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On June 12 2013 21:11 Onegu wrote:
VOTE: UMASI
thats not the correct voting format, you might want to fix it or make it official using the ##'s
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On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.
So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.
Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)
thoughts?
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On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts? Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.
okay got it.
So its jailer/medic.
But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.
So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.
Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.
Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.
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On June 13 2013 10:24 fferyllt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts? TODAY IS DAY 3
EBWOP: I MEAN DAY4 LYNCH!!!
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On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote:
okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town
I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to.
But rationalize this question:
two things, actually:
A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and
B: Why have I not been lynched yet.
What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me?
A.you didnt draw the attention to yourself.
You simply didnt lurk.
B. we always had bigger lynch priorities.
I dont think thats a good enough reasoning. and i see a OMGUS in reaction instead of a defense.
also, you saying you dont know what your responding to? You should be either responding to somebodys pressure on you. or you should be making a case, or you should be discussing reads. or you should be prooving your innocence. right now you havnt done any of those. and the OMGUS makes me even more convinced right now that your panicking.
##VOTE Umasi
if thats the best you can do, its not enough for me.
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and some high ungodly wisdom that we are allowed to communicate during noob games had a discussion on mass claims with me, and i realize that its generally not beneficial in this format. So it would only be smart to come out if you KNOW your action stopped the night kill i believe, or if your a cop who just checked a scum(or miller, but then we can determine if its miller/scum)
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On June 13 2013 10:54 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts? Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer. okay got it. So its jailer/medic. But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win. So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now? I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time. and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person. 2 people have claimed to be jailed already have come forward if you are just looking for them we know the no kill came from iVlosK being jailed. Looking for the jailer looks really bad.
But couldnt in the same way, iVlosk claim to be jailed (but is really scum) and have that be the explination of why there was no kill. so he claims the KP was on him instead of him being unable to preform the kill??
This is why i think its a better idea, in other words. if the jailer comes out and says he held somebody else, do it and we win? or could it be that he is mindfucking gaming us and he didnt even put forth a KP at all? im not saying hes the scum, but im saying that he could have been roleblocked himself and claim that it saved him, instead of preventing him from shooting. Idk, this is my thoughts. Im not accusing him, but just making a statement that we cant take his claim to be 100% townie hes town all up in this town.
make sense?
of course, the above is almost certainly not applicable. as the jailer should have already come out and explained it, and then we kill him and win. (otherwise he is making this claim for bullshits and impeding the search for scum, which makes no sense)
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On June 13 2013 11:00 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts? Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer. okay got it. So its jailer/medic. But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win. So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now? I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time. and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person. When the jailer jails... he protects the target and acts as a roleblock on them. So if mafia and jailer target the same person, then there is no kill. Alternatively, if the jailer selects the scum killer, then he roleblocks and there is no kill. Another problem with your idea is that you are telling everyone. Scum can just no kill next night and make it look like scum was roleblocked. Not a very reliable strategy. As for iV...and this goes for everyone else voting firere D1... to say they are scum is to say that they bussed one of their own, even when another scum (yavanna) goes afk. The odds are more likely that scum voted for Gotard or another person.
why would you hold your kp, thats a HUGE risk with little reward, unless you were to claim vigi or something? which is still a massive risk.
Idk, my entire claiming idea is bad and you explained why its bad so im content with not bringing it up again.
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okay, so then if you had it in your vote to save Firere345 and your scum, and you could do it. why wouldnt you?
He doesnt flip then adn there so people wont know that you just saved the scum's life. so there isnt a downside other than you have to come up with an acceptable reason (which i gave many) to switch votes? of course you always would want to wait to vote as scum anyway.
I stil dont understand why if a could scum could be the deciding vote between a scumlynch and a mislynch, why he couldnt think of SOME
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reason to mislynch.
aparently i fat-fingered a key which posted the post before i was finished with it :O
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On June 13 2013 11:08 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 11:02 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 10:54 Onegu wrote:On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts? Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer. okay got it. So its jailer/medic. But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win. So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now? I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time. and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person. 2 people have claimed to be jailed already have come forward if you are just looking for them we know the no kill came from iVlosK being jailed. Looking for the jailer looks really bad. But couldnt in the same way, iVlosk claim to be jailed (but is really scum) and have that be the explination of why there was no kill. so he claims the KP was on him instead of him being unable to preform the kill?? This is why i think its a better idea, in other words. if the jailer comes out and says he held somebody else, do it and we win? or could it be that he is mindfucking gaming us and he didnt even put forth a KP at all? im not saying hes the scum, but im saying that he could have been roleblocked himself and claim that it saved him, instead of preventing him from shooting. Idk, this is my thoughts. Im not accusing him, but just making a statement that we cant take his claim to be 100% townie hes town all up in this town. make sense? of course, the above is almost certainly not applicable. as the jailer should have already come out and explained it, and then we kill him and win. (otherwise he is making this claim for bullshits and impeding the search for scum, which makes no sense) NO NO NO NO NO NO! Jailer is not coming out. End of story. Jailer could not tell us any additional information. In most my games I've played there is no notification of saves on people who are attacked. iVlosk says he was rolelbocked and no one counter claims so I believe it. Could he be scum shooting... sure, but right now it isn't likely. And if we have the jailer jail him again, all scum needs to do is not kill and then iVlosk gets mislynched.
