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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:34 GMT
#441
Like, seriously. We have 2 scenarios:

1) blazing makes a shitload of effort to look at iamp's meta, having played with iamp before
2) blazing makes no effort to look at iamp's meta, despite having played with iamp's meta before

i'm liking the difference between 1 and 2 right now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:35 GMT
#442
i'm voting for blazing. his stutters case is totally underwhelming.

##vote: blazinghand
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 17 2013 23:36 GMT
#443
On May 18 2013 08:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:29 iamperfection wrote:
so you dont remember this?
On November 21 2012 08:08 Blazinghand wrote:
So I'm dropping a made meta read on Iamp for his scum play in GSL Mini III and his town play in Liquid City.

Iamperfections' meta as scum is lurking and big gaps between small posts, besides defending himself. As Town he tends to flood with smaller posts but he's always in the thread and interacting with people. Bearing in mind GSL Mini III is an unusually extreme version of Iamperf's meta, it's still indicative-- in fact, Hapa catches him as scum that game based on meta with extreme ease (link).

In this game Iamperfection is doing his typical "bury them in a mountain of posts!" style town play. He has periods of 2-3 hours where he'll post like 10 times, then he'll go away for ~8 hours then come back and do the same. This is how he plays as town.

n terms of associative tells, he interacts with Hapa in a natural way that doesn't seem like they're scum together. I also like this read he makes on kickstart early on (link) that as scum he wouldn't want to. His suspicions of Hapa (link) tie in well with his willingness to last-minute votehop (link).

Although he does defend crossfire here (link) I view that as more a point in his favor than against him, as Crossfire was a liability for the scumteam and was inevitably gonna be lynched. In particular his interaction with marv here (link) and his attempts to get crossfire to play the damn game here (link) and here (link) make it seem like he really genuinely think crossfire is town.

Basically I don't see scum making a post like this: (link) or like this: (link). This is all consistent with a legitimate town-read on cross, which, given the scenario, is a bad move as scum. Cross WAS going to flip eventually and bussing him was optimal scum play.



I'm liking this a lot. Just sayin'


having read that, I now remember it! It didn't come to mind previously though.

"I'm fox!"

lolololololol
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 17 2013 23:37 GMT
#444
On May 18 2013 08:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm voting for blazing. his stutters case is totally underwhelming.

##vote: blazinghand


Which point don't you like in the stutters case?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
May 17 2013 23:37 GMT
#445
blazinghand does have a point about jar jar he looks kind of tera bad
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:37 GMT
#446
blazing, i kinda feel ok about a Jarjar vote instead. how does that feel?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 17 2013 23:38 GMT
#447
On May 18 2013 08:34 marvellosity wrote:
Like, seriously. We have 2 scenarios:

1) blazing makes a shitload of effort to look at iamp's meta, having played with iamp before
2) blazing makes no effort to look at iamp's meta, despite having played with iamp's meta before

i'm liking the difference between 1 and 2 right now


dude I legit forgot, and fwiw I just voted him because he was being a douchebag. Given that you literally just went through this same thing like minutes ago I don't see how you're not aware of this. Once you brought up his meta, i did unvote him you know
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:38 GMT
#448
On May 18 2013 08:37 iamperfection wrote:
blazinghand does have a point about jar jar he looks kind of tera bad


agreed, the biggest issue is that blazing is voting stutters, and not jarjar. do you see what i'm saying?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 17 2013 23:38 GMT
#449
On May 18 2013 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
blazing, i kinda feel ok about a Jarjar vote instead. how does that feel?


if a stutters lynch isn't happening, jarjar is acceptable. that being said, I'd much prefer stutters. What do you think of his post about VA? Isn't that like a pretty scum-motivated move?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
May 17 2013 23:39 GMT
#450
On May 18 2013 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
blazing, i kinda feel ok about a Jarjar vote instead. how does that feel?

