[M][N] Les Mafia - Page 45

On May 19 2013 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whatevs, i'm off to bed. you should prolly talk about vayne's policies or some other shit like that, and waste 20 pages..

vote for scum, vote for iamp. if not, BH or the russian dude.

On May 19 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, here is the case, Goodkarma:

- Shitty case on Stutters with backpedalling without explanation.
- Contradicting himself on grush, REALLY BAD! STARSENSEESSSSSS!
- His meta comparsion on Jarjar is false.
- His meta comparsion on me is false.
- His stance on WoS is that Wos plays town "bad" and here he is bad, so he is scum. Bad =/= scum.

On May 19 2013 03:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GK:
- Do you know haw Jarjar plays? Did you explain why he is scum as he does what he does?
- About me. What games about me you have read?
- About grush. You say "So in other words, you will always be town when you say starsenses. And you haven't said starsenses this game. Further, you say you will try to counter you own meta from now on, meaning you weren't starting to as of this game..." Look at your argument. You are basically saying "you didn't claim STARSENSES, YOU ARE SCUM, BUT IF YOU DO, YOU ARE ALSO SCUM".

I don't need to tell you why you are wrong, you need to tell me why you are right. so quotes please. Make sure you quote me from my last (town) game where i said i'm working 12h/7d/week. And call me a lurker then.

On May 19 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:


Okay, this guy claimed scum.
##Unvote;
##Vote: iamperfection

ggyo

On May 19 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp, yamato, marm; i am involved, i am voting for iamp atm. he is calling one gut town and one guy null for same reasons. that is bullshit imo.

and marv. do not talk about martyring, you are the king of it. end of discussion.

On May 19 2013 03:34 WaveofShadow wrote:

You tempt me, good sir, but I dunno your cases don't seem....fleshed out enough? In your Gk case explain how the meta reads are false for example.
Also Dandel scumread? Interesting.

As far as marv goes I believe his explanation was that JJD has played his games and doesn't get a newbie pass to lurk the way he has? I agree with this to some extent but I also agree with what GK said that it seems more likely for JJD to come back and actually do something later in the game than sputnik who was satisfied to scum up the thread and then fuck off.

On May 19 2013 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
DP - I'm not so sure I like this WoS wagon anymore. What say you?

On May 19 2013 06:58 marvellosity wrote:
Wave - I hosted goodkarma's first (I think?) newbie game, number 24.

In this game, in the first 2 days, town had massive problems with consolidation, despite it being plurality lynch. Votes were spread all over the place. Only on day 3 did GK understand the value of consolidation (even in plurality). So that point doesn't ring true to me, just because I know goodkarma was taught a serious lesson about consolidation. You can go read his filter from there, or perhaps you could read my post-game analysis there where I touch on the same things.

On May 19 2013 07:09 iamperfection wrote:
This is my current thinking

1. Stutters695- very null I feel like im watching a rerun of a cartoon i have seen like 6 times. If he says yo im going to busy for the next 8 hours catch you later i will reach through the computer and bitch slap him

2. iamperfection- Innocent child

3. grush57- Starsenses- he can be vigged though the point that i had to drag it out of him makes sense. Plus he is useless anyways.

4. Blazinghand- Very null. May suffer from sudden amnesia. nothing he has done has shown me that oh shit bh clearly thinking deeply and clearly about the game. I have seen bh derp it up before as town but generally he is super involved even when he is derping it up and im just not getting that feel from him of his overall commitment to town

5. WaveofShadow- i dont know- He dosnt seem that scummy to me reading his filter. Activity is ok seems to care to me probally should have a town read on him

6. JarJarDrinks- summyish more like null though- Has been generally inactive. It was wierd when he was confused on what i meant earlier with him and bh. I dont know what to make of that

7. goodkarma- scum- It seems like to me he is going from easy target to easy target. I dont see much interaction with town it seems he is more interested in trying to justify why he is voting for some or why he is voting then actually trying to figure things out. has been not very active and if you look at the filter i dont see the interaction with town that i would think you would see from a town player. Focused on justification more than figuring it out it looks to me.

8. yamato77- null- want to know why he thinks gk is town because i dont see it.

9. s0Lstice-town for now- Since he dislikes sputnik and gk that seems good to me.

10. VayneAuthority- town- Seems to be making a spectacle of himself thats a townie trait. I ignore most of his posts though

11. sputnik.theory- Scum- THe only thing that bothers me is that he claim vt for good knows what reason which is confusing if he were to be scum. The rest of his filter is complete shit. List post general inactivity not hunting scum.

12. marvellosity-town Our mind meld when we posted the same exact thought about bh's point about jar jar makes me think he is town. Been generally active and seems to care. Probably should only be suspicious of him if i die over him. If that were to happen lean on him heavily for support to figure out the game. If he gets lazy stab him in the back.

13. Spicydinosaur-town Went against thread sentiment with his thoughts on grush would be weird to do that as scum with everyone against him. marv had a point to i guess you can use that lesser argument as well for evidence that he is town.

14. Dandel Ion -town- i Didn't think his shit fest with marv made him scum at all and all his posts in general seem to have been pretty reasonable to me.

15. DarthPunk- town- His pressure on wos seems sincere i also liked his quick answer to my pressure in the beginning. No reason to not think he is town at the moment.

16. raynpelikoneet-null- wants to kill gk and sputnik makes him ok in my book bad activity though

On May 19 2013 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:


Okay, this guy claimed scum.
##Unvote;
##Vote: iamperfection

ggyo

On May 19 2013 07:38 iamperfection wrote:
wathever if we have a vig rayn is good target he is speaking nonsense and nonsense is the number one target for vigs.

On May 19 2013 09:26 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm reading raynpelikoneet as a shitty town. He claimed that GK was scum and supported it with a number of points in a couple of posts. This may not be the best argument but at least he's supporting his position.





However he then goes off the rails with iamperfection after he gives his quick view of the group.






This seems more like a impulse child vote than anything throwing a hissy fit because he feels his play is on a different level. There is a clear difference in the mentality that went into the voting of GK and iamp. Seems very spammy for spammy sake.

On May 18 2013 14:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
--snip

Solstice: why do you feel better about voting GK than sputnik right now?

On May 18 2013 18:08 marvellosity wrote:


Reading the thread atm. I'd quite like to know where you're going with this, because it's an awfully passive-aggressive way of trying to put suspicion on me.

Your argument boils down to "marv was more polite than i expected" and you've managed to drag that out over numerous posts and paragraphs. You're also basically completely making up a narrative for a player who isn't you, and for a player you can't possibly understand. What gives?