Newbie Mini Mafia XLII - Page 83

On June 17 2013 12:08 Onegu wrote:
Havent said it completely yet but thanks to the hosts, players and coaches, you did an amazing job and made enjoy myself a ton and lose alot of sleep.

On June 17 2013 09:45 Acrofales wrote:

I agree. I think Onegu played one heck of a game, for being stuck as a one-man scumteam, but if there's one criticism on your game it's that it was quite clear you had only one interest: you were deadly scared of being lynched yourself, which became obvious at some points during N2 and D3. You didn't try to really find scum, but rather hopped on whatever opportunity came along to ensure you yourself survived.

Town is not as scared of dying as scum (particularly a 1-man scumteam), so when the only reason for posting is to complain that someone else looks scummier and should be voted for, sets off alarm bells. That's more looking for a reason to vote someone, than looking for actual scum. Be careful with that.

But I reiterate, Onegu, you played an awesome scumgame, and were hit by quite a bit of bad luck, and some also excellent play by town JK.

I also haven't mentioned iVlosk! yet. While somewhat abrasive, there were two things instantly apparent in iVlosk's play: he was town, and he was setting himself up as town sheriff. While Xzavier was (needlessly) thrown to the wolves, in general iVlosk was good for town, and between him and fferyllt, it was very hard for any (let alone a 1-man) scumteam to get away with anything.

On June 16 2013 15:16 s0Lstice wrote:
xzav,

a good example of what to do as town when you are getting lynched is what Blazinghand did in Les Mafia: link

He still ended up getting lynched, but his last 24-36 hours are exactly what should be done. Your objective is to help the town as much as possible before you die. You win with town whether you are alive or dead, so your own survival takes a back seat to infodumping the thread with as much quality analysis as you can manage before you die.

That said, if you do this right, it's very possible town will reconsider your lynch. Your best weapon is being useful, and doing the gruntwork to provide solid analysis. Do this, and the rest should(!) take care of itself. It's possible that a derpy town will still lynch you despite doing everything right though ;D

In your specific case, you probably could have stopped your lynch by being more active. It was a close vote (one of the votes on you was Onegu, who was voting you for self preservation) It's much easier for the wagon to stay on track if you aren't there looking consistently not scummy.

On June 18 2013 18:48 Blazinghand wrote:
It's not about winning, it's about winning with style. Eccleston, for example, has style.

On June 18 2013 18:51 Blazinghand wrote:
omg valve plz stop matching me with low elo ppl

mmr so bad

I like first posts in games. While basing anything off small data sets is unreliable so is extracting information from noisy data sets.
Thus even though first post in games is a small amount of data it is "clean"

That is one of the whys that scum like to shit up a thread by making it loud and noisy and emotional.
If there is emotive crap flying around it is much more likely that the townies will mis-attribute the off/scummy behaviour to personal non game related reactions to the crap.

In first posts, the townies, come out of vacuum of knowledge, scum come out of the scum QT.
To me at that point the amount of difference in what the (scum vs town)players think they know is greatest.

At this point in the thread the thread acquires a dead baby seal. Everybody scum or not, playing or not, reacts to the seal.
I may be able to tell what kinds of human they are from their reactions, but after this point I don't get any more first post reads. Oh well.

On June 19 2013 03:01 fferyllt wrote:
I'm overextended in mafia games at MS at the moment, with 8 games in progress where I am still alive.