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On May 29 2013 04:11 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 04:07 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 04:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 03:06 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 02:50 iamperfection wrote:On May 29 2013 02:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I was questioning why is he trying to bus a hit to one of his town reads instead of one of his scum reads, not whether or not he actually is a busdriver. Whats the point of your question then he is scum or he isnt. Do you think he is scum? The point of the question is to figure it out. I want to know what his thought process is, but apparently he isn't interested in sharing. no, there is 1 (one) reason to rolefish a guy as town, it's when you think he's scum fakeclaiming. Since that is apparantly not the case, there is no town motivation behind it, and you are scum. No, you question the role claim when the role claim does not make sense. If a player claims cop and claims to have checked the guy that everyone knows is town, you question why he made that check. You claimed a busdriver who targeted BH and CC. As that is not a use of the role that makes sense as town, it makes perfect sense to question. Now you're claiming a busdriver with forced targets, which is a possible explanation for the claim. You said yourself that it's 1-time use so its not like I'm outing you as a busdriver. Okay, tell me the mafia motivation. Go. The mafia motivation for not busing BH into me would be that you look bad after I flip. It's easier for you to tunnel me, without actually pushing me. You bus the player that you were going to shoot with another town player, appearing to save a player, while still maintaining the mafia kp. That was before the forced target claim though, so if that is the truth, then this wouldn't apply. Yeah and it's totally "better" if I kill a random other townie? Nonsense, if that was the case I'd have a far "easier" time justifying it on hypothetical town you, and nobody would cry after your dead body either. Did you even think about it? It doesn't look that way. So what would you get out of rolefishing me if you're not even thinking it through? What would I lose asking about a roleclaim that doesn't make sense if you're 1-shot. Why so defensive? @Sent. You were one of the main people that swung the lynch from yamato to vivax. Why did your scum read on yamato no longer apply at the end of d1? @geript, Where were you at the d1 deadline. You also swapped to Vivax, but weren't around to follow it through. Was the vivax vote just better than the alternatives in your view? No, the question is what you would gain as town. And I don't see anything. Not even a motivation.
this is stupid
town should always question claims that don't make sense
kita might not think you're scum fakeclaiming but until you explain why you chose those two people specifically, and if it was forced how your role works, i'm calling you scum fakeclaiming busdriver or third party busdriver who didn't care whether his bus target was town or scum
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Because 1KP for mafia in the first place makes mafia insta-lose a game where everyone has a role, unless the town:mafia ratio favors scum much, or there is at least one 3p with KP. Fuck, even in normal games with this many people there is more than 1 anti-town KP.
Are you guys thinking at all?
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So the solution is that the kp we did see didn't come from scum. Brilliant!
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Hi I am volunteering that no, I am not thinking. I am in sort of a permanent mental haze since Sunday night. Could use some Ritalin or something to get me back on track =[
Prome, does my geript read make any sense from before? I am sort of feeling it less and less as he continues to not care about his thread image whatsoever. SNB doing stuff now too. Hmm.
Kita when I can place the attitude about your exchange here between you and dandel I will ask you a question. Brain nonfunctional bit I'm hoping some lifting #yolo (you only lift once) and cardio will perk me up. The word that I am thinking of is something like unnecessarily hostile. I guess I could say it that way. You came off as unnecessarily hostile in your exchange with dandel. Meanwhile I don't see anything out of dandel here that says he's mafia. He hasn't dissolved into purely trolling / AFK yet. Why so abusive to dandel?
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On May 29 2013 04:07 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 04:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 03:06 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 02:50 iamperfection wrote:On May 29 2013 02:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I was questioning why is he trying to bus a hit to one of his town reads instead of one of his scum reads, not whether or not he actually is a busdriver. Whats the point of your question then he is scum or he isnt. Do you think he is scum? The point of the question is to figure it out. I want to know what his thought process is, but apparently he isn't interested in sharing. no, there is 1 (one) reason to rolefish a guy as town, it's when you think he's scum fakeclaiming. Since that is apparantly not the case, there is no town motivation behind it, and you are scum. No, you question the role claim when the role claim does not make sense. If a player claims cop and claims to have checked the guy that everyone knows is town, you question why he made that check. You claimed a busdriver who targeted BH and CC. As that is not a use of the role that makes sense as town, it makes perfect sense to question. Now you're claiming a busdriver with forced targets, which is a possible explanation for the claim. You said yourself that it's 1-time use so its not like I'm outing you as a busdriver. Okay, tell me the mafia motivation. Go. The mafia motivation for not busing BH into me would be that you look bad after I flip. It's easier for you to tunnel me, without actually pushing me. You bus the player that you were going to shoot with another town player, appearing to save a player, while still maintaining the mafia kp. That was before the forced target claim though, so if that is the truth, then this wouldn't apply. Yeah and it's totally "better" if I kill a random other townie? Nonsense, if that was the case I'd have a far "easier" time justifying it on hypothetical town you, and nobody would cry after your dead body either. Did you even think about it? It doesn't look that way. So what would you get out of rolefishing me if you're not even thinking it through? What would I lose asking about a roleclaim that doesn't make sense if you're 1-shot. Why so defensive? @Sent. You were one of the main people that swung the lynch from yamato to vivax. Why did your scum read on yamato no longer apply at the end of d1? @geript, Where were you at the d1 deadline. You also swapped to Vivax, but weren't around to follow it through. Was the vivax vote just better than the alternatives in your view?
