013 21:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 19:23 yamato77 wrote:
Whatever. It's clear to anyone reading that I'm trying to figure out the game


Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 18:58 yamato77 wrote:
No, but I have to prod you toward contributing to the hunt at some point. People are doing nothing and I really hate losing.


These posts make me think that yamato cares about looking good to others, rather than having a natural town motivation to scum hunt.


Actually, I think it's Kita looking at a somewhat scummy yamato, posting "scummy" but nothing that can only be posted as mafia, but Kita sees an easy target and goes for it.



Kitaman27 is scum
Computer says mafia
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 28 2013 22:08 GMT
#1963
LOL I think you got scammed dandel.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 28 2013 22:08 GMT
#1964
Acro, can you please refute the case for me?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 28 2013 22:23 GMT
#1965
I'll sheep that case


because i paid for it
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 28 2013 22:25 GMT
#1966
On May 29 2013 07:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Acro, can you please refute the case for me?

Pay me in grokbucks.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
May 28 2013 22:29 GMT
#1967
On May 29 2013 06:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##throw sweet roll: Artanix[Xp]

Is it edible?
You're not trying to poison me are you?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 28 2013 22:44 GMT
#1968
/sheep the great deep voiced God

@Kita
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 28 2013 22:54 GMT
#1969
On May 29 2013 07:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 07:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Acro, can you please refute the case for me?

Pay me in grokbucks.


No scumbuddy discount?

On May 28 2013 07:20 Palmar wrote:
[*] 3 GBs - I tell a player of your choosing why he's bad.


Please enlighten us regarding Dandel Ion and his against against me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 28 2013 22:54 GMT
#1970
On May 29 2013 07:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 07:25 Acrofales wrote:
On May 29 2013 07:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Acro, can you please refute the case for me?

Pay me in grokbucks.


No scumbuddy discount?

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 07:20 Palmar wrote:
[*] 3 GBs - I tell a player of your choosing why he's bad.


Please enlighten us regarding Dandel Ion and his case against against me.

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
May 28 2013 23:17 GMT
#1971
On May 29 2013 07:44 geript wrote:
/sheep the great deep voiced God

@Kita

Gotta check the barn for my shears!

baaaaa
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 28 2013 23:28 GMT
#1972
On May 29 2013 07:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 07:25 Acrofales wrote:
On May 29 2013 07:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Acro, can you please refute the case for me?

Pay me in grokbucks.


No scumbuddy discount?

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 07:20 Palmar wrote:
[*] 3 GBs - I tell a player of your choosing why he's bad.


Please enlighten us regarding Dandel Ion and his against against me.

You're right. Debunking the case is 5 grokbucks. Special price for you my friend.

[image loading]
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 28 2013 23:50 GMT
#1973
Okay I'm back. Time to catch up.
Cheese is good for you!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 29 2013 00:12 GMT
#1974
I'll give you guys a case of my own, free of charge.

yamato77

I'll start with the scum slip, but skip past this if you wish. That's not the strength of the case against him, but that is what he has tried to minimalism the case to. Even if you don't buy into the scum slip, look at his response to the scum slip. He states that he doesn't trust his alignment pm. That is not a something that is jumping into my head. That is not a normal town assumption to make, even in this type of game. He states that scum slips don't exist but references them in multiple past games.

On May 23 2013 06:40 yamato77 wrote:
I seriously do want to lynch kita.


On May 23 2013 09:06 yamato77 wrote:
Regardless, we're obviously lynching kita tomorrow.


On May 26 2013 04:26 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah I'm looking hard at kita. I'm apparently his only read this game, and all he's focused on is this "scumslip" thing.


On day one, yamato claims to be looking "hard" at me.

How hard you ask? So hard that the next time he mentions me is when he shows up 13 minutes after the deadline to call me scum.

On May 27 2013 07:13 yamato77 wrote:
Kita is scum. Town fucked off and pushed no lynch and kita has only talked about me the entire day.

Voting him, even though I die. GL with this fucked game, town.


yamato77 never brings up a case against me explaining why I am scum. yamato77 never votes for me in the voting thread during the day. yamato77 never tries to convince others to show up to vote for me.

After the yamato and BH exchange, yamato eventually jumps off the BH wagon. I've already explained that he establishes that activity is not going to be a useful indication at the begining of day one, but decides to push it anyways. After the wagon on BH fails to gain any momentum, one of his last posts of the cycle is the following:

On May 26 2013 05:57 yamato77 wrote:
I usually hate the lurker roulette, but scum BH has no motivation to townread me here, so I'd rather take the lynch in a different direction.

Convince me on this hopeless thing.


HE IS LOOKING AT LURKERS. yamato clearly is struggling to find an alternative to lynch this cycle. It's almost as if he forgot his super duper scum read on me. The guy he mentioned that he wanted to lynch three different times? Earlier on, he was looking "hard" at me, but now I'm not even mentioned as one of his lynch candidates?

Look at the timing of yamato's contributions to the thread. His exchange with BH comes at a time where he is in danger of becoming the main lynch candidate in the thread. Suddenly he engages "tryhard mode"

On May 25 2013 18:16 yamato77 wrote:
Scum are hoping town keeps trolling and starts fighting itself. I'm here to make sure that doesn't happen. Tryhard hat put on.


On May 25 2013 18:16 yamato77 wrote:
Now that I've established people I definitely do not want to lynch


On May 25 2013 18:27 yamato77 wrote:
Now that I have the motivation to do stuff, things are a little clearer.


Who is he kidding? Who actually says stuff like this as town?

Now its day two. Surely yamato will follow through with his wagon of justice against me.

On May 28 2013 06:59 yamato77 wrote:
We're lynching Sent tomorrow anyway, so go ahead.


Nope he gives us a couple one liners about sent and goes afk.

Look back through yamato's filter and tell me who was he trying to get lynched? Me? No. BH? No. Hopeless? No. Sent? No.

For someone who put on his tryhard hat and has motivation to solve the game, he has done nothing but omgus people and show up with the occasional one liner.

Quite simply, the scum hunting that he appears to be doing simply doesn't exist. Too many people give him town reads by saying the slip isn't a scum slip, but then ignore the rest of the evidence against him. I'm quite sure that once the cast against him starts to build up steam, he will suddenly become more active and look "hard" at me again.

yamato77 is scum.

I actually think that Sent might be yamato's scumbuddy going for a bus, without really bussing, but I'll go into that later.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 29 2013 00:13 GMT
#1975
On May 29 2013 07:44 geript wrote:
/sheep the great deep voiced God

@Kita


Mind referencing the part that convinced you?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
May 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#1976
@kita
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 29 2013 00:16 GMT
#1977
Zealos we should charge grockbucks to reveal our codes
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 29 2013 00:22 GMT
#1978
On May 29 2013 09:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Zealos we should charge grockbucks to reveal our codes


What is your opinion of prom claiming to have shot Zealos?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18488 Posts
May 29 2013 00:22 GMT
#1979
On May 29 2013 09:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Zealos we should charge grockbucks to reveal our codes

For 10 grokbucks I will reveal the code
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 29 2013 00:32 GMT
#1980
On May 29 2013 09:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 09:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Zealos we should charge grockbucks to reveal our codes


What is your opinion of prom claiming to have shot Zealos?


I'm actually confused about that... what is being implied here? Prom is a vig? And why has nothing been reported about Zealos's death/saving?
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