kk got it, it makes sense, somebody else would have counterclaimed (which is what i was trying to say without remembering that word) And alright, jailer doesnt come out, that also makes sense. Because it shouldnt be the jailer who comes out, but somebody else counterclaiming that he was roleblocked.
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On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote:
As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.
I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.
If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.
This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.
Not
at
all
what im trying to say, is bussing Firere day1 doesnt make much sense to me, even if you got the town cred for leading the charge, i wouldnt risk it UNLESS they were afk, and he wasnt. sure he was lurking but it just doesnt make sense to me, ill take your advice and not count them as 100% town, but they are certainly farther up on my town list for voting him.
It just seems like a HORRIBLE scum play to buss him like that. Just to me, i can see the reason why you would do it, but it seems rather selfish and in the end you are lowering your chances to win (town/mafia ratio is even worse for you)
but i still am new to this so i wont die by my speculations and only by what i can see as facts.
I will concede my reasoning that all people who were on that wagon are town, but then the question comes up, why did iV suggest a lynch order to kill everybody who wasnt on that wagon? (After agreeing with what you just posted) that bothers me, not enough to change my vote. but its enough to keep me up at night.
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i believe i explicilitely asked people if what i was saying was a good or bad idea!!
this is my first game of forum mafia, im new to like fucking 15 different roles and still only have minimal understands of how they interact with the game, i wasnt pushing for him to come out, i was asking for other peoples ideas. go back and reread my post again, i wasnt calling for him to come out, or even pushing. i was thinking outloud. and now im very worried about you as well.
read the last two fucking lines of that post again, THE ABOVE IS CERTAINLY NOT APPLICABLE
i wasnt pushing for him to come out, i was thinking in the thread. something which i should clearly not do again because people will try to twist it in order to paint me as scum
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and in posts after i explained how i mixed up the counterclaim not coming from the jailer but from the other person who was thrown into jail.
Fucking who is more useful and contributed more actual thought and less chaos. Me or Umasi, Ask yourself that, and then ask why your voting for me right now?
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jailer coming out and somebody else claiming they were jailed were both to be understood, i realized i mistyped that and that i should have worded that better, but in the posts after that was made clear, but because i had a bad idea WHICH I ASKED TO BE TOLD IF IT WAS BAD, is not something to vote somebody for, you simply tell them that its bad and they drop it. now im really wondering how you missed those lines in my posts....
(yes in real life i talk without periods, i take one really big motherfucking breath than i spew words for 10 minutes straight until i have to pause to breath again)
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On June 13 2013 11:50 fferyllt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 11:46 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 13 2013 11:32 fferyllt wrote:
Extremely mixed.
I have been exploring a lot of paranoid possibilities today, and I can see a paranoid-as-fuck case for iV being scum. It's not the only paranoid case I'm mulling over. Whats the other case? Onegu
That would explain his misquoting me in attempt to fuel a bandwagon? (or abusing open thought)
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On June 13 2013 11:55 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts? Show nested quote +okay got it.So its jailer/medic.But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now?I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person. Saying a thought and maybe doesnt mean you arent pushing
seems like a pretty shitty way to push for something, i could think of alot better
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On June 13 2013 12:14 Onegu wrote:
Am I alone here? The reason this looks so bad to me is the only way I can see scum winning is killing the jailer.
Now whos fishing for some motherfucking agreement.
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see, thats literally what you just tried to do to me.
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okay, um, go hunt for evidence and ignore all the shit i did to try to help the town. you go do that.
I didnt say i wanted to lynch you because it would make the town more effective, i said that was my reasoning that if you flipped town i wouldnt feel as bad. I think your scum, but as the time flies by im thinking more and more that it might be onegu.
and good luck, try to find all the shit. And the go quote my post saying that it looked like yavanna was asking me to do all the work and that its suspicious. you go find that shit bro
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