I wanted to lynch both of them. Just Vivax moreso. As a matter of fact I'm still voting for yamato unless I see a better alternative.
Deadline's in two hours isn't it?
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Forgive me, but I still can't understand why it does HAVE to be scum KP? Why not a vigi or SK or smth?
My point in the first place was that Dandel said "scum shot BH". Can someone explain why it HAS to be scum assuming dandel tells the truth?
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wat i thought the deadline was tomorrow?
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Wait don't we have a day +some hours before the deadline?
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Oh yeah you guys are right. Time isn't my strong suit.
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I think we have 26 hours minus a few min if the deadline is 6? If not then nobody has voted and it's mod kills for everyone.
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kitaman27
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On May 29 2013 05:07 ObviousOne wrote:
Kita when I can place the attitude about your exchange here between you and dandel I will ask you a question. Brain nonfunctional bit I'm hoping some lifting #yolo (you only lift once) and cardio will perk me up. The word that I am thinking of is something like unnecessarily hostile. I guess I could say it that way. You came off as unnecessarily hostile in your exchange with dandel. Meanwhile I don't see anything out of dandel here that says he's mafia. He hasn't dissolved into purely trolling / AFK yet. Why so abusive to dandel?
He started it with all the hate against my 7's. That's personal. 
You said you weren't sure about geript after he started pushing vivax. Has your mind changed at all?
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His read of Vivax was pretty static and seemed to be formulated early and latched on to rather easily even as Vivax was starting to participate in the conversation of the thread this invalidating "Vivax is being useless". I can see it two ways: too much going on IRL to pay attention to the game or scum.
The disregarding thread image reminds me of my read of artanis in LXI where he was lurking and being generally useless while catching up (where I had previously to that game established that his scum games were characteristically inactive and called him scum for it). Artanis ended up town there so I don't trust my ability to read people who aren't around for more than a handful of posts per day.
I personally can't tell the difference between his inability to be active (if that's the case) or if he's going more along the lines of the blending getmoript of LXI. Vivax read COULD be a non factor. Need to see if and when he posts today where he goes with his reads. Don't have time to review it this moment as I'm on my way out the door he might have popped in already and I missed it. Check that when I get home.
/outtie for gym now back in a bit
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Artanis[XP] has entered the game
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On May 29 2013 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Forgive me, but I still can't understand why it does HAVE to be scum KP? Why not a vigi or SK or smth?
My point in the first place was that Dandel said "scum shot BH". Can someone explain why it HAS to be scum assuming dandel tells the truth?
This feels like Red teams prize again. Kita, prome and preferrably Dandel, answer this.
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kitaman27
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On May 29 2013 06:06 iGrok wrote:
Artanis[XP] has entered the game
HI ARTANIS!
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On May 29 2013 04:51 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 04:11 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 04:07 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 04:00 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 03:57 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 03:25 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 03:06 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:On May 29 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2013 02:50 iamperfection wrote:
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Whats the point of your question then he is scum or he isnt. Do you think he is scum? The point of the question is to figure it out. I want to know what his thought process is, but apparently he isn't interested in sharing. no, there is 1 (one) reason to rolefish a guy as town, it's when you think he's scum fakeclaiming. Since that is apparantly not the case, there is no town motivation behind it, and you are scum. No, you question the role claim when the role claim does not make sense. If a player claims cop and claims to have checked the guy that everyone knows is town, you question why he made that check. You claimed a busdriver who targeted BH and CC. As that is not a use of the role that makes sense as town, it makes perfect sense to question. Now you're claiming a busdriver with forced targets, which is a possible explanation for the claim. You said yourself that it's 1-time use so its not like I'm outing you as a busdriver. Okay, tell me the mafia motivation. Go. The mafia motivation for not busing BH into me would be that you look bad after I flip. It's easier for you to tunnel me, without actually pushing me. You bus the player that you were going to shoot with another town player, appearing to save a player, while still maintaining the mafia kp. That was before the forced target claim though, so if that is the truth, then this wouldn't apply. Yeah and it's totally "better" if I kill a random other townie? Nonsense, if that was the case I'd have a far "easier" time justifying it on hypothetical town you, and nobody would cry after your dead body either. Did you even think about it? It doesn't look that way. So what would you get out of rolefishing me if you're not even thinking it through? What would I lose asking about a roleclaim that doesn't make sense if you're 1-shot. Why so defensive? @Sent. You were one of the main people that swung the lynch from yamato to vivax. Why did your scum read on yamato no longer apply at the end of d1? @geript, Where were you at the d1 deadline. You also swapped to Vivax, but weren't around to follow it through. Was the vivax vote just better than the alternatives in your view? No, the question is what you would gain as town. And I don't see anything. Not even a motivation. this is stupid town should always question claims that don't make sense kita might not think you're scum fakeclaiming but until you explain why you chose those two people specifically, and if it was forced how your role works, i'm calling you scum fakeclaiming busdriver or third party busdriver who didn't care whether his bus target was town or scum
WHO IS THIS I THAT SNB SPEAKS OF?
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Can anyone summarize the game for me so far because I'm not going to read 98 pages.
I'll post a complimentary spiderman picture for the best summary.
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On May 29 2013 06:10 kitaman27 wrote:HI ARTANIS!
Hi cutie ^_^
you wouldn't happen to be scum would you?
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