On May 18 2013 08:37 iamperfection wrote:
blazinghand does have a point about jar jar he looks kind of tera bad


I feel very good about a town marv now this has happened before.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:39 GMT
#451
Let's put it this way Blazing. Stutters is always a useless pile of shit. literally always.

i've seen you in recent games say "if you can't support this case with meta, your case sucks".

can you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 17 2013 23:40 GMT
#452
On May 18 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
Let's put it this way Blazing. Stutters is always a useless pile of shit. literally always.

i've seen you in recent games say "if you can't support this case with meta, your case sucks".

can you?


if he's a kushm4sta, then my case on him isn't valid. I'll go dive some meta then.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:40 GMT
#453
On May 18 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
blazing, i kinda feel ok about a Jarjar vote instead. how does that feel?

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:37 iamperfection wrote:
blazinghand does have a point about jar jar he looks kind of tera bad


I feel very good about a town marv now this has happened before.


and i feel very good about you saying this. can we have sex now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
May 17 2013 23:41 GMT
#454
On May 18 2013 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:37 marvellosity wrote:
blazing, i kinda feel ok about a Jarjar vote instead. how does that feel?

On May 18 2013 08:37 iamperfection wrote:
blazinghand does have a point about jar jar he looks kind of tera bad


I feel very good about a town marv now this has happened before.


and i feel very good about you saying this. can we have sex now?

i dont want to risk our friendship
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:42 GMT
#455
On May 18 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
Let's put it this way Blazing. Stutters is always a useless pile of shit. literally always.

i've seen you in recent games say "if you can't support this case with meta, your case sucks".

can you?


if he's a kushm4sta, then my case on him isn't valid. I'll go dive some meta then.


I don't like this, Blazing. i'm not going to shout at you, because I don't feel it's... productive.

I know you're "up" on the TL scene to know enough that Stutters is generally an extremely lurky mofo. he has played 10 town games or so and always been lurky/useless in all of them. I don't like how much you generally like meta and how little you're willing to look into Stutters' meta.

Do you understand my concerns?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 17 2013 23:43 GMT
#456
On May 18 2013 08:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
Let's put it this way Blazing. Stutters is always a useless pile of shit. literally always.

i've seen you in recent games say "if you can't support this case with meta, your case sucks".

can you?


if he's a kushm4sta, then my case on him isn't valid. I'll go dive some meta then.


I don't like this, Blazing. i'm not going to shout at you, because I don't feel it's... productive.

I know you're "up" on the TL scene to know enough that Stutters is generally an extremely lurky mofo. he has played 10 town games or so and always been lurky/useless in all of them. I don't like how much you generally like meta and how little you're willing to look into Stutters' meta.

Do you understand my concerns?


no given that I just said I'll look into his meta

what is it with people just expecting me to pull meta cases out of my ass constantly
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25555 Posts
May 17 2013 23:43 GMT
#457
and by "people" i mean "marv"

and by "constantly" i mean "today"
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:44 GMT
#458
I HAVE REALLY EXPECTATIONS OF YOU BECAUSE I RESPECT YOUR PLAY OK
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 17 2013 23:44 GMT
#459
*high

:/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
May 17 2013 23:45 GMT
#460
On May 18 2013 08:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 08:42 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:40 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 18 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
Let's put it this way Blazing. Stutters is always a useless pile of shit. literally always.

i've seen you in recent games say "if you can't support this case with meta, your case sucks".

can you?


if he's a kushm4sta, then my case on him isn't valid. I'll go dive some meta then.


I don't like this, Blazing. i'm not going to shout at you, because I don't feel it's... productive.

I know you're "up" on the TL scene to know enough that Stutters is generally an extremely lurky mofo. he has played 10 town games or so and always been lurky/useless in all of them. I don't like how much you generally like meta and how little you're willing to look into Stutters' meta.

Do you understand my concerns?


no given that I just said I'll look into his meta

what is it with people just expecting me to pull meta cases out of my ass constantly

well it gives an impression that you half assing your cases which i would think would be more likely from a scum bh.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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